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Stimulus Bill Losing Support......Fast

Mike

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Stimulus Package Losing Support (?)
Strata Sphere ^ | Jan 29 2009 1:11 pm | AJStrata



It seems the House passed bill on ’stimulus’ is not going to survive the Senate. First off, no Republicans (rightfully) voted for it and 11 Democrats joined them. Now Rassmussen is showing that support and opposition for the bill is now equalized:

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation’s likely voters now support the president’s plan, … The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it …

Only a week ago support was around 68%.

3% points is statistically a tie. The fact is Obama and the Dems have promised to fix the economy, but this bill doesn’t do anything for months and years from now. Smart politicians know America has no patience or understanding about how government works and how long things take to get done. So when the economy stubbornly remains bleak it will be the Dems and their false-hope promises who will be on the hook for the failure of DC.

I look forward to the GOP pushing hard on this bill, to the point it could just die. Which is the best path forward, unless Democrats plan to unshackle private industry and individuals with tax cuts and deregulation. Since that is not going to happen, it is best DC do no more harm.
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Stimulus Package Losing Support (?)
Strata Sphere ^ | Jan 29 2009 1:11 pm | AJStrata



It seems the House passed bill on ’stimulus’ is not going to survive the Senate. First off, no Republicans (rightfully) voted for it and 11 Democrats joined them. Now Rassmussen is showing that support and opposition for the bill is now equalized:

Forty-two percent (42%) of the nation’s likely voters now support the president’s plan, … The latest Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey shows that 39% are opposed to it …

Only a week ago support was around 68%.

3% points is statistically a tie. The fact is Obama and the Dems have promised to fix the economy, but this bill doesn’t do anything for months and years from now. Smart politicians know America has no patience or understanding about how government works and how long things take to get done. So when the economy stubbornly remains bleak it will be the Dems and their false-hope promises who will be on the hook for the failure of DC.

I look forward to the GOP pushing hard on this bill, to the point it could just die. Which is the best path forward, unless Democrats plan to unshackle private industry and individuals with tax cuts and deregulation. Since that is not going to happen, it is best DC do no more harm.

Obama's been in Government for a week, this is his first big plan and it has dropped in the polls from 68% to 42% in a week because the voters got to see the PORK Pelosi and her buddies stuff in the back door.

But But just vote for it and forget looking at the details. :roll:
 

Steve

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American support for the Obama plan dies as they see what it actually is.. one big far left policy statement.

very little in actual "brick and mortar" and heavy on far left liberal programs it was bound to fail.

with even the across the board programs that both sides support such as tax breaks for small business and unemployment insurance get little out of the Obama far left policy bill...

so as it comes to the light of day... support dwindles...

as I said before if it was a infrastucture bill, it would get support even without the "tax cuts" but one read shows it for what it is.. a far left liberal waste of scarce resources...

but then the dems control both houses.. and Obama doesn't need the republican support anyways... so Obama can push his agenda all by himself.. :roll: :roll: :wink:
 

Cal

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Obama's been in Government for a week, this is his first big plan and it has dropped in the polls from 68% to 42% in a week because the voters got to see the PORK Pelosi and her buddies stuff in the back door.

The thought of Pelosi stuffing pork in her back door is.....gross.
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hypocritexposer

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Another "stimulus" secret is that some $252 billion is for income-transfer payments -- that is, not investments that arguably help everyone, but cash or benefits to individuals for doing nothing at all. There's $81 billion for Medicaid, $36 billion for expanded unemployment benefits, $20 billion for food stamps, and $83 billion for the earned income credit for people who don't pay income tax. While some of that may be justified to help poorer Americans ride out the recession, they aren't job creators.
 
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Anonymous

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Oh- it will pass...Even many of the Repubs voting against it, know it is needed....
But now by bouncing it back and forth- and putting it into a committee of both Houses-- each gets to stick more of their pork into it to bring home to their local constituents... :roll: Just like they did with the Bush Bailout Bill....

