nonothing said:Well if Obama lied then those of you who liked GW(and there was alot of you fighting for GW not so long ago) should be voting for Obama..I guess by lieing he will get the conservative votes now to....They seem to support those who are less then honest ....
Mrs.Greg said:How long was the debate? I only got a half hour break so had that on,was kinda interested in why you guys HATE Obama so much. All I seen in the half hour was smug McCain,snickering and putting down everything Obama "tried" to say.
Yeck,IF I could vote it would have to be for McCain,but I'd have to wipe the slime off the pen after the X. JMHO
Vision said:Mrs.Greg said:How long was the debate? I only got a half hour break so had that on,was kinda interested in why you guys HATE Obama so much. All I seen in the half hour was smug McCain,snickering and putting down everything Obama "tried" to say.
Yeck,IF I could vote it would have to be for McCain,but I'd have to wipe the slime off the pen after the X. JMHO
What is this hate stuff??
I don't hate Obama, I am pretty darned sick and tired of politicians who lie to me when I can look up the public record in minutes to see that I am being lied to.... but hate... that is pretty extreme.
Vision said:Mrs. Gregg,
The American people have been lied to by both parties for so long that the frustration level is pretty high.
The media is all about hype and not about solid information, and public schools in America are graduating kids who have great self asteem, but know very little and are not good thinkers.
So for now those who just tell lie after lie and demagogue the issues are getting away with it. People who know betetr are upset.
VanC said:Obama's critics are free to speculate on his motives for voting against the bills, and postulate a lack of concern for babies' welfare. But his stated reasons for opposing "born-alive" bills have to do with preserving abortion rights, a position he is known to support and has never hidden.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/obama_and_infanticide.html
This means that, in essence, Obama voted to successfully amend the bill in a way that Obama has said would have enabled him to support it—before he voted against it. It also puts Obama further to the left of NARAL Pro-Choice America. According to a statement released by the abortion-rights lobby in the run-up to the U.S. Senate’s BAIPA vote in 2002, “NARAL does not oppose passage of the Born Alive Infants Protection Act … floor debate served to clarify the bill’s intent and assure us that it is not targeted at Roe v. Wade or a woman’s right to choose.”
http://townhall.com/columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/10/14/obamas_infanticide_lie
kolanuraven said:Vision said:Mrs. Gregg,
The American people have been lied to by both parties for so long that the frustration level is pretty high.
The media is all about hype and not about solid information, and public schools in America are graduating kids who have great self asteem, but know very little and are not good thinkers.
So for now those who just tell lie after lie and demagogue the issues are getting away with it. People who know betetr are upset.
:wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:
You a "homeschooler" also?
Mrs.Greg said:Sooo kiddo.....the part of the debate I watched included school vochers.....hmmm,I'm not to sure I'm buying that idea...too private school...the rich get the better education thing for me....whats your take????
Well unless your 14 the question wasn't really aimed at you.... :wink: I was wondering what the home schooled young mans take was.Vision said:Mrs.Greg said:Sooo kiddo.....the part of the debate I watched included school vochers.....hmmm,I'm not to sure I'm buying that idea...too private school...the rich get the better education thing for me....whats your take????
Are you saying that since the rich can afford private school, that we should try and deny a good education to people who have less resources??
Hurting kids to satisfy class envy is pretty sickening.
Every kid who gets rescued from the public school system is a victory no matter how much their parents have.
The truth is that many private schools spend less per student than public schools and educate far better.
The voucher system would actually work better and cost the taxpayers less.
Mrs.Greg said:Well unless your 14 the question wasn't really aimed at you.... :wink: I was wondering what the home schooled young mans take was.Vision said:Mrs.Greg said:Sooo kiddo.....the part of the debate I watched included school vochers.....hmmm,I'm not to sure I'm buying that idea...too private school...the rich get the better education thing for me....whats your take????
Are you saying that since the rich can afford private school, that we should try and deny a good education to people who have less resources??
Hurting kids to satisfy class envy is pretty sickening.
Every kid who gets rescued from the public school system is a victory no matter how much their parents have.
The truth is that many private schools spend less per student than public schools and educate far better.
The voucher system would actually work better and cost the taxpayers less.
Mostly I don't understand the voucher thing at all.....equal education for all seems to be a standard Canada trys to follow. There are private schools but those are for the VERY rich...and then theres Separate schools{catholic,funded,same as public} Our public schools are probably the highest% of educating the professions as well as the trades...a place for all,not just an rich few that are educated in private schools. I'm going to assume its different with you guys :???: