Tears fall

[starvin'dog]

I read on another site that to equate todays minimum wage with the 1960's minimum wage would take $25/hr.
Maybe my kids are right and the tooth fairy is a cheapskate!

 

[Faster horses]

Just a comment.

We sold our ranch 5 years ago. The buyer agreed to keep both employees at their current wage, They were paid at about the highest rate of any in the area along with a nice house, utilities paid except for phone. They also got a $100,000 life insurancy policy and health insurance. They also each got a beef a year.

A few months later, the new owner said they were too expensive and cut their wages. Then he made them contract employees so he didn't have to pay half of FICA.

At one time, I paid them as contract employees and gave them the employers share of FICA. When I found that one of them was claiming self-employment losses and keeping the FICA money, I put them on a payroll - which greatly benefitted them upon retirement,

After a year or so, the oldest retired. The owner never said goodbye. When I left, I paid each of them about 3 months wages as a goodwill gesture. I gave each of their wives a US gold coin for their incidental help over the years (Also a bunch of excellent meals.)

Now, one of the employees is running the ranch alone along with a neighboring ranch the new owner bought.


There are some employeesyou can't pay too much, others you wouldn't want even if they were free. The same goes for employers.

That is just downright shameful.

You were very honerable in your treatment of your help. Showed your
appreciation to them. Good for you.

 

[3words]

So what is minimum wage in united states?

 

[Larrry]

It sounds like ten dollars must be a workable wage If it wasn't no one would have applied. If its not decent then I have a solution...don't apply
Sure a guy might like to pay more but if it is what you can afford to pay then offer it and if you can settle for ten apply for the job

 

[Zilly]

So what is minimum wage in united states?

$7.25 is the Federally mandated minimum wage.

I would say that a straight $10 an hour job may be a livable wage in some parts of the US, but in most, it would be darn hard. On the other side of the coin, if we start talking about $10 an hour plus perks (housing, truck, beef etc.), things become much different. That would essentially be $20,000+ a year for spending money. There are folks making 6 figures that don't have that much spending money, but that is usually their own doing.

I may get blasted for saying this, but I think some in the ag sector have a skewed view of what it cost to live. I saw it when I was on the dairy and have read it on a different ag board... "the farm" purchases a lot of day to day items. Day to day items that an employee has to pay for out of the $10 an hour minus tax they are bringing home.

edit to add: I don't think kelpies4me or anyone who offers $10 an hour is taking advantage of anyone. If that is all the operation can support, you can't get blood from a stone. It's up to the applicant to decide what their time is worth.

 

[Broke Cowboy]

400 bucks for a 40 hour week

Living wage?

If you live in a vehicle and do not have a family to support

Taxes, rent and food plus plus plus wife and kids? Not a chance and I think we all know it.

It is a supplement wage, a desparation wage or a "it's all there is I got to take it" wage - take your pick

Anyone here want to try to live on it - TODAY?

I do not care about last year or any year - how bout right now?

If it is all you can pay - fair enough.

If it is all that is around then take it.

If there is no truck, no beef, no house and any other perks you can think of - there is no employee the minute a better wage comes along.

You need far more than this to make it today - and that is for certain in socialist Canada where everything is more expensive than the US of A - and you probably need far more in the US of A - unless you want a drug dealer for a landlord and the local gang kicking in your front door every night.

I look at the first post in this thread and guys taking these jobs and have to admit they are probably good people - down on their luck.

Zilly you are not skewed at all - people forget. Heck one tank of gas eats up all the slack just to get to work oin this salary - and often it is two or three tanks a week to get to work - and that is all the slack - gone.

I guess we can all blame that guy Bush for this.

Best to all

BC

 

[tenbach79]

Plus pay for your smart phone and cell phone bill.

 

[Denny]

Well being the guy paying the wages There's weeks the only one's who got paid were the suppliers and the help.And that happened more than you know.I pay my guy $12 an hour cash.I eat the income and he has a real job.He just likes to work and his girlfriend likes to spend.

He had close to a hundred hours in on that last 28' trailer so basically he made 1/2 the profit and I still had a light bill and own the equipment. He did about 85% of the work.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $10 buck/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

Missed the 10

They pay travelers more then they pay the local staff. One nurse she works with goes to Glasgow for some shifts cause it pays more.

 

[Anonymous]

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ buck/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

What have you been smoking? I've had a daughter that is finishing her nursing/RN degree- and working as a CNA with a traveling nurse program- and working in areas like Scobey/Plentywood is one of the top dollar places to work...

Since they are so short handed- this winter my wife has spent a couple of weekends handling X-Ray/Nuclear Med call up there so the techs can have a day off-- and even tho one weekend she never got called she still made several thousand $ guaranteed contract- plus they put her up in a facility built just to house Drs/Techs- and paid mileage ....
And she enjoyed a restful weekend working on her sewing and crafts with bother from the Grandkids or me.... :wink: :lol:

 

[strawking]

I pay an average of 10 bucks an hour and I know thats far more than I make.

 

[3words]

So what is minimum wage in united states?

$7.25 is the Federally mandated minimum wage.

I would say that a straight $10 an hour job may be a livable wage in some parts of the US, but in most, it would be darn hard. On the other side of the coin, if we start talking about $10 an hour plus perks (housing, truck, beef etc.), things become much different. That would essentially be $20,000+ a year for spending money. There are folks making 6 figures that don't have that much spending money, but that is usually their own doing.

I may get blasted for saying this, but I think some in the ag sector have a skewed view of what it cost to live. I saw it when I was on the dairy and have read it on a different ag board... "the farm" purchases a lot of day to day items. Day to day items that an employee has to pay for out of the $10 an hour minus tax they are bringing home.

edit to add: I don't think kelpies4me or anyone who offers $10 an hour is taking advantage of anyone. If that is all the operation can support, you can't get blood from a stone. It's up to the applicant to decide what their time is worth.

