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Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:



You obviously didn't get past the CNN report, that falsely claimed this was based on accents.

"State School Superintendent Tom Horne says, as part of No Child Left Behind, he's been monitoring ELL teachers for bad grammar and mispronounced words for the past eight years."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/05/24/cnn-spins-az-english-education-standard-accent-crackdown-ban#ixzz0otFuZZmw
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:



You obviously didn't get past the CNN report, that falsely claimed this was based on accents.

"State School Superintendent Tom Horne says, as part of No Child Left Behind, he's been monitoring ELL teachers for bad grammar and mispronounced words for the past eight years."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/05/24/cnn-spins-az-english-education-standard-accent-crackdown-ban#ixzz0otFuZZmw

Well that would rule out Canucks too with their oots and aboots and zeds- etc ... :wink: :lol: :p

Definitely nobody that was raised in Newfoundland...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
hypocritexposer said:
Oldtimer said:
This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:



You obviously didn't get past the CNN report, that falsely claimed this was based on accents.

"State School Superintendent Tom Horne says, as part of No Child Left Behind, he's been monitoring ELL teachers for bad grammar and mispronounced words for the past eight years."

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/matthew-balan/2010/05/24/cnn-spins-az-english-education-standard-accent-crackdown-ban#ixzz0otFuZZmw

Well that would rule out Canucks too with their oots and aboots and zeds- etc ... :wink: :lol: :p

Definitely nobody that was raised in Newfoundland...

Maybe it would, and if means that children get a proper education because of it, I'm all for it. Same as I don't want a teacher that can't divide x by 1 and get x as an answer, to be a math teacher.
 

hopalong

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don said:
looks like, incrementally, az is striving for some sort of purity. good luck with that.[/quote

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Poor ole don.
from his lil world in Canada criticizing two laws that closely mimic laws all ready in effect in the Federal Government :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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hopalong said:
don said:
looks like, incrementally, az is striving for some sort of purity. good luck with that.[/quote

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Poor ole don.
from his lil world in Canada criticizing two laws that closely mimic laws all ready in effect in the Federal Govenment :roll:

For some reason Liberals have a problem with laws being enforced. They push for Government oversight and control through laws, but when they see how those laws affect people, they use political correctness as an excuse not to follow the laws.

Unintended consequences of big Government.
 

redrobin

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hypocritexposer said:
hopalong said:
don said:
looks like, incrementally, az is striving for some sort of purity. good luck with that.[/quote

:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
Poor ole don.
from his lil world in Canada criticizing two laws that closely mimic laws all ready in effect in the Federal Govenment :roll:

For some reason Liberals have a problem with laws being enforced. They push for Government oversight and control through laws, but when they see how those laws affect people, they use political correctness as an excuse not to follow the laws.

Unintended consequences of big Government.
Brilliant observation hypo. You're spot on.
 

Twister Frost

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Oldtimer said:
Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:

Really don't believe this had anything to do with accents, as NCLB seems to focus more on the English fluency of ELL teachers. But, if the teacher's flency challenge is noticeably accentuated--could be!
 

Twister Frost

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don said:
looks like, incrementally, az is striving for some sort of purity. good luck with that.

I am tired of our English language being denigrated---remember the Spanglish trial run. That was a huge success! And Ebonics—even better! I find it humorous that as a Spanish teacher, I run my students through the wringer to pronounce and use Spanish correctly, even making sure that they get their accents right. Yet, the expectation that ELL/ESL students be taught by teachers who are fluent in the English language is viewed as a “purity” move. My hope for my Spanish students is that they would be able to communicate without fear with Spanish speakers---I would bet that it is the same hope that ELL/ESL students have when learning our language. Ever had a teacher who did not know their curriculum? The effects of that are long lasting and never ending.
 

BRG

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Obviously some did not have a teacher that they couldn't understand. My brother had an Asian teaching a math class. It was hard enough by itself, and when he couldn't understand the instructor at all, you can guess what happened then.
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:

College Preparatory
The Montana University System requires that you complete the following college prepatory requirements:

four years of English;
three years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry and Algebra II—you are encouraged to take a math class your senior year of high school;
three years of social studies, including one year of global studies, one year of American history and one year of government or another third-year course (i.e., economics, psychology, sociology);
two years of laboratory science. One must be earth science, biology, chemistry or physics—the second year may be one of those sciences or another approved college preparatory laboratory science course;
two years chosen from the following: foreign language (preferably two years), computer science, visual and performing arts, or vocational education.

HUMMMMM does not take 12 yrs of english to get into Montana's Colleges.
What is up with that :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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hopalong said:
Oldtimer said:
Teachers with accents scrutinized

Arizona officials want immigrant teachers with heavy accents removed from classes for students still learning English. They say they are following federal guidelines. But critics tell CNN's "American Morning" it's an ethnic witch hunt.

This made me think of a few folks with heavy hard to understand accents I've known over the years-- and if passed in Montana (since MT requires 12 years of English) would mean no teaching jobs for many migrating in from Texas, Louisiana, Alabama, New Jersey, Brooklyn, or several other parts of the country- besides many instructors from Europe ... :wink: :lol: :lol:

College Preparatory
The Montana University System requires that you complete the following college prepatory requirements:

four years of English;
three years of math, including Algebra I, Geometry and Algebra II—you are encouraged to take a math class your senior year of high school;
three years of social studies, including one year of global studies, one year of American history and one year of government or another third-year course (i.e., economics, psychology, sociology);
two years of laboratory science. One must be earth science, biology, chemistry or physics—the second year may be one of those sciences or another approved college preparatory laboratory science course;
two years chosen from the following: foreign language (preferably two years), computer science, visual and performing arts, or vocational education.

HUMMMMM does not take 12 yrs of english to get into Montana's Colleges.
What is up with that :roll: :roll: :roll:

WHAT? You just posted the requirements- and it says 4 years of English...

Are you so dumb- that you don't understand those are the High School requirements- and that English is taught every year in grade school from K-8... 8+4=12....(Actually now that Kindergarten is mandatory it makes it 13 years)...
Even non- college bound kids end up taking 13 years of English in order to graduate--even if its bonehead English.....

Sometimes I do pity you- both your ignorance and your hatred.... :(
 

hopalong

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all that is required is 4 yrs to get into college :wink: :wink: :wink:
Cant you read????

:roll: :roll: :roll:
save your pity for your self YOU need it worse than I do :D :D :D
 
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