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Steve...a question?

hypocritexposer

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Is it true that Dmitry Yarosh has called on the help of terrorist Doku Umarov, in his party's fight against the Russians

Doku Umarov is the senior leader and military commander of the North Caucasus-based Caucasus Emirate (CE) group. CE’s stated goal is to establish an Islamic emirate through violence in the North Caucasus, southern Russia, and the Volga region, with Umarov as its Emir
http://www.nctc.gov/site/profiles/umarov.html
 

Steve

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like all the others that is a lie

Ukraine: “Right Sector” Leader Dmitry Yarosh Meets with Israeli Ambassador, Pledges Allegiance to the Jewish Race

“Right Sector” leader Dmitry Yarosh meets with Israeli ambassador and pledges allegiance to the Jewish race while Yulia Tymoshenko (a Jew) has joined with Vitali Klitschko, the Jew boxer against the elected government of Ukraine. Nationalist activists remain supportive of the coup even after it was discovered that Vitali Klitschko, the most prominent leader of Maidan, is a Jew, that the American Jew Victoria Nuland was playing a role in planning the operation and said the US Govt had ''invested'' USD5Billion into Ukraine, and that IDF agents were responsible for managing much of the terrorism against the elected government of the Ukraine.

not everything you find on the internet is true..

you have to verify it..

think about this..
The family of Yulia Tymoshenko, a Ukrainian politician and former Prime Minister of Ukraine, is made up of people of Ukrainian, Latvian and possibly Russian and Jewish

During Ukrainian elections, it was claimed that Tymoshenko (and other candidates like Arseniy Yatsenyuk) were Jewish
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_of_Yulia_Tymoshenko

things are not always as the Russians present them...


http://www.policymic.com/articles/84085/was-this-handsome-pro-russian-protester-planted-by-putin

On Saturday, Russian media emphasized the news that Dmitry Yarosh (pictured above), a Ukrainian far-right leader, had supposedly appealed to Islamist terrorists in Chechnya for assistance in Ukraine. Reporters say the appeal came from Right Sector's page on Vkontakte, a social media website akin to Facebook, and was made to Doka Umarov, Russia's most wanted terrorist.

But according to Right Sector, their website was hacked and the Umarov appeal is a fake: “Our webpage was blocked for half an hour. Now our webpage does not contain that news [about Umarov]. The genuine news of the group is that which is currently published,” the press secretary emphasized. The group insists it has not been in contact with terrorists.

Despite the Russian government's best efforts, the international media has barely picked up on the Umarov story. In fact, while the Guardian briefly referenced a Russia Today article about Umarov in their live coverage,they also noted the screengrab evidence provided by the Russian media was "unconvincing."

I recently spoke to Anton Shekhovstov, an expert on radical right-wing parties in Europe, who told me that he believed the Vkontakte hack was the work of Russians: "If Yarosh wanted to contact Doku Umarov," I asked, "why would he do it publicly?”

“Their account on the Russian VK (Vkontakte) social networking page has been hacked, and someone has posted that fake message to Umarov,” he replied.

you can believe what you want,.. but the Russians are master at propaganda.. when it comes to their Propaganda.. even I would not play chess with them..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Oh their website was hacked, that explains all their past actions and violent videos.

:roll:

The Russians must have planted those videos too.

Why is it so hard to believe that their are violent fascists still in existence?

Is it not dangerous to forget history and how Fascists originally gained ground in the 30-40s?

There were many then that denied their existence too.
 

Steve

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http://www.policymic.com/articles/84085/was-this-handsome-pro-russian-protester-planted-by-putin

no point debating ,.. you are wrong..
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Steve said:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/84085/was-this-handsome-pro-russian-protester-planted-by-putin

no point debating ,.. you are wrong..

yes, because if one item is Russian propaganda, that means all are.

Even if the EU was warning about the group. And the Ukrainian oppostition was intimidated by them.
 

Steve

Well-known member
hypocritexposer said:
Steve said:
http://www.policymic.com/articles/84085/was-this-handsome-pro-russian-protester-planted-by-putin

no point debating ,.. you are wrong..

yes, because if one item is Russian propaganda, that means all are.

Even if the EU was warning about the group. And the Ukrainian oppostition was intimidated by them.

how many times do I have to debunk the same lie you keep reposting..

look through the threads.. you will see where I found credible source and debunked EVERY ONE of you claims..

if you can find ONE that I haven't debunked. start a tread and I will look at it.. but so far I have ripped every piece of litter you have posted to shreds..

