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Texas National Guard

jigs

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a neighbor said that Texas will begin to send it's national guard to the border of Mehico, said that the Mehican govt. is on the verge of collaps, and that the surge of illegals will be overwhelming.....

any of the southern folks here have any info on this?
 

TSR

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jigs said:
a neighbor said that Texas will begin to send it's national guard to the border of Mehico, said that the Mehican govt. is on the verge of collaps, and that the surge of illegals will be overwhelming.....

any of the southern folks here have any info on this?

If this is true I hope they will at least allow the TNG to have weapons and ammunition unlike under the past administration shen the guard was used along the border.
 

Mike

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TSR said:
jigs said:
a neighbor said that Texas will begin to send it's national guard to the border of Mehico, said that the Mehican govt. is on the verge of collaps, and that the surge of illegals will be overwhelming.....

any of the southern folks here have any info on this?

If this is true I hope they will at least allow the TNG to have weapons and ammunition unlike under the past administration shen the guard was used along the border.
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May 27, 2006 The head of the U.S. National Guard surprised Border Patrol officials, declaring some of the troops he will send to assist them will work in close proximity to the border, be armed and allowed to fire their weapons if necessary.

Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum

"Any soldier assigned to a mission where he would be placed in harm or danger, where his life would be threatened potentially, will in fact be armed and will have the inherent right of self-protection," Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum told the San Antonio Express-News Thursday.

Federal troops are scheduled to begin deployment to the four states on the Mexican border next week once the Guard and the Defense Department approve the memorandum of understanding that will define the mission's parameters. The document will also require signatures from the border governors.

Representatives from the National Guard and the offices of the governors of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California have been meeting in Phoenix this week to craft an agreement on the use of force. The talks have focused on "harmonization" of the different states' laws on self-defense and the use of deadly force, said Texas National Guard commander Army Maj. Gen. Charles G. Rodriguez.

The rules of engagement "will be the same in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas," said Blum.
 

Tex

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Mike said:
TSR said:
jigs said:
a neighbor said that Texas will begin to send it's national guard to the border of Mehico, said that the Mehican govt. is on the verge of collaps, and that the surge of illegals will be overwhelming.....

any of the southern folks here have any info on this?

If this is true I hope they will at least allow the TNG to have weapons and ammunition unlike under the past administration shen the guard was used along the border.
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May 27, 2006 The head of the U.S. National Guard surprised Border Patrol officials, declaring some of the troops he will send to assist them will work in close proximity to the border, be armed and allowed to fire their weapons if necessary.

Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum

"Any soldier assigned to a mission where he would be placed in harm or danger, where his life would be threatened potentially, will in fact be armed and will have the inherent right of self-protection," Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum told the San Antonio Express-News Thursday.

Federal troops are scheduled to begin deployment to the four states on the Mexican border next week once the Guard and the Defense Department approve the memorandum of understanding that will define the mission's parameters. The document will also require signatures from the border governors.

Representatives from the National Guard and the offices of the governors of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California have been meeting in Phoenix this week to craft an agreement on the use of force. The talks have focused on "harmonization" of the different states' laws on self-defense and the use of deadly force, said Texas National Guard commander Army Maj. Gen. Charles G. Rodriguez.

The rules of engagement "will be the same in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas," said Blum.

They need to capture some of these drug lords and their minions live to get at who is really behind the drug trade.
 

Mike

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They need to capture some of these drug lords and their minions live to get at who is really behind the drug trade

Then they'd be accused of torture for questioning the adversaries. :mad:
 

Tex

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Larrry said:
Then they'd be accused of torture for questioning the adversaries.

Did ya ever think, Any questioning of a left wing liberal would be torture

I don't think we need to torture anyone to get the information needed. If the consequences are not large enough for drug smugglers and dealers right now, the war on drugs was lost a long time ago and we have just been fed a bunch of empty rhetoric.

