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SCOTUS opens same-sex marriage in several states

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 10/6/14 10:10 AM EDT Updated: 10/6/14 10:54 AM EDT



The Supreme Court has turned down all seven pending petitions urging the court to decide whether there is a right to same-sex marriage under the U.S. Constitution.

The justices’ action, announced without comment by the court Monday morning, appears to clear the way for same-sex marriages in at least five states in short order. A series of other states could also see the practice quickly legalized under appeals court rulings already handed down.



The justices turned aside petitions challenging appellate decisions that overturned same-sex marriage bans in Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The decision surprised many analysts because the justices had twice stepped in — in Utah and Virginia — to halt same-sex marriages in those states after lower court rulings found gay marriage bans unconstitutional.

Now, those stays will be swept aside, with those decisions likely to kick in within a matter of days.

“I think this is a terrific result, for now,” said Richard Socarides, a gay-rights advocate and former adviser to President Bill Clinton. “It’s a little bit incremental, but I think it’s fantastic result and we should celebrate today.”

Conservatives were puzzled and disappointed by the outcome, since it takes only four justices to grant review of a case and the four most conservative justices last year dissented from the court’s decision striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act as violating the rights of gays and lesbians.



”The Court’s denial of review in all the pending cases strikes me as grossly irresponsible, as a huge abdication of duty on the part of at least six justices,” Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center wrote on National Review online.

The action was announced shortly before the justices convened Monday morning for the first session of the Supreme Court’s new term.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/gay-marriage-supreme-court-111626.html#ixzz3FNarlw9k

While the decision is the one I've long believed the court would give-- the way they went about it kind of surprises me...
Actually authorizing same sex marriage without issuing an opinion... Kind of goes along with a Do Nothing Congress that doesn't want to take a vote because it locks them into a position....
Apparently there were a majority of SCOTUS that could see the laws were blatently unconstitutional- and by doing this they didn't have to go on record with a vote ... :wink:
 

Mike

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Divorce attorneys are rejoicing.

”The Court’s denial of review in all the pending cases strikes me as grossly irresponsible, as a huge abdication of duty on the part of at least six justices,” Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center wrote on National Review online
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
[Actually authorizing same sex marriage without issuing an opinion... Kind of goes along with a Do Nothing Congress that doesn't want to take a vote because it locks them into a position....

Do-nothing president, do-nothing congress, do-nothing supremes, do-nothing to control the borders. See a pattern here fatman?
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
SCOTUS opens same-sex marriage in several states

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 10/6/14 10:10 AM EDT Updated: 10/6/14 10:54 AM EDT



The Supreme Court has turned down all seven pending petitions urging the court to decide whether there is a right to same-sex marriage under the U.S. Constitution.

The justices’ action, announced without comment by the court Monday morning, appears to clear the way for same-sex marriages in at least five states in short order. A series of other states could also see the practice quickly legalized under appeals court rulings already handed down.



The justices turned aside petitions challenging appellate decisions that overturned same-sex marriage bans in Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The decision surprised many analysts because the justices had twice stepped in — in Utah and Virginia — to halt same-sex marriages in those states after lower court rulings found gay marriage bans unconstitutional.

Now, those stays will be swept aside, with those decisions likely to kick in within a matter of days.

“I think this is a terrific result, for now,” said Richard Socarides, a gay-rights advocate and former adviser to President Bill Clinton. “It’s a little bit incremental, but I think it’s fantastic result and we should celebrate today.”

Conservatives were puzzled and disappointed by the outcome, since it takes only four justices to grant review of a case and the four most conservative justices last year dissented from the court’s decision striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act as violating the rights of gays and lesbians.



”The Court’s denial of review in all the pending cases strikes me as grossly irresponsible, as a huge abdication of duty on the part of at least six justices,” Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center wrote on National Review online.

The action was announced shortly before the justices convened Monday morning for the first session of the Supreme Court’s new term.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/gay-marriage-supreme-court-111626.html#ixzz3FNarlw9k

While the decision is the one I've long believed the court would give-- the way they went about it kind of surprises me...
Actually authorizing same sex marriage without issuing an opinion... Kind of goes along with a Do Nothing Congress that doesn't want to take a vote because it locks them into a position....
Apparently there were a majority of SCOTUS that could see the laws were blatently unconstitutional- and by doing this they didn't have to go on record with a vote ... :wink:

The more this country falls apart and lowers its standards, the more Oldtimer chortles with glee. :x
 

loomixguy

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When the Muslim's knife is at his throat, ready to cut his head away from his bloated body, then he might finally realize he f'd up when he gave up conservatism.


