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The Audacity of Hate

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I stole this article of Matts off the Left in the West site- seems to fit some of the right wingnuts on this site...

The Audacity of Hate
by: Matt Singer
Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 13:14:53 PM MDT
There's a simply unbelievable story in USA Today about Dan Cooper, a Bitterroot gunsmith, whose livelihood came under fire from nutjobs across the country because he had the audacity to contribute to Barack Obama's campaign for President.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm
Cooper had a chance to talk one-on-one with Obama regarding gun ownership and is confident that his gun rights are safe under an Obama Presidency. But it seems pretty clear that as long as the lunatic fringe is as powerful on gun issues as it is that this talented gunsmith will have to look for other work.

The irony here is that this is happening at the same time that Obama's campaign is being attacked for not supporting freedom of speech.

In Missoula, I considered for some time not spending my money at businesses that I knew were owned by local Republicans. A political boycott had a certain schoolyard appeal. I ended up rejecting the idea, concluding that for all my disagreements with those folks, that they weren't a fundamental threat to my way of life and I'd be silly to treat them as though they were.

As time has gone on, I've become increasingly convinced that the ratcheted up nonsense coming from the far right over the insane dangers of electing Barack Obama will boil over soon as some surrogate goes on TV and ends up spewing, "But...but...but he's black!" Alternate possibility -- on election night, about 7 million far-right conservatives will have the first collective aneurysm in the known history of humanity when the networks call it for Obama.

There's a really bizarre paranoid fear out there regarding Obama that I just can't figure out. It's pretty hard to believe that it isn't racial. It's kind of like if the entire grassroots left was convinced not only that we didn't especially like John McCain and Sarah Palin but that John McCain is a Manchurian candidate and that Sarah Palin is a robot sent from the future with an accent programmed after watching Fargo. Or something. Crazy. Ya know?

I just don't get it.

I don't know what can be done for Dan Cooper. Maybe he'll find some way to keep making rifles and maybe some of those numerous sane hunters and shooters on the left, right, and center can buy his rifles to show respect for his right to his completely mainstream political beliefs.

Or maybe we should all just f**king hate each other.

Yeah, let's do that
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Sandhusker said:

Does that mean you burned your Cooper rifle last night- afraid it may be infected by the Black Plague :???: Afraid you could end up a Liberal :???: :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Yanuck

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Oldtimer said:
I stole this article of Matts off the Left in the West site- seems to fit some of the right wingnuts on this site...

The Audacity of Hate
by: Matt Singer
Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 13:14:53 PM MDT
There's a simply unbelievable story in USA Today about Dan Cooper, a Bitterroot gunsmith, whose livelihood came under fire from nutjobs across the country because he had the audacity to contribute to Barack Obama's campaign for President.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm
Cooper had a chance to talk one-on-one with Obama regarding gun ownership and is confident that his gun rights are safe under an Obama Presidency. But it seems pretty clear that as long as the lunatic fringe is as powerful on gun issues as it is that this talented gunsmith will have to look for other work.

The irony here is that this is happening at the same time that Obama's campaign is being attacked for not supporting freedom of speech.

In Missoula, I considered for some time not spending my money at businesses that I knew were owned by local Republicans. A political boycott had a certain schoolyard appeal. I ended up rejecting the idea, concluding that for all my disagreements with those folks, that they weren't a fundamental threat to my way of life and I'd be silly to treat them as though they were.

As time has gone on, I've become increasingly convinced that the ratcheted up nonsense coming from the far right over the insane dangers of electing Barack Obama will boil over soon as some surrogate goes on TV and ends up spewing, "But...but...but he's black!" Alternate possibility -- on election night, about 7 million far-right conservatives will have the first collective aneurysm in the known history of humanity when the networks call it for Obama.

There's a really bizarre paranoid fear out there regarding Obama that I just can't figure out. It's pretty hard to believe that it isn't racial. It's kind of like if the entire grassroots left was convinced not only that we didn't especially like John McCain and Sarah Palin but that John McCain is a Manchurian candidate and that Sarah Palin is a robot sent from the future with an accent programmed after watching Fargo. Or something. Crazy. Ya know?

I just don't get it.

I don't know what can be done for Dan Cooper. Maybe he'll find some way to keep making rifles and maybe some of those numerous sane hunters and shooters on the left, right, and center can buy his rifles to show respect for his right to his completely mainstream political beliefs.

Or maybe we should all just f**king hate each other.

Yeah, let's do that
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his choice to vote for Obama, people's choice not to buy his rifles because of it....whats the problem?
 
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Yanuck said:
Oldtimer said:
I stole this article of Matts off the Left in the West site- seems to fit some of the right wingnuts on this site...

