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The Emporer's New Clothes Are Showing

Mike

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Since President Obama never had to answer to the press as candidate Obama, yesterday's explosion in the WH press room was more than interesting and should bring smiles to us conservatives. Here was the newly minted U.S. president taking what he thought was a lovely stroll into the lion's den and finally something happened: the press actually asked Obama a real question:

As the Politico documents:

Asked how he could reconcile a strict ban on lobbyists in his administration with a Deputy Defense Secretary nominee who lobbied for Raytheon, Obama interrupted with a knowing smile on his face.

"Ahh, see," he said, "I came down here to visit. See this is what happens. I can't end up visiting with you guys and shaking hands if I'm going to get grilled every time I come down here."

Pressed further by the Politico reporter about his Pentagon nominee, William J. Lynn III, Obama turned more serious, putting his hand on the reporter's shoulder and staring him in the eye.

"Alright, come on" he said, with obvious irritation in his voice. "We will be having a press conference at which time you can feel free to [ask] questions. Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys - that's all I was trying to do."

At that moment the president surely awoke to the fact that he was president and no, President Bush was no longer around to get his teeth kicked in. Despite the media's love affair with the Democrats and for this president, in particular, many in the media still want a story and will expect real answers from the nation's president.
Let's hope that real questions for this president continue.
 

gcreekrch

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It's my guess that your new "czar" will be answering less and doing more as time goes on.

I hope I am proven wrong for the American peoples sake.
 

RobertMac

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Pres. Obama said:
Right now, I just wanted to say hello and introduce myself to you guys - that's all I was trying to do."
Didn't candidate Obama have the chance to introduce himself during the previous 2 years????????????
Didn't these reporters have the chance to dig into his past the previous 2 years????????????
 

TexasBred

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gcreekrch said:
It's my guess that your new "czar" will be answering less and doing more as time goes on.

I hope I am proven wrong for the American peoples sake.

If the answers given yesterday by his press secretary were any indication we won't learn anything from this president because he has no answers. Just keeps signing those executive orders circumventing congress.
 
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Anonymous

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TexasBred said:
gcreekrch said:
It's my guess that your new "czar" will be answering less and doing more as time goes on.

I hope I am proven wrong for the American peoples sake.

If the answers given yesterday by his press secretary were any indication we won't learn anything from this president because he has no answers. Just keeps signing those executive orders circumventing congress.

Or could it be he's putting things back the way Congress intended it to be :???:
I watched the Vilsack confirmation hearing- and thats the main thing that all the Congressmen on the Ag committee (both Repub and Dem) were asking Vilsack- is that if he would work with them to put the Farm Bill rules back the way they intended them to be-and the way it was written-agreement which was reached after a lot of work and compromise--- not the way they were interpreted by Bush/Shafer in their last gift to Tyson/Monsanto/Multinational Corporates and Importers...

Folks wanted CHANGE- the majority of the voters voted for CHANGE- and now that they are getting CHANGE- some are still bitchin..... :roll:
 

Steve

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OT
Folks wanted CHANGE- the majority of the voters voted for CHANGE- and now that they are getting CHANGE- some are still bitchin....

it's not our fault some of you folks weren't smart enough to see though his lack of experience and liberal agenda..

I didn't vote for "change" nor Obama.. and so far he hasn't done anything I agree with..

unlike you who voted for Bush only to spend the rest of your life blaming Bush for everything..
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
gcreekrch said:
It's my guess that your new "czar" will be answering less and doing more as time goes on.

I hope I am proven wrong for the American peoples sake.

If the answers given yesterday by his press secretary were any indication we won't learn anything from this president because he has no answers. Just keeps signing those executive orders circumventing congress.