Whenever these "must pass" bills gets held up or stalled- its the taxpayers that take it in the shorts...
 

hypocritexposer

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OT, what part of it is needed?

Even the welfare and unemployment parts will not do anything to jumpstart the economy. If prices go down those people unlucky enough not to have jobs will have more disposable income.

The only way out of this, is to cut the pork out of our personal lives, and the governments!
 

Tam

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I heard last night that the smaller banks that were to start getting the next bail out money, some of them are rejecting it. They figure there are to many strings attached and they are scared the government just wants to take them over and own them. So just how much is really needed if banks are now backing away from the bail out money? :?
 
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Anonymous

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hypocritexposer said:
OT, what part of it is needed?

Even the welfare and unemployment parts will not do anything to jumpstart the economy. If prices go down those people unlucky enough not to have jobs will have more disposable income.

The only way out of this, is to cut the pork out of our personal lives, and the governments!

The "fiscal conservatives" :roll: have been in control of Congress 12 of the last 14 years- and the White House for 8 years giving them 6 years of total control of D.C.--- and look where it got us :???:

We ended up with the biggest bureaucracy, biggest national debt, biggest deficit in the budget, and they could have led us on the road to the biggest recession/depression we've ever seen...

And we still had Pork-- like Bridges to Nowhere- which was connected by Sister Sarahs "Road to Nowhere" that was constructed even after they found out it would lead nowhere :roll: ...

Now the Dems are in charge- and they have their pet projects- their pork...
I don't like pork projects- but at least this spending is directed toward Americans- and the US needs- not all thrown into some kitty box half way around the world....

The only thing that can stop Pork- is a line item veto-- but if I remember right one of last years Presidential candidates- Gagliano- got that ruled Unconstitutional.... Remember what Party he ran on :???:
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
The "fiscal conservatives" :roll: have been in control of Congress 12 of the last 14 years- and the White House for 8 years giving them 6 years of total control of D.C.--- and look where it got us :???:

We ended up with the biggest bureaucracy, biggest national debt, biggest deficit in the budget,

You prove your own statement wrong within itself.

Fiscal Conservatives were not in charge, if they were there would not have been such a growth in bureaucracy, national debt or such a big deficit in the budget.

There is a difference in Conservative and Republican. Bush was a liberal Republican as is McCain. Don't try to turn Conservative into a bad word like Liberal has became!

And you well know that having a small majority in Congress really means not that much. All it does is give people like you a chance to play the blame game.
 
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aplusmnt said:
Oldtimer said:
The "fiscal conservatives" :roll: have been in control of Congress 12 of the last 14 years- and the White House for 8 years giving them 6 years of total control of D.C.--- and look where it got us :???:

We ended up with the biggest bureaucracy, biggest national debt, biggest deficit in the budget,

You prove your own statement wrong within itself.

Fiscal Conservatives were not in charge, if they were there would not have been such a growth in bureaucracy, national debt or such a big deficit in the budget.

There is a difference in Conservative and Republican. Bush was a liberal Republican as is McCain. Don't try to turn Conservative into a bad word like Liberal has became!

And you well know that having a small majority in Congress really means not that much. All it does is give people like you a chance to play the blame game.

Well thats what many of them portrayed themselves as-- and the same ones are portraying themselves as the same now :roll: But it sure has made for some good laughs :wink: :lol: Sadly made the Republican party into a joke......

Bush was a neocon- and he surrounded himself with neocons...As far as the rest of the rubberstamp Repub Congressmen- I don't know if there is a name for them except "spineless"....

Actually the only fiscal conservatives I've seen of late have been some of the Bluedog Dems....
 

Mike

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Actually the only fiscal conservatives I've seen of late have been some of the Bluedog Dems....

You mean the ones who vote(d) along with the Repubs on the Stimulus Bill? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Steve

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OT
The only thing that can stop Pork- is a line item veto-- but if I remember right one of last years Presidential candidates- Gagliano- got that ruled Unconstitutional.... Remember what Party he ran on

and dispite the media push for him, that fact made his support among conservatives dwindle..
 
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