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Tax Dollars to British distiller for Captain Morgan rum

hypocritexposer

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Want do you want to bet that the Diageo PLC's profit margin is much greater than any Health care insurer?

Tax Dollars to British distiller for Captain Morgan rum

TOM HAMBURGER AND PETER WALLSTEN

Reporting from Washington
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Yo-ho-ho and a bottle of rum.

With little fanfare, a deal is moving forward to direct billions in U.S. tax dollars to an unlikely beneficiary -- the giant British liquor producer that makes Captain Morgan rum.

Under the agreement, London-based Diageo PLC will receive tax credits and other benefits worth $2.7 billion over 30 years, including the entire $165-million cost of building a state-of-the-art distillery on the island of St. Croix in the Virgin Islands, a U.S. territory.

Virgin Islands officials say the arrangement complies with the letter and spirit of tax law and will help the islands' sagging economy.

Captain Morgan is now produced in another U.S. territory, Puerto Rico, and critics say the Virgin Islands' subsidy for the new distillery there, along with the other benefits, are so generous that they practically guarantees a profit on every gallon of rum produced there by Diageo, the biggest distilled spirits maker in the world.

"The U.S. taxpayer is basically being asked to line the pockets of the world's largest liquor producer," says Steve Ellis, the vice president of Taxpayers for Common Sense, a nonpartisan watchdog organization.

With the exception of Ellis and a handful of lawmakers, however, the deal has attracted little opposition in Congress or elsewhere.

Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner has said he does not have authority to block or investigate the project. Criticism on the Hill has been confined to a small group that includes Republican Congressmen Dan Burton of Indiana and Darrel Issa of California, plus a handful of Democrats with large Puerto Rican constituencies.

The key to the deal is a special tax collected on every bottle of rum sold in the United States -- some $470 million a year. The tax was first imposed in 1917 ,and most of the money is funneled back to the governments of rum-producing U.S. territories in the Caribbean to help create jobs, pay for local government services, and promote consumption of rum.

Puerto Rico, which requires that 90% of its rum tax money be used for the public welfare on the island, says it has had as many as 300 workers making Captain Morgan and many if not all those jobs will disappear if Diageo moves its operations to the Virgin Islands.

"It's insulting that the money we give is essentially paying for a foreign corporation to move from one U.S. location to another, while cutting jobs," Ellis complains.

Virgin Islands officials, on the other hand, say the deal, while consuming a good portion of its rum tax dollars, will bring 40-70 jobs and some much needed financial stability to their suffering economy.

The Washington lawyer who helped Diageo negotiate the Virgin Islands agreement, John Merrigan of the DLA Piper firm, says government inducements are often provided to attract a new employer to a location needing economic development. He cited concessions granted by Tennessee and South Carolina to encourage foreign automakers to locate plants in their states.

And Diageo officials say that, contrary to Puerto Rico's claim that the deal will result in a net loss of jobs, it actually saved jobs.

The company would probably have moved its operations to Guatemala or Jamaica or another country if the Virgin Islands hadn't offered the favorable terms, Diageo says.

The offer "helped us decide to stay in the U.S.," said Zsoka McDonald, Diageo's director of media relations.

"If what the government put up was a lot in terms of a subsidy, he said, "then . But what Diageo put up was a lot as well. Diageo moved its global brand to an untried production venue for 30 years. There is risk and reward on both sides and both parties concluded it was a fair deal," he said.

The Virgin Islands government will finance the new $165 million distillery by issuing bonds that will be paid off with future rum tax dollars. In addition, the 30-year agreement provides almost $2 billion in marketing subsidies and a break on property and income taxes, though the company will accept reduced subsidy payments until the construction debt is repaid, Merrigan said.

Legislation to limit the agreement was offered in April by Puerto Rico's representative in the U.S. Congress, Rep. Pedro Pierluisi. But his proposal, which would cap subsidies to the industry at a maximum of 10% of total rum tax revenues, has picked up only a handful of co-sponsors. House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) has refused to intervene in the dispute, citing his longstanding support for the rum tax program, which gives territories the right to determine how the funds will be used.

Republican Congressman Dan Burton of Indiana, who is on a fact-finding trip to the region this week, says he is supporting Pierluisi's bill "because there needs to be a vehicle for intervention when unreasonable subsidies are given to foreign companies at taxpayer expense. . ."

Roberto Serralles, whose family owns the Puerto Rico distillery that currently produces Captain Morgan under contract to Diageo, said other brands will find it hard to compete with Captain Morgan on price: "We're going to be competing with producers in the Virgin Islands that will have no cost," he said.

In the end, said Javier Vazquez, executive director of the Puerto Rico Industrial Development Company, the two Caribbean territories could get into a trade war over whocan give rum makers the biggest rewards. Bacardi, another huge producer, still has a large operation in Puerto Rico.