The Iran Contra Affair and subsequent Clinton and Bush jr. questionable practices in regard to the CIA and foreign govt. and illegal actions makes me question whether the top leadership in the U.S. can be trusted on these issues. From Wiki:

"Several investigations ensued, including those by the United States Congress and the three-man, Reagan-appointed Tower Commission. Neither found any evidence that President Reagan himself knew of the extent of the multiple programs.[1][2][5] In the end, fourteen administration officials were charged with crimes, and eleven convicted, including then-Secretary of Defense Caspar Weinberger.[9] They were all pardoned in the final days of the George H. W. Bush presidency, who had been vice-president at the time of the affair."

We have had presidents whose administrations are tainted with illegal activity and a propensity of the presidents to pardon these illegal activities.

One wonders if we can get the corruption out of our government or if it is just too institutionalized.

Like I said, if we don't have the legal tools to get these people to roll it might be that the powers above want people to believe there is a war on drugs while using its fruits for their own political purposes.

Wasn't Noreiga on the CIA payroll up until he stopped complete loyalty to the CIA?:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manuel_Noriega

History is so easy to forget while we get wrapped up in whether or not we like this prez. or don't like that one and paint them with such a wide brush.
 

Mike

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hypocritexposer said:
They need to capture some of these drug lords and their minions live to get at who is really behind the drug trade.

What role or responsibility needs to be put on the ones that buy the drugs?

Depends on whether they blow the whistle on who they bought them from.
 

Tex

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hypocritexposer said:
They need to capture some of these drug lords and their minions live to get at who is really behind the drug trade.

What role or responsibility needs to be put on the ones that buy the drugs?

I guess you got ole GW and Bill (I guess Obama also) on that one. It doesn't excuse any of the other mentioned above when these things are institutionalized in the CIA. It really isn't a wonder that people in other countries looking in are so skeptical of our government. Maybe we should be too.
 

TSR

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Mike said:
TSR said:
jigs said:
a neighbor said that Texas will begin to send it's national guard to the border of Mehico, said that the Mehican govt. is on the verge of collaps, and that the surge of illegals will be overwhelming.....

any of the southern folks here have any info on this?

If this is true I hope they will at least allow the TNG to have weapons and ammunition unlike under the past administration shen the guard was used along the border.
:???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???: :???:
May 27, 2006 The head of the U.S. National Guard surprised Border Patrol officials, declaring some of the troops he will send to assist them will work in close proximity to the border, be armed and allowed to fire their weapons if necessary.

Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum

"Any soldier assigned to a mission where he would be placed in harm or danger, where his life would be threatened potentially, will in fact be armed and will have the inherent right of self-protection," Lt. Gen. H. Steven Blum told the San Antonio Express-News Thursday.

Federal troops are scheduled to begin deployment to the four states on the Mexican border next week once the Guard and the Defense Department approve the memorandum of understanding that will define the mission's parameters. The document will also require signatures from the border governors.

Representatives from the National Guard and the offices of the governors of Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California have been meeting in Phoenix this week to craft an agreement on the use of force. The talks have focused on "harmonization" of the different states' laws on self-defense and the use of deadly force, said Texas National Guard commander Army Maj. Gen. Charles G. Rodriguez.

The rules of engagement "will be the same in Arizona, California, New Mexico and Texas," said Blum.

Mike I was basing my post on the NG personnel I saw on tv assisting the border patrol. They weren't armed as I recall. Because I remember saying to myself "what a crock why even send them". :(
 

Mike

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Mike I was basing my post on the NG personnel I saw on tv assisting the border patrol. They weren't armed as I recall.

The NG had a logistical and communications role in aiding the border patrol also, and weren't necessarily on the "front lines".

Those NG troops who worked 10-20 miles away didn't need to be armed and some fell for the MSM BS of NG troops not being armed, "Hook, Line, & Sinker".

You must have been one of those so easily duped by the media. :roll:
 
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