But he's probably too far gone for even that. :roll:
 

Whitewing

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loomixguy said:
When the Muslim's knife is at his throat, ready to cut his head away from his bloated body, then he might finally realize he f'd up when he gave up conservatism.


But he's probably too far gone for even that. :roll:

Gave up conservatism? I seriously doubt he was ever conservative. Most conservatives are too smart to ever fall for liberal foolishness.
 

loomixguy

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It's not that much of a stretch, for the weak minded.....

If he was as dumb when he was young as he is now, his parents would have drowned him as a youngster.
 
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Borowitz Report
June 26, 2013
Scalia Arrested Trying to Burn Down Supreme Court

By Andy Borowitz



WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In a shocking end to an illustrious legal career, police arrested Justice Antonin Scalia today as he attempted to set the Supreme Court building ablaze.

Justice Scalia, who had seemed calm and composed during the announcement of two major rulings this morning, was spotted by police minutes later outside the building, carrying a book of matches and a gallon of kerosene.

After police nabbed Justice Scalia and placed him in handcuffs, the Juror appeared “at peace and resigned to his fate,” a police spokesman said.

“He went quietly,” the spokesman said. “He just muttered something like, ‘I don’t want to live in a world like this.’ ”

Back at the Supreme Court, Justice Scalia’s colleagues said they hoped he would get the help he needed, except for Justice Clarence Thomas, who said nothing.
 
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Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
SCOTUS opens same-sex marriage in several states

By JOSH GERSTEIN | 10/6/14 10:10 AM EDT Updated: 10/6/14 10:54 AM EDT



The Supreme Court has turned down all seven pending petitions urging the court to decide whether there is a right to same-sex marriage under the U.S. Constitution.

The justices’ action, announced without comment by the court Monday morning, appears to clear the way for same-sex marriages in at least five states in short order. A series of other states could also see the practice quickly legalized under appeals court rulings already handed down.



The justices turned aside petitions challenging appellate decisions that overturned same-sex marriage bans in Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah, Virginia and Wisconsin.

The decision surprised many analysts because the justices had twice stepped in — in Utah and Virginia — to halt same-sex marriages in those states after lower court rulings found gay marriage bans unconstitutional.

Now, those stays will be swept aside, with those decisions likely to kick in within a matter of days.

“I think this is a terrific result, for now,” said Richard Socarides, a gay-rights advocate and former adviser to President Bill Clinton. “It’s a little bit incremental, but I think it’s fantastic result and we should celebrate today.”

Conservatives were puzzled and disappointed by the outcome, since it takes only four justices to grant review of a case and the four most conservative justices last year dissented from the court’s decision striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act as violating the rights of gays and lesbians.



”The Court’s denial of review in all the pending cases strikes me as grossly irresponsible, as a huge abdication of duty on the part of at least six justices,” Ed Whelan of the Ethics and Public Policy Center wrote on National Review online.

The action was announced shortly before the justices convened Monday morning for the first session of the Supreme Court’s new term.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/gay-marriage-supreme-court-111626.html#ixzz3FNarlw9k

While the decision is the one I've long believed the court would give-- the way they went about it kind of surprises me...
Actually authorizing same sex marriage without issuing an opinion... Kind of goes along with a Do Nothing Congress that doesn't want to take a vote because it locks them into a position....
Apparently there were a majority of SCOTUS that could see the laws were blatently unconstitutional- and by doing this they didn't have to go on record with a vote ... :wink:

The more this country falls apart and lowers its standards, the more Oldtimer chortles with glee. :x


Not chortling Soap - but glad to see that our Constitution still matters ... As I said dozens of times- this is the ruling I believed would happen if the court followed the Constitution... Once the governments stuck their noses into marriage- marriage fell under the jurisdiction of the courts and therefore the Constitution...Especially when government tied over 1,000 economic and property laws/benefits to marriage...

And then in 1996 when they passed the DOMA- it was a slap in the face to true followers of the Constitution... If they had been serious about stopping homosexual marriage at that time- they should have passed a Constitutional Amendment...

I guess the only excitement I get out of the ruling is the fact of "I Told You So"-- and that I was right about how the courts would have to interpret the issue if they were going to truly follow the Constitution and the equal protection clause, which says that the government cannot discriminate on gender (among other things) unless there is a rational basis.... This was the same argument used in Loving v. Virginia which was about interracial marriage, and has been used to strike down gay marriage bans in several states...
 

ranch hand

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I for one get tired of you THINKING you told us so. You are against morals that made this country great and all for tearing it down like your hero obama . I don't know who in the republican party pissed you off, but they sure did a good job. You are a laughing matter up in your part of Montana. :(
 

Whitewing

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ranch hand said:
I for one get tired of you THINKING you told us so. You are against morals that made this country great and all for tearing it down like your hero obama . I don't know who in the republican party p****d you off, but they sure did a good job. You are a laughing matter up in your part of Montana. :(

NOBODY in the republican party pissed him off. He's not a conservative, and has never been a conservative, and don't let him bullshit you into believing so.