"This is going to be a race to the bottom," he said.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-dc-rum,0,1491418.story
 
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The Virgin Islands government will finance the new $165 million distillery by issuing bonds that will be paid off with future rum tax dollars.

Did you note- that it is not the US government doing it- its the Virgin Island government....Something that is done by states and localities all the time...
And if you want to really read some interesting reading- go back and read on the Abramoff scandal- how he took Tom Delay, Conrad Burns, and several other Congressional folks to American Samoa and the Mauriana's-- and lobbyied them to get them to change their vote- and not invoke US laws over the territory- so the Communist Chinese could keep operating their sweat shops (making Made in USA labeled Products) using imported Asian labor that were treated like slaves- and given forced abortions....

Geithner is right- he has little say over the deal or the territories- and much of it is because of this Abramoff lobbyied law that Delay and Burns helped kill- so companies can get all the US benefits while operating in a territory-but don't have to follow any US laws ....
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
The Virgin Islands government will finance the new $165 million distillery by issuing bonds that will be paid off with future rum tax dollars.

Did you note- that it is not the US government doing it- its the Virgin Island government....Something that is done by states and localities all the time...
And if you want to really read some interesting reading- go back and read on the Abramoff scandal- how he took Tom Delay, Conrad Burns, and several other Congressional folks to American Samoa and the Mauriana's-- and lobbyied them to get them to change their vote- and not invoke US laws over the territory- so the Communist Chinese could keep operating their sweat shops (making Made in USA labeled Products) using imported Asian labor that were treated like slaves- and given forced abortions....

Geithner is right- he has little say over the deal or the territories- and much of it is because of this Abramoff lobbyied law that Delay and Burns helped kill- so companies can get all the US benefits while operating in a territory-but don't have to follow any US laws ....


Where do the tax breaks come from?

Under the agreement, London-based Diageo PLC will receive tax credits and other benefits worth $2.7 billion over 30 years
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
The Virgin Islands government will finance the new $165 million distillery by issuing bonds that will be paid off with future rum tax dollars.

Did you note- that it is not the US government doing it- its the Virgin Island government....Something that is done by states and localities all the time...
And if you want to really read some interesting reading- go back and read on the Abramoff scandal- how he took Tom Delay, Conrad Burns, and several other Congressional folks to American Samoa and the Mauriana's-- and lobbyied them to get them to change their vote- and not invoke US laws over the territory- so the Communist Chinese could keep operating their sweat shops (making Made in USA labeled Products) using imported Asian labor that were treated like slaves- and given forced abortions....

Geithner is right- he has little say over the deal or the territories- and much of it is because of this Abramoff lobbyied law that Delay and Burns helped kill- so companies can get all the US benefits while operating in a territory-but don't have to follow any US laws ....


Where do the tax breaks come from?

Under the agreement, London-based Diageo PLC will receive tax credits and other benefits worth $2.7 billion over 30 years

Virgin Islands officials, on the other hand, say the deal, while consuming a good portion of its rum tax dollars, will bring 40-70 jobs and some much needed financial stability to their suffering economy.



House Ways and Means Chairman Charles Rangel (D-N.Y.) has refused to intervene in the dispute, citing his longstanding support for the rum tax program, which gives territories the right to determine how the funds will be used.

Like I said- the Territories control it-- not much different than the states controlling the state taxes they bring in for items they produce in their state....In this case it looks like the federal government collects it- then gives it back to the territory to use as they please....
 

hypocritexposer

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Like I said- the Territories control it-- not much different than the states controlling the state taxes they bring in for items they produce in their state....In this case it looks like the federal government collects it- then gives it back to the territory to use as they please....

then why collect it at all, if they are just going to give it all back? Sounds like they are holding the purse strings for political reasons.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Like I said- the Territories control it-- not much different than the states controlling the state taxes they bring in for items they produce in their state....In this case it looks like the federal government collects it- then gives it back to the territory to use as they please....

then why collect it at all, if they are just going to give it all back? Sounds like they are holding the purse strings for political reasons.

DING-- did the light bulb pop on in your head ? :lol:
You need to spend less time looking for far out tinfoil conspiracies and read about Abramoff, Delay, Burns, and the others in the Maurianas scandal...There is a beautiful AG's report out on it how these good old boy Repubs threw out all their Buy American patriotism- and holier than thou "family values" to support Communist Chinese products (labeled Made in USA), sweatshops, forced prostitution and abortions, spying, terrorist access to mainland, etc. etc.--just for the campaign donations the Communist Chinese funneled thru Abramoff...

And then there is the Pelosi battle against allowing the new minimum wage law to be valid in American Samoa--where the major producer is Star Kist Tuna- which at the time of the vote was owned by Del Monte who is headquartered in her home district....(They are now owned by a Korean Conglomerate- but still able to ship in Made In USA Tuna because it is processed in a Territory- which we have little legal jurisdiction over :roll: )...
 
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