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Tea Party influence! Hey OT!!!

backhoeboogie

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http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140526-texas-gop-primaries-are-steeped-in-tea-party-agenda.ece

Seems the Tea Party has clout!! Breaks your heart???
 
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backhoeboogie said:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/politics/headlines/20140526-texas-gop-primaries-are-steeped-in-tea-party-agenda.ece

Seems the Tea Party has clout!! Breaks your heart???


Yeah- but that's Texas- not the USA...
"You can always tell a Texan- you just can't tell him much"... :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Faster horses said:
Good for Texas!! They 'get' what is at stake.

So Faster Horses you don't think Montanan's know what is at stake since they are largely behind the only Repub Congressional candidate that has refused to kiss the rear of or sign on to any Tea Party...
To me it is refreshing to see a candidate with as much confidence as Zinke has and the backbone to break from the coyote pack mentality and say he will do what he thinks is best for Montana and the country and not what some Tea Party handlers tell him they think he should do...
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Faster horses said:
Good for Texas!! They 'get' what is at stake.

So Faster Horses you don't think Montanan's know what is at stake since they are largely behind the only Repub Congressional candidate that has refused to kiss the rear of or sign on to any Tea Party...
To me it is refreshing to see a candidate with as much confidence as Zinke has and the backbone to break from the coyote pack mentality and say he will do what he thinks is best for Montana and the country and not what some Tea Party handlers tell him they think he should do...


We know one guy from Mt that doesn't,,, EX L.E. from Valley county


as far as handlers, yours tell you what to do and say....an you drop to your knees and do it
 

Mike

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Hey Fatsquatch, read 'em and weep!!!
"Growth," Zinke said, "is getting the government out of business so the economy can grow. The Ryan budget was a good framework. The scale of cuts you would need to solve an 18 trillion debt is just not possible," he added.

"Every industry," Zinke said, "is in an excessive regulatory environment that's preventing [it] from doing business. That's a problem across the board," he said.

With regards to Obamacare, he said "I think we abandon it. Whether repeal or abandonment is chosen, one size doesn't fit all." He added that "1 out of 10 pitches [in Obamacare] make sense, probably the pre-existing element."

When pressed by Breitbart News, Zinke said if an Obamacare Repeal Act of 2015 were to be introduced, he would vote for it.

"We get attacked by the left as being a radical Tea Party right wing candidate," Zinke told Breitbart News, "and we get attacked by the extreme right in Montana for not being conservative enough."

"I don’t fit well into a box," Zinke said. He did, however, speak of his admiration for former presidential candidate Newt Gingrich. "The last time the Republican Party had vision was when Newt Gingrich was Speaker," he said.

Though Tea Party groups in Montana have not rallied to his candidacy, Zinke said "the Tea Party is for more freedom and less government. I think we would all be Tea Party. I try to reach out to everybody."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Hey Fatsquatch, read 'em and weep!!!
"Growth," Zinke said, "is getting the government out of business so the economy can grow. The Ryan budget was a good framework. The scale of cuts you would need to solve an 18 trillion debt is just not possible," he added.

"Every industry," Zinke said, "is in an excessive regulatory environment that's preventing [it] from doing business. That's a problem across the board," he said.

With regards to Obamacare, he said "I think we abandon it. Whether repeal or abandonment is chosen, one size doesn't fit all." He added that "1 out of 10 pitches [in Obamacare] make sense, probably the pre-existing element."

When pressed by Breitbart News, Zinke said if an Obamacare Repeal Act of 2015 were to be introduced, he would vote for it.

"We get attacked by the left as being a radical Tea Party right wing candidate," Zinke told Breitbart News, "and we get attacked by the extreme right in Montana for not being conservative enough."

"I don’t fit well into a box," Zinke said. He did, however, speak of his admiration for former presidential candidate Newt Gingrich. "The last time the Republican Party had vision was when Newt Gingrich was Speaker," he said.

Though Tea Party groups in Montana have not rallied to his candidacy, Zinke said "the Tea Party is for more freedom and less government. I think we would all be Tea Party. I try to reach out to everybody."

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Yep-- and because he doesn't fit well into their box- and hasn't followed the exact beat the Tea Party wants or signed their pledge saying he will do whats best for Montana, not any group -- they are coming out with terrible ads calling him such evil things as a "Liberal", "Democrat" or even "moderate"...

Comical - those Tea Party folks even sending out flyers calling a 23 year Navy Seal Iraq veteran retired Commander/Disabled Vet and two time bronze star winner "unpatriotic" because he refuses to sign on to their anti-government and anarchy agenda...