Thank you!!Minimum wage in saskatchewan is $10.

 

[littlejoe]

What is minimum wage is the states?Nobody up here would even work for $10 a hour,and if you mentioned manual labour,they would quit before you could even hire them.

Local Tim Hortons pays $12 to start. $20 might get you temporary farm labor here but I doubt it. $10 wouldn't get a high school kid on the weekend.

I would hire the 50 year old and them pay him a decent return.

I don't know how you guys do it to begin with. As soon as i cross the line, i see newer iron and more of it.

Drinks in your podunk country bar are double what drinks in our podunk country bar are. Granted---you got better booze.

Your gas is higher and it comes from your country.

Going out in calgary is WAY more spendy. Snooze, cigarettes (and they're horrible!) is outrageous. Meals are higher, but portions are smaller.

Vehicles, tires, clothes, candy bars---it all costs way more, then you tax the hell outa it. (no sales tax, gst, none of that in montana)
Single friends of mine are in 50% tax bracket. I'm serious---I do not understand how people make it up there.

 

[Broke Cowboy]

What is minimum wage is the states?Nobody up here would even work for $10 a hour,and if you mentioned manual labour,they would quit before you could even hire them.

Local Tim Hortons pays $12 to start. $20 might get you temporary farm labor here but I doubt it. $10 wouldn't get a high school kid on the weekend.

I would hire the 50 year old and them pay him a decent return.

I don't know how you guys do it to begin with. As soon as i cross the line, i see newer iron and more of it.

Drinks in your podunk country bar are double what drinks in our podunk country bar are. Granted---you got better booze.

Your gas is higher and it comes from your country.

Going out in calgary is WAY more spendy. Snooze, cigarettes (and they're horrible!) is outrageous. Meals are higher, but portions are smaller.

Vehicles, tires, clothes, candy bars---it all costs way more, then you tax the hell outa it. (no sales tax, gst, none of that in montana)
Single friends of mine are in 50% tax bracket. I'm serious---I do not understand how people make it up there.

Either do I - and I live here.

BC

 

[kelpies4me]

Update:
I called some of the respondents and a few seemed good.

One has experience on a sheep farm (that's what we have), and turns out he used to work next door. He's 22.

The other has a new job with DEP that pays so low he just wants something for extra money, and is a self starter and weekends work.

I told the 22 year old that my first job was at that sheep farm- creosoting fences for $1.00 a board, (both sides/top and bottom). He was shocked- I think he sort of chuckled.

Anyway we shall see what we get, this is a part time job and I figure it will pay for a dinner out for this guy and his wife. But, it's what I can afford (sort of).

 

[burnt]

kelpies4me, I just reread this thread and the title you gave to it expresses something that is easily overlooked in the discussion that follows.

Your compassion has not gone unnoticed. May you be blessed for it.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ 10/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

What have you been smoking? I've had a daughter that is finishing her nursing/RN degree- and working as a CNA with a traveling nurse program- and working in areas like Scobey/Plentywood is one of the top dollar places to work...

Since they are so short handed- this winter my wife has spent a couple of weekends handling X-Ray/Nuclear Med call up there so the techs can have a day off-- and even tho one weekend she never got called she still made several thousand $ guaranteed contract- plus they put her up in a facility built just to house Drs/Techs- and paid mileage ....
And she enjoyed a restful weekend working on her sewing and crafts with bother from the Grandkids or me.... :wink: :lol:

$11.26 to be exact.

 

[Anonymous]

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ 10/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

What have you been smoking? I've had a daughter that is finishing her nursing/RN degree- and working as a CNA with a traveling nurse program- and working in areas like Scobey/Plentywood is one of the top dollar places to work...

Since they are so short handed- this winter my wife has spent a couple of weekends handling X-Ray/Nuclear Med call up there so the techs can have a day off-- and even tho one weekend she never got called she still made several thousand $ guaranteed contract- plus they put her up in a facility built just to house Drs/Techs- and paid mileage ....
And she enjoyed a restful weekend working on her sewing and crafts with no bother from the Grandkids or me.... :wink: :lol:

$11.26 to be exact.

That's more like it...

Your original post that I questioned tho was :

Big Muddy rancher wrote:

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ buck/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

 

[Big Muddy rancher]

What have you been smoking? I've had a daughter that is finishing her nursing/RN degree- and working as a CNA with a traveling nurse program- and working in areas like Scobey/Plentywood is one of the top dollar places to work...

Since they are so short handed- this winter my wife has spent a couple of weekends handling X-Ray/Nuclear Med call up there so the techs can have a day off-- and even tho one weekend she never got called she still made several thousand $ guaranteed contract- plus they put her up in a facility built just to house Drs/Techs- and paid mileage ....
And she enjoyed a restful weekend working on her sewing and crafts with no bother from the Grandkids or me.... :wink: :lol:

$11.26 to be exact.

That's more like it...

Your original post that I questioned tho was :

Big Muddy rancher wrote:

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ buck/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

Crazy thing is they have to pay travelers more to get them and if they would pay their local people a little more they could probably keep some of them and save money. :?

 

[Anonymous]

$11.26 to be exact.

That's more like it...

Your original post that I questioned tho was :

Big Muddy rancher wrote:

A CNA Nurses aid make just over $ buck/ hour at the hospital in Plentywood MT. The pay is quite a bit more in Saskatchewan.

Crazy thing is they have to pay travelers more to get them and if they would pay their local people a little more they could probably keep some of them and save money. :?

Yep could be... Scobeys about the same- they really rely on the travelers...