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The Borowitz Report

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Anonymous

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January 30, 2013

N.R.A. Defends Right to Own Politicians

Posted by Andy Borowitz


WASHINGTON (The Borowitz Report)—In testimony before the Senate Judiciary Committee today, National Rifle Association C.E.O. Wayne LaPierre warned that the N.R.A. would vigorously oppose any legislation that “limits the sale, purchase, or ownership of politicians.”

“Politicians pose no danger to the public if used correctly,” said Mr. LaPierre, who claims to have over two hundred politicians in his personal collection. “Everyone hears about the bad guys in Congress. Well, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a vote is a good guy with a vote. I’m proud to be the owner of many of those guys.”


Mr. LaPierre’s comments drew a sharp rebuke from Carol Foyler, a politician-control advocate who has spent the past twelve years lobbying for stricter limits on the sale of politicians.

“Right now, a man like Wayne LaPierre can walk right into Congress and buy any politician he wants,” she said. “There’s no background check, no waiting period. And so hundreds of politicians are falling into the hands of people who are unstable and, quite frankly, dangerous.”

In addition to limiting the sale of politicians, Ms. Foyler said, it is time for society to take a look at the “sheer number” of politicians in the U.S.: “There’s no doubt that we would be safer if there were fewer of them.”

For his part, the N.R.A. leader ended his testimony by serving notice that he would “resist any attempt” to take away the hundreds of elected officials he says are legally his.

As if to illustrate that point, he clutched Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) close to his chest and bellowed, “From my cold, dead hands.”
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Read more: http://www.newyorker.com/online/blogs/borowitzreport/2013/01/nra-defends-right-to-own-politicians.html#ixzz2JTP62hin

Boy did he hit the nail on the head with this one as far as how D.C. operates ....
 

littlejoe

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okfarmer said:
who was selling senate seats????

Barry's seat went for sale didn't it?

Yuppers! Not sure if chicago was ahead of the curve or if most are bought before even being elected---did hear today that's there's actually 2 representatives and one senator that might still be available----but you can hear all sorts of stuff.....
 

Whitewing

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Yeah, corruption in those who hold power will always be with us.

It's like those stories one hears of coroners being suspicious about cause of death in automobile accidents and filling in the blank with accidental when, in fact, they really thought cause of death should be listed as suicide.

Actually though, I tend not to believe such wild tales.
 

Larrry

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Before you all become drama queens in the fashion of Tam- I'm as pro-gun as you can get...
BUT
the NRA is the best example of how the corporate world and lobbyiests run D.C. politics... Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group-- which then uses that money to buy politicians thru their donations and ratings- and now goes to D.C. and says we need lots of armed (guns) guards in every school- which fits in perfectly with the manufacturers agenda of selling more guns..... :wink: And us taxpayers will be paying for all those guns and guards... :(

One of the reasons I have to take old Waynes testimony with a grain of salt....But I wonder how many of those "good old boy" cut all taxes folks on the Hill will be backing this "little tax".... :???:
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group--

Not that I'd have any reason to ever doubt a word you typed OT, but could you provide some sort of evidence of that assertion?

And I'm not talking about general donations to the NRA by gun manufacturers.....no, "many giving a % of the sales directly to the group".

That part.
 
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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group--

Not that I'd have any reason to ever doubt a word you typed OT, but could you provide some sort of evidence of that assertion?

And I'm not talking about general donations to the NRA by gun manufacturers.....no, "many giving a % of the sales directly to the group".

That part.



The gun makers Sturm, Ruger & Co.; Remington Arms Co. in Madison, North Carolina; and Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC) all contributed this year, according to news releases.

Sturm Ruger, of Southport, Connecticut, announced a goal in May to sell 1 million firearms by March 31 and donate $1 for each sold to the NRA.
The company said last month that it expects to contribute $556,100 by Dec. 31. Remington became a “defender” sponsor of an NRA fundraising program, a designation that involves a $35,000 donation. Springfield, Massachusetts- based Smith & Wesson signed on as the “exclusive pistol sponsor” of an NRA TV show; it’s unclear how much the company paid.

One of the NRA’s 27 websites calls such donors “corporate partners,” while another says the association is “not affiliated with any firearm or ammunition manufacturers or with any business that deals in guns and ammunition.”

Apparently you never watch any of the gun tv shows-- as many of the advertisements say they will donate to NRA- or pay a % of your NRA membership if you buy their product...
 

Mike

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Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group--

Not that I'd have any reason to ever doubt a word you typed OT, but could you provide some sort of evidence of that assertion?

And I'm not talking about general donations to the NRA by gun manufacturers.....no, "many giving a % of the sales directly to the group".

That part.

There is no pre-condition set by any gun manufacturer to give a certain percentage of it's income to the NRA.

There are, however, several Distributors (Wholesalers) & some Retailers that round-out the sale to the nearest dollar and give the change to the NRA.

The gun lobby works no different than any other major organization.

