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Terminal sire or herd bull?

andybob

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MuscledTulibull.jpg

No subsidised feeding, produces 70-75 lb calves, would you use him to produce heifers, or do you consider him too heavily muscled? I have been having a discussion on this bull,and would value some wider opinion.
 

Dylan Biggs

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Hard to tell, probably would have more of an informed opinion if I saw some of his female progeny, depends also on the cows he is mated to.
Very difficult, well actually almost impossible to predict maternal value of female offspring from a visual appraisal of the bull alone, IMO. :)

Maybe I'm simply not skilled enough to pull it off. :)
 

andybob

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Here is the link to the breeders website, his information is in the herd sire section. The picture was sent by someone wanting my opinion based on his conformation. As a breed I consider a heat adapted damline, I felt this bull is too heavily developed.
http://www.alphaomegatulistud.co.za/
 

Dylan Biggs

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andybob said:
Here is the link to the breeders website, his information is in the herd sire section. The picture was sent by someone wanting my opinion based on his conformation. As a breed I consider a heat adapted damline, I felt this bull is too heavily developed.
http://www.alphaomegatulistud.co.za/

He has a nice flat cannon bone though and the extreme secondary masculine character he displays should transfer into fertile functional females if you follow the Bonsma train of appraisal. Chances are if he is an extreme example of the breed, an Outlier so to speak, he will throw to the mean anyway.

Only one way to know for sure. Are any of his daughters in production.
 

Denny

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Faster horses said:
I have been taught that bulls with that heavy muscling in the rear,
usually don't produce good females. But I'm old....

I like Sam Wylie's anology take a styrofoam coffee cup a cow should have the shape going from front to rear with the smaller end towards the front reverse the cup for the bull's heavy and deep through the shoulder's and heartgirth tapering back from there.

As far as the pictured bull goes I'd have to see his dam and some sisters.I also don't know what breed it is.
 

andybob

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Denny said:
I like Sam Wylie's anology take a styrofoam coffee cup a cow should have the shape going from front to rear with the smaller end towards the front reverse the cup for the bull's heavy and deep through the shoulder's and heartgirth tapering back from there.

As far as the pictured bull goes I'd have to see his dam and some sisters.I also don't know what breed it is.
He is a Tuli, thereare pictures on the link.
 

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