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The Effects of an Oil Boom

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Booms bring good and bad--Heres some of the issues that are effecting the Law Enforcement...We are getting more and more NIMBY's in the area that don't want the oil boom changing their town- especially since the Sidney teachers kidnapping/murder...
Just on Tuesday a BNSF Z train (thru train) hit another semi on the tracks by Bainville and shut down the tracks for almost a day....

OIL ISSUES - - JANUARY 2012 (Unknown Author) A meeting was held of the ND Sheriff’s & Deputies Association in Bismarck, as part of this meeting we had an opportunity to sit down with Law Enforcement from western ND to discuss what they are going through with oil impact. Here is a summary of points made:
1. Currently ...there are a total of 84 companies involved in the oil industry in western ND.
2. It takes between 2000 and 2200 semi loads of water per well. Currently there are 258 wells in progress with so many scheduled it is hard to determine the exact amount.
3. Traffic accidents, especially fatal traffic accidents are of very high concern. At one location on Highway 85 south of Williston, a traffic count was conducted in October of 2011. In one 24 hour period of time there where 29,000 vehicle through the intersection looked at with 60% of the traffic being semi’s.
4. Traffic is typically backed up for ½ to ¾ of a mile. One of the guys stated that one day last week he sat at an intersection on Highway 85 for about 30 minutes to get a big enough opening to cross over.
5. They have closed the weigh scale house because it was causing such a traffic jam that it was closing the roadway.
6. Rent in Williston currently is: $ 2000 for a one bedroom to $ 3400 for a three bedroom.
7. They have no more hook ups for campers any where in the area.
8. Williams County allows three campers per farmstead, the farmers almost all have three campers on their property and are charging $ 800 per camper per month for rent.
9. Wal Mart in Williston no longer stocks shelves, they bring out pallets of merchandise at night, and set it in the isles, people then take off the pallets what they want.
10. On 1-1-12, the Williston Wal Mart had 148 campers overnight in their parking lot.
11. Willams County wrecked a pickup and ended up bringing it to Bismarck for repairs because there no available body shops to do the work. Williams County has purchased a trailer and has started to bring vehicles to the Bismarck area for repairs. Willaims County took a pickup in for ball joints and front brakes, the shop charged them $ 2800 for the repairs.
12. Williston and Williams County now produces more taxable sales than any other area in ND.
13. The Williams County jail has increased booking by 150%. With a 100% increase in inmate population. Bonds of $ 5k to $ 10 K are typically paid with cash out of pocket. The Williams County Sheriff stated that a couple of week ago he received a $ 63,000 bond in cash carried into the jail in a plastic Wal Mart bag.
14. Williams County Sheriff’s Department has more than doubled in staff over the last two years, they are now buying trailer houses that come up for sale to rent to newly hired deputies.
15. Williams County new starting salary with the academy is $ 46,000 plus 100% of all benefits paid.
16. They are in a continuous hiring cycle, they have no set budget at this time, the Sheriff has been told to manage his office to the best of his abilities and keep the Commission updated, but do not worry about the budget.
17. The Williston McDonalds just announced that they will pay $ 15 an hour, a $ 500 immediate sign on bonus and a single medical plan paid for.

