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The fence,good idea,or bad idea?

INSTALLING FENCES ON OUR BORDERS

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SHORTSTUFF

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My we do have some radical ideas on this subject, don't we.
First of all, the fence is just a feelgood, sound good measure from the politicans, just as well try to build a barb wire fence to keep the mice out of the feed stack.
Secondly, this country was built on the back of immigrant labor, these are good people pretty much when they arrive. The problem lies within the US entitlements, as soon as a family enrolls in school that has a language problem, the dept. of social services actually has someone on staff that goes out and tells the family all the programs they can be on.What a way to sour a good worker!!
Terrorism I dont know about, but I do not believe as of this date there are any connections of known terrorists slipping across the border and through the desert in a manner that this fence would have stopped.
 

Bill

Well-known member
In the late '80s Reagan and the US celebrated the opening of the Berlin wall and almost 20 years later the US is talking of erecting their own?

History does have a habit of repeating itself doesn't it?
 

Cal

Well-known member
Bill said:
In the late '80s Reagan and the US celebrated the opening of the Berlin wall and almost 20 years later the US is talking of erecting their own?

History does have a habit of repeating itself doesn't it?
In case you missed it, this wall won't be used to keep anyone from leaving the US.
 

Cal

Well-known member
SHORTSTUFF said:
My we do have some radical ideas on this subject, don't we.
First of all, the fence is just a feelgood, sound good measure from the politicans, just as well try to build a barb wire fence to keep the mice out of the feed stack.
Secondly, this country was built on the back of immigrant labor, these are good people pretty much when they arrive. The problem lies within the US entitlements, as soon as a family enrolls in school that has a language problem, the dept. of social services actually has someone on staff that goes out and tells the family all the programs they can be on.What a way to sour a good worker!!
Terrorism I dont know about, but I do not believe as of this date there are any connections of known terrorists slipping across the border and through the desert in a manner that this fence would have stopped.
So how is a barrier to keep illegal immigrants and drug traffic from crossing the border a "feelgood" anything? Our southern border is way to porous and leaves us vulnerable, to believe otherwise is nieve.
 

SHORTSTUFF

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It's a "feel good" in the fact that it will make the politicans feel good that they have done something while accomplishing nothing. All our borders are porous, southern is just the one that draws the most attention because it is easy to point out the intruders.
Speaking of nieve, you should go spend a little time in the area and figure out how to build this fence, it would take the Berlin wall to stop these people, complete with armed guards.Then you have to have a flood gate in the bottom of every arroyo.
 

Cal

Well-known member
SHORTSTUFF said:
It's a "feel good" in the fact that it will make the politicans feel good that they have done something while accomplishing nothing. All our borders are porous, southern is just the one that draws the most attention because it is easy to point out the intruders.
Speaking of nieve, you should go spend a little time in the area and figure out how to build this fence, it would take the Berlin wall to stop these people, complete with armed guards.Then you have to have a flood gate in the bottom of every arroyo.
Right now we have next to nothing, and a big problem. A 700 mile fence will be completely doable. Compared to some of the thousands of miles of road projects, it should be a snap.
 

Bill

Well-known member
A few facts about the 5000 mile Canadian-US border from

http://www.cric.ca/en_html/guide/border/border.html

The Canada-U.S. border stretches 5,061 km (3,145 miles) on land and 3,832 km (2,381 miles) over water.

The International Boundary Commission, established in 1908, maintains the
transcontinental line.

More than $1.9 billion in goods and more than 300,000 people moving across the Canada-US border each day, both countries have a critical stake in each other’s economic security.

The Canada-United States border, established over two centuries ago, is much more than just a geographic line between Canada and the United States.

At 5,061 km/3,145 miles on land and
3,832 km/2,381 miles over water, Canada and the United States share the world's longest non-militarized border.

In terms of "people traffic," over 200 million two-way border crossings took place in 1999 at 130 border-crossing points. On the Canadian side of the border, there are approximately 350 Citizenship and Immigration Canada agents and 1,310 Canada Customs and Revenue Agency inspectors. On the U.S. side, there are approximately 700 U.S. Customs inspectors, 512 Immigration and Naturalization Service inspectors and 310 Border Patrol agents.

The Royal Canadian Mounted Police (supported by the Canadian Coast Guard) and the U.S. Coast Guard also monitor our maritime border on the Great Lakes and the Atlantic and Pacific coasts.
 

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