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/lobbying.php?ind=G2300
 

Larrry

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Oldtimer said:
Before you all become drama queens in the fashion of Tam- I'm as pro-gun as you can get...
BUT
the NRA is the best example of how the corporate world and lobbyiests run D.C. politics... Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group-- which then uses that money to buy politicians thru their donations and ratings- and now goes to D.C. and says we need lots of armed (guns) guards in every school- which fits in perfectly with the manufacturers agenda of selling more guns..... :wink: And us taxpayers will be paying for all those guns and guards... :(

Your statement before the "BUT" and after are contradictory because the NRA is not doing anything unethical or compromising our rights or the safety of the US population. "BUT" the restrictions that you go along on the 2nd do just that.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth
 

Whitewing

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Oldtimer said:
Whitewing said:
Oldtimer said:
Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group--

Not that I'd have any reason to ever doubt a word you typed OT, but could you provide some sort of evidence of that assertion?

And I'm not talking about general donations to the NRA by gun manufacturers.....no, "many giving a % of the sales directly to the group".

That part.



The gun makers Sturm, Ruger & Co.; Remington Arms Co. in Madison, North Carolina; and Smith & Wesson Holding Corp. (SWHC) all contributed this year, according to news releases.

Sturm Ruger, of Southport, Connecticut, announced a goal in May to sell 1 million firearms by March 31 and donate $1 for each sold to the NRA.
The company said last month that it expects to contribute $556,100 by Dec. 31. Remington became a “defender” sponsor of an NRA fundraising program, a designation that involves a $35,000 donation. Springfield, Massachusetts- based Smith & Wesson signed on as the “exclusive pistol sponsor” of an NRA TV show; it’s unclear how much the company paid.

One of the NRA’s 27 websites calls such donors “corporate partners,” while another says the association is “not affiliated with any firearm or ammunition manufacturers or with any business that deals in guns and ammunition.”

Apparently you never watch any of the gun tv shows-- as many of the advertisements say they will donate to NRA- or pay a % of your NRA membership if you buy their product...

I live in Venezuela OT. My television has about 10 channels, and I can promise that none of them carry gun tv shows. :roll:

So, Ruger announced a program of donating $1 to the NRA for each firearm sale and that qualifies as "many donating a % of sales". Okay.

Any donation by a company obviously represents some percentage of sales and I didn't question that assertion. I questioned the wording of "many giving a % of sales directly to the group" which would lead one to believe that there were programs such as: this year XYZ will donate 5% of its sales of firearms directly to the NRA.

I doubted such programs existed for "many gun manufacturers", and based on your aswer, it appears I was correct.
 

Mike

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You are talking out of both sides of your mouth

That's par for him.......................

But, Buckwheat & Feinstein are the biggest promoters of gun sales this country has ever seen!
 
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This is not to say that the NRA does not benefit from gun sales. It does. Not only does it receive contributions from willing gun customers at the point of purchase, but gun manufacturers are major contributors to the NRA. Smith & Wesson in May became a member of the NRA’s “Golden Ring of Freedom,” which is for donors who contribute more than $1 million. In 2008, the Beretta Group — another “Golden Ring of Freedom” member — exceeded $2 million in donations.

In one case, the gun manufacturer Sturm, Ruger & Company tied its donations directly to gun sales in a program called the “Million Gun Challenge.” According to an April 2012 press release, Ruger promised to donate $1 to the NRA-ILA for each gun it sold over the course of a year, from May 2011 to May 2012. The “Million Gun Challenge” exceeded its goal and raised $1.25 million.
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The NRA Foundation and the NRA Institute of Legislative Action each operate separate fundraising programs that allow gun customers at participating gun stores to “round up” the purchase price to the nearest dollar as a contribution. Some customers may be asked instead, depending on the company making the sale, to “add a buck for shooting’s future” — much in the same way that some food stores ask for small donations to fight cancer or hunger when customers check out.
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The NRA-ILA, which is the lobbying arm of the NRA, operates a “round-up” program with fewer participating companies, although it has been in existence for longer. Its program was the brainchild of gun store owner Larry Potterfield, the founder and CEO of Midway USA in Missouri. In a video on his website, Potterfield says he started the program in 1992 and the money raised from his customers goes into the “Endowment for the Protection of the Second Amendment.” A few other companies have since joined the program, but Midway customers are still the largest contributors by far. In a Dec. 7, 2012, press release, the company said its customers have donated $7.6 million to the NRA lobbying group since 1992. The program has a balance of nearly $9.5 million, including contributions from gun customers at other stores, the press release says.

Potterfield seems to have a new pitch every time I hear him :wink: (A hell of a good low key salesman)..

Even our local Sporting goods store had a deal a few weeks ago where for each gun purchased or ordered so much went to the NRA...Its done all the day...

So does this heavy money corporate influence give you the best unbiased answers on how to solve these mass shootings :???:
 

Mike

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So does this heavy money corporate influence give you the best unbiased answers on how to solve these mass shootings

This money originates from the everyday ordinary gun buying customer.