18. The restaurants are full and with limited staff to work in them they usually just have the drive through open. The restaurants that have inside seating are now an hour wait at all times.
19. Law Enforcement in the Williams County area cannot provide training to staff due to time constraints and no location to hold training.
20. The local Motel 6 in Williston now rents rooms for $ 129.95 per night. 21. Law Enforcement no longer does any proactive work (school programs, community services, house checks) they do very little traffic related issues as well, they just go from call to call. Bars fights are one of the biggest issues.
22. Other law enforcement issues include the strip clubs. The local clubs have now started what is called “babe buses”. These buses go out to areas and pick up people and bus them back and forth to the strip clubs, the buses have poles on them as well as live entertainment.
23. Drug problems are immense, and they are seeing narcotics that they have never seen in the area before, like black tar heroin.
24. The civil process section of the Sheriff’s Department use to average 1800 paper a year, they are now doing 4500 processes a year.
25. Law Enforcement said that they make as many Driving under the influence arrest at 10 am as they do at midnight.
26. Illegal aliens have become a huge problem, especially getting the proper authorities do remove them from the Country.
27. The current thought from the oil companies is that the area will continue to grow as it has over the past two years for the next five years and stay for ten years. At the end of the ten years they feel the communities will drop in population somewhat.
28. The current thought is that the oil companies will be drilling wells on every 1280 acres of leased land, this way they have tied up the land and do not have to release the property.
29. The Williston General Motors dealership has now become the number 1 seller of Corvettes in the upper Midwest.
30. The bigger oil companies are doing very well in hiring good people. They run checks and make sure the people they hire are drug free; it is the smaller companies that are having trouble-hiring people that will look the other way on hiring issues.
31. They said they do not know anybody anymore. The Sheriff of Williams County he use to be able to go to Wal Mart and not be walk very far without knowing somebody, now he does not know any of the people in there.
32. Many of the local citizens are taking retirement and moving out of the area.
33. They have an extreme amount of alcohol abuse going on. They have more calls than ever of drunk people trying to get into houses, to find out they are at the wrong place.
34. Minot population has grown by a projected 9000 people since the completion of the census. Minot is expecting to reach a population of 75,000 in the nest five years.
35. Trinity Hospital in Minot has just hired 115 nurses from the Philippians to work at the hospital, as they cannot get enough local nurses to apply.
 

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oldtimer- will the LEO's complain when the tax dollars roll in and their wish lists become a reality?

yes we all experience some changes in our lives but you just adapt- why should LEO's be any different?

last winters conditions made me change and adapt to the situation at hand, whining about it didn't do any good.
 

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Notice it says """"unknown author"""" there is no link how do we know that oldtimer did not write all this himself???

As long as oldtimer does not drive after 10:00 pm he should be safe from #25 :wink:
 

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You're slipping hoppy. I expected you to come back with a quote for rental housing costs for Williston Florida again.
 

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I think we all know a BOOM of any sort changes the lifestyle of the area it happens in. Alberta has faced this a few times and like North Dakota we are experiencing it here in southern Saskatchewan. The people that are affected by it the most seems to be the land owners that can't take advantage of it and the people on fixed incomes. It does change a way of life that many that live here enjoyed and don't really want to give it up.
 

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Bullhauler said:
You're slipping hoppy. I expected you to come back with a quote for rental housing costs for Williston Florida again.


Nah one screw up is all I am allowed when it comes to oldtimer, unlike you I do not run and hide when I mess up!!!
Nor do i MAKE 4 A.m CALLS and then hang up, nor do I threaten people and hide behind my screen. I also do not post other peoples name and address on forums such as this one. like my esteemed S.D. hauler of bull crap
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Lonecowboy said:
oldtimer- will the LEO's complain when the tax dollars roll in and their wish lists become a reality?

yes we all experience some changes in our lives but you just adapt- why should LEO's be any different?

last winters conditions made me change and adapt to the situation at hand, whining about it didn't do any good.

14. Williams County Sheriff’s Department has more than doubled in staff over the last two years, they are now buying trailer houses that come up for sale to rent to newly hired deputies.
15. Williams County new starting salary with the academy is $ 46,000 plus 100% of all benefits paid.
16. They are in a continuous hiring cycle, they have no set budget at this time, the Sheriff has been told to manage his office to the best of his abilities and keep the Commission updated, but do not worry about the budget.

It looks to me like they already have the ability to get anything they want..

And historically- ND's law enforcement equipment, buildings, and logistical capabilities have long been far ahead of most MT Depts...