The Audacity of Hate
by: Matt Singer
Fri Oct 31, 2008 at 13:14:53 PM MDT
There's a simply unbelievable story in USA Today about Dan Cooper, a Bitterroot gunsmith, whose livelihood came under fire from nutjobs across the country because he had the audacity to contribute to Barack Obama's campaign for President.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/election2008/2008-10-30-gun-ceo-ousted_N.htm
Cooper had a chance to talk one-on-one with Obama regarding gun ownership and is confident that his gun rights are safe under an Obama Presidency. But it seems pretty clear that as long as the lunatic fringe is as powerful on gun issues as it is that this talented gunsmith will have to look for other work.

The irony here is that this is happening at the same time that Obama's campaign is being attacked for not supporting freedom of speech.

In Missoula, I considered for some time not spending my money at businesses that I knew were owned by local Republicans. A political boycott had a certain schoolyard appeal. I ended up rejecting the idea, concluding that for all my disagreements with those folks, that they weren't a fundamental threat to my way of life and I'd be silly to treat them as though they were.

As time has gone on, I've become increasingly convinced that the ratcheted up nonsense coming from the far right over the insane dangers of electing Barack Obama will boil over soon as some surrogate goes on TV and ends up spewing, "But...but...but he's black!" Alternate possibility -- on election night, about 7 million far-right conservatives will have the first collective aneurysm in the known history of humanity when the networks call it for Obama.

There's a really bizarre paranoid fear out there regarding Obama that I just can't figure out. It's pretty hard to believe that it isn't racial. It's kind of like if the entire grassroots left was convinced not only that we didn't especially like John McCain and Sarah Palin but that John McCain is a Manchurian candidate and that Sarah Palin is a robot sent from the future with an accent programmed after watching Fargo. Or something. Crazy. Ya know?

I just don't get it.

I don't know what can be done for Dan Cooper. Maybe he'll find some way to keep making rifles and maybe some of those numerous sane hunters and shooters on the left, right, and center can buy his rifles to show respect for his right to his completely mainstream political beliefs.

Or maybe we should all just f**king hate each other.

Yeah, let's do that
.


his choice to vote for Obama, people's choice not to buy his rifles because of it....whats the problem?

You are correct- that is their right...But did you read the article? This is an organized right wingnut effort to chastise them just because of their political opinion and their free speech rights... Is that the direction you think the country should go- that just because someone doesn't believe exactly like you they should be demonized- and shunned from society :???:
Thats what scares me of this extremist right the Republican party has wrapped their cloak so tightly about in the last few years.... :(
 

Yanuck

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Yes I read the article, do you buy American made products when possible? you won't eat Canadian beef, you don't support NCBA because of your beliefs, you are a R-CALF supporter, are you shunned by society for your choices? It's no different than me not putting my money in Sandhusker's bank because he is an R-CALF supporter...I'm not and that is my choice not to support someone who is. I don't have a problem with that and I'm sure Sandhusker doesn't either.
 
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Yanuck said:
Yes I read the article, do you buy American made products when possible? you won't eat Canadian beef, you don't support NCBA because of your beliefs, you are a R-CALF supporter, are you shunned by society for your choices? It's no different than me not putting my money in Sandhusker's bank because he is an R-CALF supporter...I'm not and that is my choice not to support someone who is. I don't have a problem with that and I'm sure Sandhusker doesn't either.

No way the same- I won't eat Canadian beef because you have an outbreak of BSE going on up there...What is it now 15 in a herd 1/7th the size of the US herd :???:

I do business with some NCBA folks daily-some I don't know what they belong to...Some I know belong to both NCBA and R-CALF- and maybe even USCA...Some belong to MSGA- others MCA...I do business with staunch Repubs or staunch Dems altho I don't follow either of their drumbeats anymore- and we agree to disagree...Many I don't know what party they belong to or who they donated to or voted for and could care less...

So you are so narrow you won't deal with Sandhuskers Bank- because one person in it belongs to R-CALF :???:
 

Yanuck

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Oldtimer said:
Yanuck said:
Yes I read the article, do you buy American made products when possible? you won't eat Canadian beef, you don't support NCBA because of your beliefs, you are a R-CALF supporter, are you shunned by society for your choices? It's no different than me not putting my money in Sandhusker's bank because he is an R-CALF supporter...I'm not and that is my choice not to support someone who is. I don't have a problem with that and I'm sure Sandhusker doesn't either.

No way the same- I won't eat Canadian beef because you have an outbreak of BSE going on up there...What is it now 15 in a herd 1/7th the size of the US herd :???:

I do business with some NCBA folks daily-some I don't know what they belong to...Some I know belong to both NCBA and R-CALF- and maybe even USCA...Some belong to MSGA- others MCA...I do business with staunch Repubs or staunch Dems altho I don't follow either of their drumbeats anymore- and we agree to disagree...Many I don't know what party they belong to or who they donated to or voted for and could care less...