Plus, this money is optional. Buyers can decide not to pay it and not buy a gun if they so choose.

When an advertisement announces a portion goes to the NRA, it's all up front & above board "Capitalism".

Are you as stupid as you seem?
 
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Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Before you all become drama queens in the fashion of Tam- I'm as pro-gun as you can get...
BUT
the NRA is the best example of how the corporate world and lobbyiests run D.C. politics... Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group-- which then uses that money to buy politicians thru their donations and ratings- and now goes to D.C. and says we need lots of armed (guns) guards in every school- which fits in perfectly with the manufacturers agenda of selling more guns..... :wink: And us taxpayers will be paying for all those guns and guards... :(

Your statement before the "BUT" and after are contradictory because the NRA is not doing anything unethical or compromising our rights or the safety of the US population. "BUT" the restrictions that you go along on the 2nd do just that.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth

Do you not ever look at an issue from both sides :???:

Do you not look at the reasoning behind why someone would testify the way they did/would :???:

You're starting to sound like a Soapweed.... Don't think for yourself--just pick a cult to follow- and then blindly agree with whatever the leadership tells you :roll: :wink: :p :lol: :(
 

littlejoe

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Larrry said:
Oldtimer said:
Before you all become drama queens in the fashion of Tam- I'm as pro-gun as you can get...
BUT
the NRA is the best example of how the corporate world and lobbyiests run D.C. politics... Gun manufacturers are one of the biggest supporters of the NRA- many giving a % of their sales directly to the group-- which then uses that money to buy politicians thru their donations and ratings- and now goes to D.C. and says we need lots of armed (guns) guards in every school- which fits in perfectly with the manufacturers agenda of selling more guns..... :wink: And us taxpayers will be paying for all those guns and guards... :(

Your statement before the "BUT" and after are contradictory because the NRA is not doing anything unethical or compromising our rights or the safety of the US population. "BUT" the restrictions that you go along on the 2nd do just that.
You are talking out of both sides of your mouth

"But" is often a 'pivotal word' negating anything that preceeded it. Back to my novel "journey of a private E-deuce"
 

Steve

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So does this heavy money corporate influence give you the best unbiased answers on how to solve these mass shootings

those with guns have been painted by the left as a fringe group,.. and are attempting to lay blame on US for the shooting,...
for those few not blaming Us,.. they are at the least trying to make us pay for the actions of the shooter... and infringe our 2nd amendment rights.

the NRA like a high priced defense attorney is looking out for our rights.. something the left has failed to do...

maybe we should call it a second amendment legal defense fund instead..
 
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Steve said:
So does this heavy money corporate influence give you the best unbiased answers on how to solve these mass shootings

those with guns have been painted by the left as a fringe group,.. and are attempting to lay blame on US for the shooting,...
for those few not blaming Us,.. they are at the least trying to make us pay for the actions of the shooter... and infringe our 2nd amendment rights.

the NRA like a high priced defense attorney is looking out for our rights.. something the left has failed to do...

maybe we should call it a second amendment legal defense fund instead..

LaPierre insisted Wednesday that the current gun check system didn't work, so expanding it would only create an unmanageable government bureaucracy instead of reducing gun crime in the country.

"The fact is the law right now is a failure, the way it's working," he said. "The fact is that you have 76,000 some people that have been denied under the present law. Only 44 were prosecuted. You're letting them go. They're walking the streets."

Instead, he called for better enforcement of all existing gun laws and creating "an immediate blanket of security around our children" by putting armed guards at all the nation's schools.

So do you then support the government (taxpayers) putting an immediate blanket of security around our children" by putting armed guards at all the nation's schools?

I wonder how many $ in gun sales that would generate arming all these "armed guards" :???:

How many Billions $ would that cost taxpayers :???:

I have a tough time accepting LaPierres' testimony as being an unbiased recommendation ...
 

Mike

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Just put "Grandpa" or "Uncle Joe" walking the floors of these schools as an "armed guard". They already have a 12 gauge shotgun and would do it for little or nothing.

They have the kid's best interests at heart, and would be a huge threat to those "Zombied" out spoiled brats..................

It ain't like "Rambo" is going in to these schools to shoot. :roll: :roll:

Why do we always make things so complicated?
 

hopalong

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at another site oldtimer gets his butt handed to him again by facts

Q: Is it true that 85 percent of all the children killed by guns in the world are killed in the United States?

A: No. This statistic, misused by the husband of former Rep. Gabrielle Giffords, refers to a study of 23 high-income countries in 2003 that made up less than 14 percent of the world’s population. A coauthor of that study says the percentage of children killed in the world who lived in the U.S. is “well, well, well under 85 percent.”


Oldtimer malkes these post on every site that i know of and gets his rather substatanial BUTT handed to hime on them too...I feel he has a BIGGGGGGGG problem trying to make himself feel BIG and failing but does not realize it :( :( :(

Too bad oldtimer but you are a failure :roll:
 
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