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Disagreeable

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IMO, it should be for impeachment, but censure is a good start. It won't go anywhere, of course, because the Republicans run the government. But the press is reporting it, voters are watching and drawing their own conclusions. Link below:

"Wisconsin Sen. Russ Feingold, a longtime critic of the Bush administration, said he hoped a censure would cause Bush to apologize for the warrantless surveillance that he put in place on his own after the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001.

"What the president did, by consciously and intentionally violating the Constitution and the laws of this country with this illegal wiretapping, has to be answered," Feingold said on ABC's "This Week."



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20060312/ap_on_go_co/bush_censure
 

jigs

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good idea Dis, the congress should focus on pissing in each others boots, instead of fixing the problems with our country.... I hate to see my tax dollars spent wisely. I hope we can get a good month or two of he said she said going to keep the congress away from the details that we sent them there for in the first place.

idiot Liberal!
 

Jinglebob

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Now, now Jigs, you don't want to offend some sensitive type person out there.
:wink:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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jigs said:
good idea Dis, the congress should focus on pissing in each others boots, instead of fixing the problems with our country.... I hate to see my tax dollars spent wisely. I hope we can get a good month or two of he said she said going to keep the congress away from the details that we sent them there for in the first place.

idiot Liberal!

Yep :lol: :lol: :clap: :clap:
 

jigs

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reader (the Second) said:
jigs said:
good idea Dis, the congress should focus on pissing in each others boots, instead of fixing the problems with our country.... I hate to see my tax dollars spent wisely. I hope we can get a good month or two of he said she said going to keep the congress away from the details that we sent them there for in the first place.

idiot Liberal!

I agree with you Jigs but that didn't stop the Congress from impreachment hearings against Clinton... Our elected officials are mostly a bunch of posturing partisan idiots.
in all fairnes, I was upset at the amount of time that the GOP spent chasing after Clinton.

an assasin would have been faster and cleaner way to solve that problem. As long as he took the Mrs. out with him.
 

Disagreeable

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jigs said:
good idea Dis, the congress should focus on pissing in each others boots, instead of fixing the problems with our country.... I hate to see my tax dollars spent wisely. I hope we can get a good month or two of he said she said going to keep the congress away from the details that we sent them there for in the first place.

idiot Liberal!

Right. They've got so much to do. And what's at the top of the Republican list? Not Katrina, not income tax reform, not the federal deficit, not Medicare D, not veterans affairs. No, it's introducing bills to ban buring the flag and gay marriage. Now those are two topics that really will make a difference in this country next year! :roll: But they might get the fundamentalist to the polls to support the Bush Bunch.
 

BBJ

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Hey dis, I've been away from the news here lately could you please tell me what the dems have proposed for Katrina, income tax reform, federal deficit, medicare vetrans affairs or for that matter anything else.
 

Disagreeable

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BBJ said:
Hey dis, I've been away from the news here lately could you please tell me what the dems have proposed for Katrina, income tax reform, federal deficit, medicare vetrans affairs or for that matter anything else.


Who said anything about Democrats? I'm simply pointing out what the Republicans, who are in charge of our government, who have run up a record deficit, consider the most important issues for this country. It doesn't really matter what the Dem's propose. The Republicans won't allow their ideas come to the floor for a vote.
 

BBJ

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Oh I see so that's why they don't have a clear plan. :)


The libs have to wait till they are back in power before they can come up with solutions to the problems. HMMM??? :???: :?

Since you libs obviously live by the polls and Bush's numbers seem to be slipping as you have so kindly pointed out, seems to me like now is the time to tell the people of America what ya'll can do to fix it, but instead ya'll are going to hold on to the "solutions" till you get back in power. :oops: makes sense? :wink:

Sounds like Kerry during the election, he kept saying he had a plan for Iraq but never told what it was. :lol: :lol: :lol:


You libs :roll: ....... what are we gonna do with ya???? :wink:
 

jigs

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the Dems political solutions remind me of that old laundry detergent commercial "sssshhhhh....ancient Chinese secret"
 

Jinglebob

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If the Dems are so dang smart, why did they lose the elction. And don't give that popular vote crap. If Gore or Kerry had won, in the same way, you'd have been shouting, "but we go by the electorial college. Everybody knows that."
 

BBJ

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http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3f.htm

OR MAYBE THIS, :lol:

Feingold Draws Little Support for Censure
Mar 13 7:14 PM US/Eastern
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By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON


[email protected] Democrats distanced themselves Monday from Wisconsin Sen. Russell Feingold's effort to censure President Bush over domestic spying, preventing a floor vote that could alienate swing voters.

A day of tough, election-year talk between Feingold and Vice President Dick Cheney ended with Senate leaders sending the matter to the Judiciary Committee.