Or could it be he's putting things back the way Congress intended it to be :???: I watched the Vilsack confirmation hearing- and thats the main thing that all the Congressmen on the Ag committee (both Repub and Dem) were asking Vilsack- is that if he would work with them to put the Farm Bill rules back the way they intended them to be-and the way it was written-agreement which was reached after a lot of work and compromise--- not the way they were interpreted by Bush/Shafer in their last gift to Tyson/Monsanto/Multinational Corporates and Importers...

Folks wanted CHANGE- the majority of the voters voted for CHANGE- and now that they are getting CHANGE- some are still bitchin..... :roll:

So tell us Oldtimer is this the way Congress was intened to work :shock:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi’s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol

IS this what a Democracy looks like to you. :???:
 

Steve

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Tam said:
So tell us Oldtimer is this the way Congress was intened to work :shock:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi plans to re-write House rules today to ensure that the Republican minority is unable to have any influence on legislation. Pelosi’s proposals are so draconian, and will so polarize the Capitol

IS this what a Democracy looks like to you. :???:

since it will take awhile for OT to bash Bush before he gets to your question...

yep, thats why we are a republic..

so the majority can't trample on the minority..
 
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Anonymous

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I can't stand either Pelosi or Reid-- but that is the way Congress is set up to operate-- the Party having control has control of the Rules Committee and sets up the rules...Been that way for years....

And Tam- the rules/laws you're concerned about were written by the LAST Congress- not this one- and it is the Congressmen ( of both parties) that put in so much time and effort getting a bipartisan compromise- and are now upset because GW/Shafer thru out all their intent and direction in setting the rules and interpreting the way he wanted it- not how Congress wrote it....

And most these rules affecting you and me- were changed by Bush/Shafer/USDA to favor the big Corporates and not the US producer/consumer...Not only with the M-COOL law, the OTM rule, but in GMO marketing....

If GW wouldn't have been pulling this same Horsesh*t for 8 years- which people are tired of and demanded "Change"- maybe the Dems wouldn't be in contol of Congress- and the White House...
 

Steve

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Oldtimer said:
I can't stand either Pelosi or Reid-- but that is the way Congress is set up to operate-- the Party having control has control of the Rules Committee and sets up the rules...Been that way for years....

And Tam- the rules/laws you're concerned about were written by the LAST Congress- not this one- and it is the Congressmen ( of both parties) that put in so much time and effort getting a bipartisan compromise- and are now upset because GW/Shafer thru out all their intent and direction in setting the rules and interpreting the way he wanted it- not how Congress wrote it....

And most these rules affecting you and me- were changed by Bush/Shafer/USDA to favor the big Corporates and not the US producer/consumer...Not only with the M-COOL law, the OTM rule, but in GMO marketing....

If GW wouldn't have been pulling this same Horsesh*t for 8 years- which people are tired of and demanded "Change"- maybe the Dems wouldn't be in contol of Congress- and the White House...

well Tam "since it will took OT to long to answer.. as he was busy bashing Bush.. and ignored your question.. .. again

We are a republic.. so the rights of the minority are not trampled on by the majority..

BTW OT Bush was president.. he had no control over house rules...
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
gcreekrch said:
It's my guess that your new "czar" will be answering less and doing more as time goes on.

I hope I am proven wrong for the American peoples sake.

If the answers given yesterday by his press secretary were any indication we won't learn anything from this president because he has no answers. Just keeps signing those executive orders circumventing congress.

Or could it be he's putting things back the way Congress intended it to be :???:
I watched the Vilsack confirmation hearing- and thats the main thing that all the Congressmen on the Ag committee (both Repub and Dem) were asking Vilsack- is that if he would work with them to put the Farm Bill rules back the way they intended them to be-and the way it was written-agreement which was reached after a lot of work and compromise--- not the way they were interpreted by Bush/Shafer in their last gift to Tyson/Monsanto/Multinational Corporates and Importers...