But what is happening is all the other candidates are running as extremist right wingers- and signing on with the Tea Party- and splitting the support and will split the vote...
Zinke had a million $ lead in donations until a couple of days ago when Rosendale "loaned" his campaign a million $ of his own-- but still has a lead in funding...The next candidate has raised $600,000, then $160,000, and your candidate that the Tea Party won't even accept has raised less than $7,000 :roll: ...

If my thinking is right those 3 Tea Party candidates and the nutcase KKK backer will all draw some votes- and split it to the point Zinke wins in a landslide...
 

Mike

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Zinke said "the Tea Party is for more freedom and less government. I think we would all be Tea Party

Sounds Tea Party-ish to me and the rest of the world............

Are you sure you can read? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Zinke said "the Tea Party is for more freedom and less government. I think we would all be Tea Party

Sounds Tea Party-ish to me and the rest of the world............

Are you sure you can read? :lol: :lol: :lol:



Posted: May 6, 2014 at 8:01 am

GOP Honchos: Zinke is Slinky on Abortion


It has not been a good week for Ryan Zinke, the former state legislator from Whitefish who is running for Congress. He is in the midst of a nasty GOP primary and his fellow Republicans are ganging up on him and making life very tough.

It’s good drama, and it could bode well for Jon Lewis if he beats out Jon Driscoll, as I expect he should, for the Democratic primary in the House race.

This week, Zinke was (predictably) criticized by right-wingers, heavily, for having made several votes in favor of women’s medical privacy in his time as state senator. His votes would actually reduce the need for abortion, by improving access to birth control and prevent unintended pregnancy in the first place, but facts don’t matter to his opponents, who would probably outlaw birth control altogether. (He also made many anti-choice votes.) The state newspapers had two separate articles over the weekend describing Zinke’s mixed abortion position and now, today, a third one has been published.

Yesterday’s piece reported that the Three Amigos–Rick Hill, Ken Miller and John Brenden, all former GOP state chairs–are slamming Zinke for being pro-choice and for having voted on occasion in favor of the environment. They say he is not a true conservative but rather (gasp) a moderate. Thus in their view Zinke does not pass the conservative purity test that we have often seen applied in GOP primaries.

To review, Zinke is in a race right now against Corey Stapleton, Matt Rosendale and Elsie Arntzen among a few others. These are all current or former state legislators.

Arntzen is said to have extraordinary personal wealth at her disposal, but if she does she clearly hasn’t spent much of it. She’s not really that visible, nor has she done or said anything to separate herself from the pack or establish a brand.

Stapleton and Rosendale each have put a fair amount of resources into the race although only one of them–Rosendale–seems to be speaking the language of the Republican base. He has an ad on TV, in case you haven’t seen it, in which he shoots a drone down with a rifle. And, Rosendale tends to come across as a lunatic, some kind of cross between a white supremacist and an inmate at a maximum security prison.



Zinke’s TV ad, meanwhile, shows him walking in a field and talking about his grandmother (and he tweeted several times this week about his grandmother) but does not position him in any way on the GOP spectrum, and does not provide the viewer any memorable visual like Rosendale does. And the narrator says Zinke is the right kind of conservative, which is a dangerous thing to say in this climate of rabid TEA Partiers when there is no elaboration. The implication of the TV ad is that Zinke is an old fashioned conservative, but that drone doesn’t fly these days among the Tea Party. I believe it could be a misstep for Zinke to have spent so much money on so bland an ad, because he should have foreseen the concerted attacks on his conservative cred, and done something more along the lines of Rosendale–something to boldly brand himself as a wingnut is needed to win the GOP primary.

Zinke has misfired before with the statewide GOP electorate, notably in 2012 when he joined up with Neil Livingstone as his lieutenant governor candidate. That campaign was never much more than a whisper.

The strange part is that Zinke is rumored to have shot and killed dozens of Iraqi soldiers in the 1990s in the first Gulf War. I would have thought that shooting and killing foreigners would earn an automatic victory in a gun-crazed GOP primary nowadays. Isn’t that what every Tea Party voter dreams of? And yet Zinke seems like he might be stalled, floundering.

Then again, without any polling data it is tough to say who is leading this race. Public Policy Polling or Rasmussen will no doubt soon publish some data and maybe then we’ll know where it all stands.

If I had to guess I’d say it’s now a three way heat between Zinke, Rosendale and Stapleton. Stapleton is running statewide for the third time; Rosendale has spent a boatload on his TV ad; and Zinke has a strong following the Flathead but the attacks against him are probably wearing him down.


One hilarious item in the Zinke coverage is that the top anti-choice activist in Montana, the president of the state’s Right To Life chapter, Greg Trude, is supporting Zinke.

Trude was asked how he can support a candidate who has taken pro-choice votes. Trude said Zinke has a 100% pro-life rating from his organization. The reporter asked to see the organization’s official candidate ratings. Trude said he doesn’t have any on paper, but that he keeps all candidates’ scores “in his head.”