"I look forward to a full hearing, debate and vote in committee on this important matter," Feingold said in a statement late Monday. "If the Committee fails to consider the resolution expeditiously, I will ask that there be a vote in the full Senate."

Republicans dared Democrats to vote for the proposal.

"Some Democrats in Congress have decided the president is the enemy," Vice President Dick Cheney told a Republican audience in Feingold's home state.

Feingold, a potential presidential candidate, :lol: :lol: :lol: said on the Senate floor, "The president has violated the law and Congress must respond."

"A formal censure by Congress is an appropriate and responsible first step to assure the public that when the president thinks he can violate the law without consequences, Congress has the will to hold him accountable," Feingold said.

Even as he spoke, Democratic leaders held off the immediate vote that Majority Leader Bill Frist requested. Sen. Dick Durbin, D-Ill., said he didn't know if there ever would be one. Durbin said that Feingold had sought to use the censure resolution "as a catalyst" for thorough hearings and investigations.

The referral averted a debate and a vote that Democrats privately worried would alienate voters who could decide close elections.

Throughout the day, Feingold's fellow Democrats said they understood his frustration but they held back overt support for the resolution.

Several said they wanted first to see the Senate Intelligence Committee finish an investigation of the warrantless wiretapping program that Bush authorized as part of his war on terrorism.

Asked at a news conference whether he would vote for the censure resolution, Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada declined to endorse it and said he hadn't read it.

Sen. Joe Lieberman, D-Conn., said he had not read it either and wasn't inclined simply to scold the president.

"I'd prefer to see us solve the problem," Lieberman told reporters.

Across the Capitol, reaction was similar. Feingold's censure resolution drew empathy but no outright support from Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi.

Pelosi "understands Sen. Feingold's frustration that the facts about the NSA domestic surveillance program have not been disclosed appropriately to Congress," her office said in a statement. "Both the House and the Senate must fully investigate the program and assign responsibility for any laws that may have been broken."

Feingold's resolution accuses Bush of violating the Constitution and the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

It reads in part:

"Resolved that the United States Senate does hereby censure George W. Bush, president of the United States, and does condemn his unlawful authorization of wiretaps of Americans within the United States without obtaining the court orders required."

The resolution says censuring Bush also is warranted by "his failure to inform the full congressional intelligence committees as required by law, and his efforts to mislead the American people about the authorities relied upon by his administration to conduct wiretaps and about the legality of the program."

The only president ever censured by the Senate was Andrew Jackson, in for removing the nation's money from a private bank in defiance of the Whig-controlled Senate.

In 1999, a censure resolution failed against President Clinton after he was acquitted by the Senate on House impeachment charges that he committed perjury and obstructed justice in the Monica Lewinsky affair.

"This is clearly more serious than what President Clinton was accused of doing," Feingold reporters after his floor speech.

Cheney said Monday, "The outrageous proposition that we ought to protect our enemies' ability to communicate as it plots against America poses a key test of our Democratic leaders."

"The American people already made their decision," Cheney added. "They agree with the president."
 

Disagreeable

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Oh, no expects it to pass. It may not even reach the floor. But it's only the first call. The newsmedia is reporting it. Pollsters have not been polling voters on impeachment, but they may be forced to do that now. And when the numbers get high enough calling for impeachment.....
 

BBJ

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Feingold Accuses Democrats of 'Cowering'
Mar 15 7:20 AM US/Eastern
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By LAURIE KELLMAN
Associated Press Writer


WASHINGTON


[email protected] Wisconsin Sen. Russell Feingold accused fellow Democrats on Tuesday of cowering rather than joining him on trying to censure President Bush over domestic spying.

"Democrats run and hide" when the administration invokes the war on terrorism, Feingold told reporters.



Feingold introduced censure legislation Monday in the Senate but not a single Democrat has embraced it. Several have said they want to see the results of a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation before supporting any punitive legislation.

Republicans dismissed the proposal Tuesday as being more about Feingold's 2008 presidential aspirations than Bush's actions. On and off the Senate floor, they have dared Democrats to vote for the resolution.

"I'm amazed at Democrats ... cowering with this president's numbers so low," Feingold said.

The latest AP-Ipsos poll on Bush, conducted last week, found just 37 percent of the 1,000 people surveyed approving his overall performance, the lowest of his presidency.

Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., tried to hold a vote Monday on Feingold's resolution but was blocked by Democrats. He said Tuesday that Feingold should withdraw the resolution because it has no support.

"If the Democrats continue to say no to voting on their own censure resolution, then they ought to drop it and focus on our foreign policy in a positive way," Frist said in a statement.

Feingold's resolution condemns Bush's "unlawful authorization of wiretaps of Americans within the United States without obtaining the court orders required" by the 1978 Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act.

The only president ever censured by the Senate was Andrew Jackson, in for removing the nation's money from a private bank in defiance of the Whig-controlled Senate.
 

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