Folks wanted CHANGE- the majority of the voters voted for CHANGE- and now that they are getting CHANGE- some are still bitchin..... :roll:

You will be too first time the chosen one does something contrary to your beliefs. The economy is in shambles and he's dwelling on Gitmo and the rights of terrorists. Seems to me his priorities are a little out of order.
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
I can't stand either Pelosi or Reid-- but that is the way Congress is set up to operate-- the Party having control has control of the Rules Committee and sets up the rules...Been that way for years....

And Tam- the rules/laws you're concerned about were written by the LAST Congress- not this one- and it is the Congressmen ( of both parties) that put in so much time and effort getting a bipartisan compromise- and are now upset because GW/Shafer thru out all their intent and direction in setting the rules and interpreting the way he wanted it- not how Congress wrote it....

And most these rules affecting you and me- were changed by Bush/Shafer/USDA to favor the big Corporates and not the US producer/consumer...Not only with the M-COOL law, the OTM rule, but in GMO marketing....

If GW wouldn't have been pulling this same Horsesh*t for 8 years- which people are tired of and demanded "Change"- maybe the Dems wouldn't be in contol of Congress- and the White House...

Blah blah blah I hate Bush yea we know

I posted what PELOSI is going to do NOW JAN 2009 and SHE the DEMOCRAT is rewriting rules so the DEMOCRATS have no opposition to anything they want to do. IS that the way you think your country should be run. Plain and simple DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE GIVEN ABSOLUTE POWER?
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
I can't stand either Pelosi or Reid-- but that is the way Congress is set up to operate-- the Party having control has control of the Rules Committee and sets up the rules...Been that way for years....

And Tam- the rules/laws you're concerned about were written by the LAST Congress- not this one- and it is the Congressmen ( of both parties) that put in so much time and effort getting a bipartisan compromise- and are now upset because GW/Shafer thru out all their intent and direction in setting the rules and interpreting the way he wanted it- not how Congress wrote it....

And most these rules affecting you and me- were changed by Bush/Shafer/USDA to favor the big Corporates and not the US producer/consumer...Not only with the M-COOL law, the OTM rule, but in GMO marketing....

If GW wouldn't have been pulling this same Horsesh*t for 8 years- which people are tired of and demanded "Change"- maybe the Dems wouldn't be in contol of Congress- and the White House...

Blah blah blah I hate Bush yea we know

I posted what PELOSI is going to do NOW JAN 2009 and SHE the DEMOCRAT is rewriting rules so the DEMOCRATS have no opposition to anything they want to do. IS that the way you think your country should be run. Plain and simple DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE GIVEN ABSOLUTE POWER?

For 6 of the last 8 years the Repubs had it-- thats what comes with winning an election...And that bunch of Repubs refused to even question anything Bush did...

You forget- the Repubs got their butts kicked in 2006--didn't learn from that-- so ended up getting them really tromped in 2008....Thats how Democracies work- if those in office screw up- bring in someone new....

Just like today when one of the Repub Leadership got up and was on tv speaking about the recovery bill- that would put us another Trillion $ in debt--and how he didn't want our kids to inherit so much debt... :???:
Like everyone at the coffee shop said-- where was he when Bush was blowing our tax dollars like it grew on trees and they controlled Congress :???:
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Like everyone at the coffee shop said-- where was he when Bush was blowing our tax dollars like it grew on trees and they controlled Congress Say what?

smart guys those coffee chums of yours.

"We've spent our last dollar, might as well go and borrow another trillion, and spend it before next week!"
 

Mike

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Bush Signs Spending Bill, Jabs at Dems
By JENNIFER LOVEN, Associated Press Writer

Saturday, September 29, 2007


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(09-29) 12:47 PDT WASHINGTON, (AP) --


President Bush on Saturday signed a bill to prevent a government shutdown, but not without complaint. Bush lambasted the Democrats who control Congress for sending him the stopgap measure while they continue to work on more than a dozen spending bills funding the day-to-day operations of 15 Cabinet departments.


"Congress failed in its most basic responsibility," the president said in his weekly radio address.