On most politcal issues, at best he's an opportunist who will side with whomever he believes is in the majority because he's got some weird fear and sense of insecurity about being in the minority. And as has been demonstrated here hundreds of times, his 'principles' are as malleable as clay.

Because of his lack of principles, he's untrustworthy, and likely considered a friend by very few.
 

Traveler

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My turn to make a prediction. The more men that are married and are legally on par to adopt newborns and older children, the more sexual abuse will take place in those homes. Much of it probably won't be revealed until the victims are nearly grown. Congratulations to all sick fcks who are celebrating this.
 
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The court released no vote count Monday and no justice publicly dissented. But some experts on both sides of the ideological divide immediately suspected that Chief Justice John Roberts had broken with conservative colleagues more eager to try to stop the flurry of rulings favoring same-sex marriage rights by accepting one of the petitions. Four votes are needed for the justices to take a case.

“I think it would be in character for Roberts to do this. Look at the ridiculous decision he handed down in Obamacare,” Eastman said, referring to the deciding vote Roberts cast finding the Affordable Care Act’s individual mandate constitutional.

“I find it hard to believe Thomas, Alito and Scalia wouldn’t vote to take it,” Eastman said of the same-sex marriage issue. “The only thing that makes sense is Roberts didn’t vote to grant certiorari and the other justices were happy to allow this thing to be decided by default.”

It’s possible conservatives decided to duck the pending cases because they were confident they would come up short. Justice Anthony Kennedy has emerged as one of the strongest supporters of gay rights on the court. He authored the decision last year striking down the federal Defense of Marriage Act and was expected to again side with the court’s four liberal justices if the issue of a constitutional right to same-sex marriage came before the body.

By deciding not to wade into any of the recent batch of cases, the conservative justices may be thinking they could prevail if the court’s composition changes under a future president. Or one of the justices — perhaps a chief justice with an eye on his legacy — may have simply not wanted another battle royale over same-sex marriage with the conservatives on the losing end.

“I think they see the writing on the wall,” said one attorney who asked not be named because he’s involved in litigation backing same-sex marriage rights. “Rather than kind of torture themselves, they have decided to just let things play out.”

“The conservatives must know that if they grant [review], they will not be able to get five votes,” the advocate said. “They must know Justice Kennedy is just not gettable on these issues.”

In theory, the high court could return to the issue within a matter of months.
Indeed, Ginsburg suggested last month that the court might wait to act until it had a disagreement among appeals courts. So far, the three appellate courts to take up the issue have all come down in favor of a federal constitutional right to same-sex marriage.


Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2014/10/supreme-court-gay-marriage-111648.html#ixzz3FPtr9Np1


I do think the reason the conservatives on Court didn't take up the issue- is that they knew they didn't have the vote to overturn all the lower courts rulings...


I also can't see the Court waiting for years until they get another conservative appointee on the Court- and then bringing the issue back up after their todays ruling allows thousands of individuals in several states to get married and get all the rights that come with marriage under the Appellate Court rulings....

If they do- that will do nothing more than further divide the country....
 

ranch hand

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Whitewing said:
ranch hand said:
I for one get tired of you THINKING you told us so. You are against morals that made this country great and all for tearing it down like your hero obama . I don't know who in the republican party p****d you off, but they sure did a good job. You are a laughing matter up in your part of Montana. :(

NOBODY in the republican party p****d him off. He's not a conservative, and has never been a conservative, and don't let him BS you into believing so.

On most politcal issues, at best he's an opportunist who will side with whomever he believes is in the majority because he's got some weird fear and sense of insecurity about being in the minority. And as has been demonstrated here hundreds of times, his 'principles' are as malleable as clay.

Because of his lack of principles, he's untrustworthy, and likely considered a friend by very few.

His only friend is a lady from Georgia. :wink:
 

loomixguy

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Oldtimer said:
Andy Borowitz

There's genuine fear that legalization of gay marriage could eventually lead to increased tolerance of other religions and races.

You sure seem to have an obsession with same sex marriage. Halloween's coming right up. Maybe you could borrow an outfit from the circus fat lady and go trolling. Hell, you might get lucky and find a gay blind guy there in Glasgow. Better trim the stache, though. :wink: I doubt you're in any shape to pitch, but you could probably catch.
 
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