He says he isn't Tea Party- and most see him as the anti-Tea Party candidate... More of the old conservative type that thinks for himself... He has said he won't sign a Tea Party pledge- doing what is best for Montana and the country-not what some group wants.... And I sure don't want another just say NO, Humpty Dumpty/Dr. Suess reader in Congress! :roll: :p :lol:

The Tea Party folks are also painting Zinke as anti-gun rights because altho he is a big supporter of the 2nd Amendment- he believes like most sane people that gun ownership also needs some regulation...We don't want 12 year olds buying guns or anyone on the street that has the money walking in and buying a "Ma Deuce" 50 caliber machine gun...
The Tea Party I know and have seen doesn't stand for such common sense...

This gal is pro-Democrat-- but if Zinke wins the primary, I think he will be a shoo in... If one of the radical Tea Party folks do- I'm not so sure the Repubs can win...

From the Breibart article you left out:

The real question is whether Republican primary voters will prefer a largely self-financed candidate who consistently backs the core values of the Tea Party movement over a retired Navy SEAL who aspires to offer Republicans the same kind of vision Newt Gingrich promoted in 1994.
 

backhoeboogie

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No one in Texas wants to be anti-Tea Party. They are wanting the Tea Party to endorse them. That gives the Dims little hope of winning an election. They might win the primary and pray for a miracle in the main election.
 

Mike

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Some folks are too stupid to understand that the "Tea Party" is NOT an actual political party, but only a "Movement" of like minded people who want the gov't to get out of the way and quit stifling growth, along with less spending on entitlements and waste.

Just like Zinke. :lol: :lol:
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Hey BB,

Heard of a McDonald's starting employees out at $14 an hour. Bet you can't guess which state that was in. :)

Wonder if they'll be leading the strike to get minimum wage up to $15? :D
 
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Mike said:
Some folks are too stupid to understand that the "Tea Party" is NOT an actual political party, but only a "Movement" of like minded people who want the gov't to get out of the way and quit stifling growth, along with less spending on entitlements and waste.

Just like Zinke. :lol: :lol:


Oh I think there is a lot of people that see it just like me and this fella who's article was in todays paper:


U.S. House race: Zinke sees beyond black and white

10 hours ago


Ryan Zinke is just the person we want in Congress. Why? Because all we now have are people who either see white or black. And because of that they aren’t getting anything resolved and this country desperately needs matters resolved.

Zinke sees gray. Gray-seeing people will get matters resolved. White/black-seeing people don’t and won’t.

David Bennett, Thompson Falls

People are tired of folks that have NO positive ideas- and just say NO to everything... They realize that reading Dr. Suess all day from the Senate or House floor is not the way to accomplish anything- especially when it puts the country's economy in danger... I agree- many of the issues in government are not black and white- any actions or nonactions have a reaction- and often is a grey area-- and often these have to be weighed into the decision making process...
 
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Mike said:
Oh I think there is a lot of people that see it just like me

Yea, you and the 47% that have their hands out and think that gov't can be everything to all people.


It's a fact, our campaign has earned the support of more individual campaign contributors than all other opponents combined. This just goes to show how much my positive message is resonating with the people of our great state!

We must have a richer 47% than you po' southern folk have... And the Commander wisely doesn't even mention the KKK's candidate as existing....
 

iwannabeacowboy

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Some folks are too stupid to understand that the "Tea Party" is NOT an actual political party, but only a "Movement" of like minded people who want the gov't to get out of the way and quit stifling growth, along with less spending on entitlements and waste.

Just like Zinke. :lol: :lol:


Oh I think there is a lot of people that see it just like me and this fella who's article was in todays paper:


U.S. House race: Zinke sees beyond black and white

10 hours ago


Ryan Zinke is just the person we want in Congress. Why? Because all we now have are people who either see white or black. And because of that they aren’t getting anything resolved and this country desperately needs matters resolved.

Zinke sees gray. Gray-seeing people will get matters resolved. White/black-seeing people don’t and won’t.

David Bennett, Thompson Falls

People are tired of folks that have NO positive ideas- and just say NO to everything... They realize that reading Dr. Suess all day from the Senate or House floor is not the way to accomplish anything- especially when it puts the country's economy in danger... I agree- many of the issues in government are not black and white- any actions or nonactions have a reaction- and often is a grey area-- and often these have to be weighed into the decision making process...

The people that sent the guy to Congress to stop it's destruction of the economy is the state where people are flooding for jobs.
 

Mike

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Can't figure out what OT is gloating about. I'm all for a Republican with Tea Party principles. :???: :???: :???: :???:

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Yea, we got plenty of those down here too!! :wink:
 
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