The bills are tied up because Democrats want to add $23 billion for domestic programs to Bush's $933 billion request for the approximately one-third of the federal budget funded by the yearly spending bills. Bush has threatened vetoes on most of the bills, eager to re-establish his party's reputation as the place to go for fiscal discipline.


The president said Democrats are planning the "biggest tax increase in American history" to pay for the new spending.


"Earlier this year congressional leaders promised to show that they could be responsible with the people's money," he said. "Unfortunately they seem to have chosen the path of higher spending."
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
I can't stand either Pelosi or Reid-- but that is the way Congress is set up to operate-- the Party having control has control of the Rules Committee and sets up the rules...Been that way for years....

And Tam- the rules/laws you're concerned about were written by the LAST Congress- not this one- and it is the Congressmen ( of both parties) that put in so much time and effort getting a bipartisan compromise- and are now upset because GW/Shafer thru out all their intent and direction in setting the rules and interpreting the way he wanted it- not how Congress wrote it....

And most these rules affecting you and me- were changed by Bush/Shafer/USDA to favor the big Corporates and not the US producer/consumer...Not only with the M-COOL law, the OTM rule, but in GMO marketing....

If GW wouldn't have been pulling this same Horsesh*t for 8 years- which people are tired of and demanded "Change"- maybe the Dems wouldn't be in contol of Congress- and the White House...

Blah blah blah I hate Bush yea we know

I posted what PELOSI is going to do NOW JAN 2009 and SHE the DEMOCRAT is rewriting rules so the DEMOCRATS have no opposition to anything they want to do. IS that the way you think your country should be run. Plain and simple DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE GIVEN ABSOLUTE POWER?

For 6 of the last 8 years the Repubs had it-- thats what comes with winning an election...And that bunch of Repubs refused to even question anything Bush did...

You forget- the Repubs got their butts kicked in 2006--didn't learn from that-- so ended up getting them really tromped in 2008....Thats how Democracies work- if those in office screw up- bring in someone new....

Just like today when one of the Repub Leadership got up and was on tv speaking about the recovery bill- that would put us another Trillion $ in debt--and how he didn't want our kids to inherit so much debt... :???:
Like everyone at the coffee shop said-- where was he when Bush was blowing our tax dollars like it grew on trees and they controlled Congress :???:

Right at this moment let's put the past behind us, forget the last 8 years
NOW Nancy Pelosi remember her Oldtimer she is the Democrat Leader of the House SHE is rewriting the rules to EXCLUDE any opposition. IS that how good government runs with no OPPOSITION. Blank check for Pelosi I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU THINK THIS IS HOW THE US GOVERNMENT WAS INTENDED TO BE RUN.

YES or NO :x
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Blah blah blah I hate Bush yea we know

I posted what PELOSI is going to do NOW JAN 2009 and SHE the DEMOCRAT is rewriting rules so the DEMOCRATS have no opposition to anything they want to do. IS that the way you think your country should be run. Plain and simple DO YOU THINK THE DEMOCRATS SHOULD BE GIVEN ABSOLUTE POWER?

For 6 of the last 8 years the Repubs had it-- thats what comes with winning an election...And that bunch of Repubs refused to even question anything Bush did...

You forget- the Repubs got their butts kicked in 2006--didn't learn from that-- so ended up getting them really tromped in 2008....Thats how Democracies work- if those in office screw up- bring in someone new....

Just like today when one of the Repub Leadership got up and was on tv speaking about the recovery bill- that would put us another Trillion $ in debt--and how he didn't want our kids to inherit so much debt... :???:
Like everyone at the coffee shop said-- where was he when Bush was blowing our tax dollars like it grew on trees and they controlled Congress :???:

Right at this moment let's put the past behind us, forget the last 8 years
NOW Nancy Pelosi remember her Oldtimer she is the Democrat Leader of the House SHE is rewriting the rules to EXCLUDE any opposition. IS that how good government runs with no OPPOSITION. Blank check for Pelosi I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU THINK THIS IS HOW THE US GOVERNMENT WAS INTENDED TO BE RUN.

