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Tea Party 'Vision for Montana' raising concerns

Faster horses

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http://visiontoamerica.org/story/tea-party-vision-for-montana-raising-concerns.html

Some of the comments:

There are several people talking about moving to Montana and that idea is very tempting. However...what you folks really need to do is stay where you are and work (hard) to "clone" Montana, Wyoming, Wisconsin, etc. in your current states.
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It appears that too many Montana politicians care less for the rights of citizens, than are concern about the overbearing Big Government impositions which take place outside of the constraints of the US Constitution. Those politicians should be voted out of office. Montana sounds like a place I'd like to move to.
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Less government, more freedom, sounds like something worth working for, Go Montana.
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The Tea Party's here and we are here to stay, so get used to it.
The times they are a changing!
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What is there to be worried about or even to debate? The 10th amendment says:

The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.

The Federal government is in love with attempting to get around this amendment by using the "commerce" clause. Are you aware that Montana has already short circuited that move as it relates to gun control by saying in their state law that citizens of the state of Montana shall have the right to keep and bear arms manufactured with the borders of their state. Worded correctly, almost any state can make sure that their laws keep Washington's long noses out of their business. Good for Montana.........there are few places in this country where people can be sure that the "State" will protect their rights under the Constitution. This is a breath of fresh air in a miasma of legalese used by Washington to control US citizens.
 

Lonecowboy

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The Hardest Decision Of My Life

By Chuck Baldwin

August 31, 2010

Archived column: http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/?p=2209

Last Sunday, August 29, 2010, was the hardest day of my life. Even
when my father made me promise that I would preach his funeral (which
I did--twice: once in Indiana where he lived, and again in Florida
where I live and where he is buried), that was not as difficult and
gut wrenching as what I had to do last Sunday. Last Sunday, I retired
as the pastor of the church that my wife and I founded 35 years ago:
the Crossroad Baptist Church of Pensacola, Florida.

Think of it: all of my adult life (after college) has been spent
pastoring this wonderful congregation. And the people that I spoke to
this past Sunday evening are, without a doubt, the finest group of
people I have ever known. They are my friends. Many of them I had led
to Christ, or were saved under my preaching. Some have stood with me
for twenty years; some for over thirty years. My vocabulary is too
limited to express the love and appreciation I have for these
wonderful people! They stood by me through thick and thin. Even when
God opened the door for me to run for President of the United States
on the Constitution Party ticket, they stood by me. They stood by me
when enemies attacked me; they stood by me when friends forsook me.

And last Sunday evening, I had to tell them that, after 35 years as
their shepherd, God had led me to leave them. I can tell you, tears
flowed like rivers; and I believe my family and I cried more than
anyone.

When I was 18 years old, I told the Lord that I would do anything He
wanted me to do; I would be anything He wanted me to be; and I would
go anywhere He wanted me to go. And I mean that today as much as I did
then. Therefore, the only thing that could move me from the pulpit of
Crossroad Church was a clear and definite call and leading from God.
35 years ago, that call led my wife and me to Pensacola, Florida.
Today that call has led us to the Flathead Valley of Montana, some
2,500 miles away.

Therefore, within the next few weeks, my entire family will be moving
to the Kalispell area of the great State of Montana
. By my family, I
mean my wife and I, my daughter and her husband and their 3 children,
my oldest son and his wife and their 3 boys, my youngest son and his
wife and their one child, and my wife's mother and her husband. That's
5 families and 17 people. Yes, my grown children and their spouses
have felt the same calling. We are not only a family; we are a team.
And we are headed to Montana.

God has led us to the conviction that Montana (along with other
Mountain states) is going to be the tip of the spear in the freedom
fight;
and we believe God wants us to be part of that fight.
We plan
to start a new ministry where I can preach and my family can sing and
minister (you should hear them sing!). Once we get established and can
raise the funds, I definitely plan to livestream my messages on the
Internet as we have been doing at Crossroad for the past year and a
half. And if God opens the door, I will not rule out a run for State
office. Yes, the freedom message is both spiritual and political; and
I am afraid of neither!

For years, people have been asking me, "Chuck, what can we do?" Well,
this is what God has led my family and me to do. We are convinced that
the only way freedom has a chance to survive in these States united is
to recapture the spirit of liberty--one State at a time.
(To continue
to focus on Washington, D.C., is a waste of time and energy!) And God
has led us to the conclusion that Montana (and nearby states) is the
place where freedom-minded patriots have a fighting chance to prevail.
Instead of telling you what to do, my family and I are showing you
what we believe we should do.

Is this move going to be easy? Are you kidding? We all know what the
housing market is like. We are experiencing the effects of this
depressed economy just like everyone else. Like everyone else, we all
have homes to sell or rent, and my two sons and son-in-law have
businesses to either sell or relocate. Without a doubt, this will be
the hardest move of our entire lives. We are leaving dear friends
behind; my children and their children are leaving their hometown and
school chums; we are trading a warm weather climate for a cold one;
and we are leaving the church that we have loved and served for over
three decades. In many ways, we feel like modern-day Pilgrims, looking
for a land of liberty.

Over the past two years, I have traveled more than 60,000 miles from
coast to coast and border to border
. I have met and talked with
Americans from sea to shining sea. I have seen the states where real
freedom is virtually nonexistent. And I have seen the states where the
love of liberty still burns bright. And I (and my family) believe that
there are more freedom-minded people (per capita and per square mile)
in Montana than, perhaps, in any other State in the union.
So, after much prayer (and I mean much!), we believe God is calling
us to partner with those freedom-minded souls in The Treasure State.
Back in the 1880s, Montana experienced a gold rush. I believe that in
the 2010s, Montana is going to experience a FREEDOM RUSH.
And for us,
the rush is on!

So, this Sunday, September 5, 2010, I will preach my last two
messages at Crossroad Baptist Church. Already, my dear friend and
ardent patriot, Wallace Nichols, of Birmingham, Alabama, has accepted
the call to be Crossroad's new pastor. And I know that this dear
congregation is under very capable leadership. In fact, I fully expect
the church to grow substantially under his ministry. And when that
happens, no one will rejoice more than my family and I.

Yes, I will continue to write this column; but while we are in the
process of moving (maybe 6 weeks or more), they will not be written
quite as often. I will attempt (with the help of a small but dedicated
staff) to produce at least one column a week (instead of two). Yes, my
web site, ChuckBaldwinLive.com will be maintained. And, yes, people
will still be able to support us via the website during this
transition.

My website is located at:

http://chuckbaldwinlive.com/home/
 

hopalong

Well-known member
This is the Montana tea party according to oldtimer
radical right extremist/gun law extremist/skinhead-neonazi extremist

his own words :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Tam

Well-known member
At first they rolled their eyes, but now they are quickly ramping up their opposition, even recycling a slogan once leveled by conservatives against liberals protesting the Vietnam War.

"I say to you: 'This is America: Love it or leave it,'" shouted Rep. William McChesney, during the sovereignty declaration debate.

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One has to wonder if DEMOCRAT William McChesney rolled his eyes and told Obama
'This is America: Love it or leave it,'

When he, Biden, and the DNC were campaigning to Fundamentally CHANGE the United States of America :?

What tells me he did not and neither did Oldtimer. :wink:

DO AS I SAY NOT AS I DO
 
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