So you are so narrow you won't deal with Sandhuskers Bank- because one person in it belongs to R-CALF :???:

and all are CHOICES made by you....are you shunned by society? people can support or buy from whoever they want, you didn't seem to think it was that bad when Joe the Plumber's life gone over with a fine tooth comb by the media after he asked Obama a question, Obama and Biden both mocked the guy....nice!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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Yanuck said:
Oldtimer said:
Yanuck said:
Yes I read the article, do you buy American made products when possible? you won't eat Canadian beef, you don't support NCBA because of your beliefs, you are a R-CALF supporter, are you shunned by society for your choices? It's no different than me not putting my money in Sandhusker's bank because he is an R-CALF supporter...I'm not and that is my choice not to support someone who is. I don't have a problem with that and I'm sure Sandhusker doesn't either.

No way the same- I won't eat Canadian beef because you have an outbreak of BSE going on up there...What is it now 15 in a herd 1/7th the size of the US herd :???:

I do business with some NCBA folks daily-some I don't know what they belong to...Some I know belong to both NCBA and R-CALF- and maybe even USCA...Some belong to MSGA- others MCA...I do business with staunch Repubs or staunch Dems altho I don't follow either of their drumbeats anymore- and we agree to disagree...Many I don't know what party they belong to or who they donated to or voted for and could care less...

So you are so narrow you won't deal with Sandhuskers Bank- because one person in it belongs to R-CALF :???:

and all are CHOICES made by you....are you shunned by society? people can support or buy from whoever they want, you didn't seem to think it was that bad when Joe the Plumber's life gone over with a fine tooth comb by the media after he asked Obama a question, Obama and Biden both mocked the guy....nice!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

McCain's who put old Joe out to be a model citizen- and misrepresented him...He should have vetted him a little better- just like his VP candidate..

So Yanuck in this facist society you would like to have- do you think we should publish every name/business that supports/donates to a certain candidate- and then if the opposition gets in we should just eliminate them :???:
 

Yanuck

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Oldtimer said:
Yanuck said:
Oldtimer said:
No way the same- I won't eat Canadian beef because you have an outbreak of BSE going on up there...What is it now 15 in a herd 1/7th the size of the US herd :???:

I do business with some NCBA folks daily-some I don't know what they belong to...Some I know belong to both NCBA and R-CALF- and maybe even USCA...Some belong to MSGA- others MCA...I do business with staunch Repubs or staunch Dems altho I don't follow either of their drumbeats anymore- and we agree to disagree...Many I don't know what party they belong to or who they donated to or voted for and could care less...

So you are so narrow you won't deal with Sandhuskers Bank- because one person in it belongs to R-CALF :???:

and all are CHOICES made by you....are you shunned by society? people can support or buy from whoever they want, you didn't seem to think it was that bad when Joe the Plumber's life gone over with a fine tooth comb by the media after he asked Obama a question, Obama and Biden both mocked the guy....nice!!! :roll: :roll: :roll:

McCain's who put old Joe out to be a model citizen- and misrepresented him...He should have vetted him a little better- just like his VP candidate..

So Yanuck in this facist society you would like to have- do you think we should publish every name/business that supports/donates to a certain candidate- and then if the opposition gets in we should just eliminate them :???:

OT who ever said I wanted a facist society?? :???: you like those "ist" words huh? racist, facist, elitist... I believe that donors names are published.... well in everyones campaign but Obama's!! if I choose not to do business with someone who has different views than I, is that not my choice? is it not yours? just like its Dan Coopers business that he supports Barack Obama, and donated to his campaign, but I'm not going to help his business so he can donate money to help him get elected. I'm sure you're not going to run out and buy Haliburton stock to help Dick Cheney's retirement are you?
 

RobertMac

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OT, are you going to be in favor of Obama/Reid/Pelosi shutting down talk radio?????

Joe asked Obama a question and Obama's people went out to destory the man.

A news angor asked Biden tough questions...the Obama canpaign shut them out and Obama's people went out to destory the woman.

These are direct attacks on the First Amendment...that's what the country will get with Obama!!! And you think Bush doesn't respect the Constitution!!! You poor old fool.
 
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RobertMac said:
OT, are you going to be in favor of Obama/Reid/Pelosi shutting down talk radio?????

I don't believe in stifling any free speech...Even those that spout the radical rightwingnut hatemongering have that right...Just as the far left nutcases have to put out there views...

What I fear most is the government censorship as was promoted/practiced by GW Bush....
 

RobertMac

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Oldtimer said:
RobertMac said:
OT, are you going to be in favor of Obama/Reid/Pelosi shutting down talk radio?????

I don't believe in stifling any free speech...Even those that spout the radical rightwingnut hatemongering have that right...Just as the far left nutcases have to put out there views...

What I fear most is the government censorship as was promoted/practiced by GW Bush....
Yet you will vote for someone that will do all he can to shut up any dissenting opinion...as has been proven in this campaign.

Your hypocrisy has stripped you of any credibility!!!!!
 

Sandhusker

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If you fear government censorship, why didn't you condemn the Obama campaign when they tried to strongarm radionstations from broadcasting ads and interviews that were detrimental to Chairman Maobama?
 
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