YES or NO :x

When the voters kick out one bunch- and tell the other bunch to lead- that is what you do...None of these rules are written in stone...

I do like the part about the opposition not being able to add on riders after the initial bill is decided on--as thats where most the pork came from (both parties) and its how some of the bad midnite bills like Gramms Enron Loophole got put thru.....
 

Tam

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
For 6 of the last 8 years the Repubs had it-- thats what comes with winning an election...And that bunch of Repubs refused to even question anything Bush did...

You forget- the Repubs got their butts kicked in 2006--didn't learn from that-- so ended up getting them really tromped in 2008....Thats how Democracies work- if those in office screw up- bring in someone new....

Just like today when one of the Repub Leadership got up and was on tv speaking about the recovery bill- that would put us another Trillion $ in debt--and how he didn't want our kids to inherit so much debt... :???:
Like everyone at the coffee shop said-- where was he when Bush was blowing our tax dollars like it grew on trees and they controlled Congress :???:

Right at this moment let's put the past behind us, forget the last 8 years
NOW Nancy Pelosi remember her Oldtimer she is the Democrat Leader of the House SHE is rewriting the rules to EXCLUDE any opposition. IS that how good government runs with no OPPOSITION. Blank check for Pelosi I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU THINK THIS IS HOW THE US GOVERNMENT WAS INTENDED TO BE RUN.

YES or NO :x

When the voters kick out one bunch- and tell the other bunch to lead- that is what you do...None of these rules are written in stone...

I do like the part about the opposition not being able to add on riders after the initial bill is decided on--as thats where most the pork came from (both parties) and its how some of the bad midnite bills like Gramms Enron Loophole got put thru.....

Seems to me that not all districts kicked out the Republicans if they had Pelosi would have no need to rewrite the rules to rob the Republicans of their democratically elected rights. OLDTIMER :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And those that Didn't deserve to be represented TOO. The reason a government has opposition is to keep the ruling party accountable. When that opposition is muted like Pelosi wants EVERYONE LOOSES. :roll: :roll: :roll:

And who is stopping the Dems from adding crap after the bill is decided. Their honesty. :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Right at this moment let's put the past behind us, forget the last 8 years
NOW Nancy Pelosi remember her Oldtimer she is the Democrat Leader of the House SHE is rewriting the rules to EXCLUDE any opposition. IS that how good government runs with no OPPOSITION. Blank check for Pelosi I WANT TO KNOW IF YOU THINK THIS IS HOW THE US GOVERNMENT WAS INTENDED TO BE RUN.

YES or NO :x

When the voters kick out one bunch- and tell the other bunch to lead- that is what you do...None of these rules are written in stone...

I do like the part about the opposition not being able to add on riders after the initial bill is decided on--as thats where most the pork came from (both parties) and its how some of the bad midnite bills like Gramms Enron Loophole got put thru.....

Seems to me that not all districts kicked out the Republicans if they had Pelosi would have no need to rewrite the rules to rob the Republicans of their democratically elected rights. OLDTIMER :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

And those that Didn't deserve to be represented TOO. The reason a government has opposition is to keep the ruling party accountable. When that opposition is muted like Pelosi wants EVERYONE LOOSES. :roll: :roll: :roll:

And who is stopping the Dems from adding crap after the bill is decided. Their honesty. :roll: :roll: :roll:

Tam
I never saw the YES or NO answer from oldtimer! did he pm you with it?
Or did he just do like always dance around the question???? :roll: :roll:
 
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Anonymous

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Hey hoppy-- we're still waiting for you to post your picture on Coffee Shop- along with Memanpa's, Droopy's, DumMac, etc. etc....

Should take up a whole page for you to figure out who you are :wink: :lol: :p
 
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