I answered your question.. but for the sake of showing how wrong you are..

here is the answer again

IT IS a LIE it is a fabricated story..

here is the link to the proof..

http://ranchers.net/forum/posting.php?mode=quote&p=645953
 

iwannabeacowboy

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I wouldn't want to step in between a good fight, and I'm a little ignorant to the entirety of the Ukrainian situation. However, not long ago, I found the following quote:

Synagogues and Jewish schools and cemeteries throughout Europe are being burned, vandalized, or otherwise desecrated in ever-increasing numbers. Jews are being verbally and physically assaulted throughout Europe. Rockwell Schnabel, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, said at a dinner of the American Jewish Committee in Brussels in 2004 that anti-Semitism in Europe "is as bad as it was in the 1930s."3 European polls increasingly show antagonism toward Israel and Israeli policies. In November 2003, a majority of Europeans actually named Israel as the greatest threat to world peace, ahead of Iran and North Korea.4

I don't find it hard to believe that a people might not stray far from their recent past.

In addition, with all the black ops, CIA/KGB and economic games being played, we will likely never know the truth. And the question comes down to who do you believe? I would normally side with the western view, as more often than not, it has contained a higher degree of openness at least in my view. But with our current administration being know for how many Pinocchio's it's latest statement was rated?????? What???? And it's NSA lies..... How are you to take anything they say with an ounce of certainty. This is what you get when the President of the US cries wolf to many times. A world wide debacle that is sure to have some type of ill effect.
 

Steve

Well-known member
iwannabeacowboy said:
. How are you to take anything they say with an ounce of certainty.

I try to look for multiple sources.. ones that quote facts.. not who said what

and I find most of what is out there is false..

the Ukraine situation is by far the most complex.. and has by far the most misinformation..


and we have an idiot for a president..
 

Steve

Well-known member
iwannabeacowboy said:
I wouldn't want to step in between a good fight, and I'm a little ignorant to the entirety of the Ukrainian situation. However, not long ago, I found the following quote:

Synagogues and Jewish schools and cemeteries throughout Europe are being burned, vandalized, or otherwise desecrated in ever-increasing numbers. Jews are being verbally and physically assaulted throughout Europe. Rockwell Schnabel, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, said at a dinner of the American Jewish Committee in Brussels in 2004 that anti-Semitism in Europe "is as bad as it was in the 1930s."3 European polls increasingly show antagonism toward Israel and Israeli policies. In November 2003, a majority of Europeans actually named Israel as the greatest threat to world peace, ahead of Iran and North Korea.4

I don't find it hard to believe that a people might not stray far from their recent past.

In addition, with all the black ops, CIA/KGB and economic games being played, we will likely never know the truth. And the question comes down to who do you believe? I would normally side with the western view, as more often than not, it has contained a higher degree of openness at least in my view. But with our current administration being know for how many Pinocchio's it's latest statement was rated?????? What???? And it's NSA lies..... How are you to take anything they say with an ounce of certainty. This is what you get when the President of the US cries wolf to many times. A world wide debacle that is sure to have some type of ill effect.

I was over in Europe not long back.. my wife is over there now..

their unemployment situation is worse then ours.. and the EU has allowed workers to come in and take jobs.. similar to our illegals.. only they are legal.. sort of.. and they get welfare.. because of EU rules..

for instance.. Scotland has always had Indians, Pakistanis and Chinese immigrants. but now they are flooded with Poles..


the actuality is they are flooded with migrants from the breakaways.. the Polish are just the most noticeable..

this is causing hatred.. reality is "crap may hit the fan"...

there is a legal referendum on Scotland breaking away from the UK..

but all this is nothing compared to the muslim problem they now have..

they are to PC to say it.. but that isn't helping.. and would account for alot of the attacks. (not all but alot)

beyond that their worldview is very liberal in the established countries..
France Germany Finland ect.. so they don't care about Israels fate anymore then our liberals do.

While the breakaways.. are old world.. and locked in time and bitterness..
and a bit more complex..

we have alot of immigrants in this area from over there.. so you get a unique perspective.. some on who hates who.. ect..

and they have plenty of bitterness to go around.. add that to hard times.. and it gets ugly fast..
 
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