Don't preach at me about adapting- I've been one of the biggest backers of the oil industry coming in, reminding folks that we are a boom or bust county and have survived before- from homesteader days, to the dam days, thru the AFB- and that now we will survive this....

There have been several similar meetings in MT (some attended by Senator Testor) to present some of the upcoming issues to local governments, Law Enforcement, and community leaders to make them aware of the issues they could expect and plan ahead for when it comes- not be caught with their pants down like ND was...

The old 6 P's:

Prior Planning Prevents Pi$$ Poor Performance

But pistol sales have went out of sight in the last week or two- especially on small pistols women can pack in their purse or vehicle easily...
 

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I talked with an over the road trucker a couple weeks ago, before the teachers disappearance, and he told me that even though he was logged out on hours he pulled out and left the area he was in because of all the trouble and bad things going on over there.

Heard through the EMS that the volunteer departments are having trouble staying staffed and they are running 24/7.
 

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Is it not a FACT oldtimer that gun sales statistically go up in this time of year?????

Or could it be that a lot of fear mongering is going on by ex LEO's ?????
 
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I Luv Herfrds said:
I talked with an over the road trucker a couple weeks ago, before the teachers disappearance, and he told me that even though he was logged out on hours he pulled out and left the area he was in because of all the trouble and bad things going on over there.

Heard through the EMS that the volunteer departments are having trouble staying staffed and they are running 24/7.

Even as far west as we are- everyone is having problems getting help...Lots of local folks- that still live here- now work in the oil fields.. They can't turn down the big dollars...I feed cows for a neighbor 4 days a week- that is working in the fields down by Sidney...

Bad enough the schoolteacher- but just the next day there was a reported abduction attempt near Forsyth- and then another gal turned up missing from a SD truckstop... She showed up- and said she was kidnapped, robbed, and thrown in a ravine...
It has really got the local ladies pretty jumpy...
 

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What the trucker told me is that the women working at mcdonalds are not allowed to go outside alone to throw the trash away or even walk to their cars in the parking lots. they are escorted by 2 or 3 male co-workers.

that is scarey.
 

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hopalong said:
Bullhauler said:
You're slipping hoppy. I expected you to come back with a quote for rental housing costs for Williston Florida again.


Nah one screw up is all I am allowed when it comes to oldtimer, unlike you I do not run and hide when I mess up!!!
Nor do i MAKE 4 A.m CALLS and then hang up, nor do I threaten people and hide behind my screen. I also do not post other peoples name and address on forums such as this one. like my esteemed S.D. hauler of bull crap
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I have never called you at 4 A.M. or any other time of the day. If I wanted to call an old fossil like you I would do it at 8:30 P.M. I would be sure to wake you up at that hour.

How about showing where I posted your name and address??? You were harassing people on here for years before you outed yourself. If Macon had any balls a worthless ankle biter like yourself would have been banned years ago.

I will have to call you someday just so you can start telling the truth instead of LYING all the time. In the meantime you can go fornicate yourself.
 

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Bullhauler said:
hopalong said:
Bullhauler said:
You're slipping hoppy. I expected you to come back with a quote for rental housing costs for Williston Florida again.


Nah one screw up is all I am allowed when it comes to oldtimer, unlike you I do not run and hide when I mess up!!!
Nor do i MAKE 4 A.m CALLS and then hang up, nor do I threaten people and hide behind my screen. I also do not post other peoples name and address on forums such as this one. like my esteemed S.D. hauler of bull crap
:wink: :wink:

I have never called you at 4 A.M. or any other time of the day. If I wanted to call an old fossil like you I would do it at 8:30 P.M. I would be sure to wake you up at that hour.

WE know this because YOU say so????? YOu who has no ID? YOU N that we do not believe??? Come on humper is that the best you can do???


I will have to call you someday just so you can start telling the truth instead of LYING all the time. In the meantime you can go fornicate yourself.

I if were to fornicate myself i would still be a better man than a bullhumper and knee crawler to every person of the same sex that looked at him
 

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