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The girls are free, now the questions about Cleveland cops..

Whitewing

Well-known member
...and the job they didn't do.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2320972/Ariel-Castro-Neighbor-accused-kidnapper-says-saw-naked-woman-backyard-TWO-years-ago--police-didnt-seriously.html?ICO=most_read_module

1) Several neighbors have revealed a series of unusual goings-on but say police either didn't respond or didn't go inside the house

2) After one person reported seeing a naked woman in Castro's backyard he put tarps up make it impossible for neighbors to see in

3) Police also knocked on the door of the home in 2004 as part of a child services' investigation

Neighbors of accused kidnapper Ariel Castro have revealed they saw three naked young girls crawling in the backyard of his house on all fours with dog leashes around their necks and three men controlling them, but amazingly police never responded to their call.
The shocking revelation is one of a number of stories to have emerged from neighbors who say they reported unusual goings-on at Castro's Seymour Avenue, Cleveland home to local police who either didn't respond or didn't enter the house when they did show up.

Amanda Berry, Gina DeJesus and Michelle Knight all disappeared about a decade ago, when they were in their teens or early 20s. They were rescued Monday after Berry kicked out the bottom portion of a locked screen door and used a neighbor's telephone to call 911.

Israel Lugo, who lives two houses down from Castro, said he heard pounding on some of the doors of the house, which had plastic bags on the windows, in November 2011.

In that instance police responded, but officers only knocked on the front door and left when no one answered.

'They walked to the side of the house and then left,' he told USAToday.

Another neighbor, Nina Samoylicz, who lives three doors down, also reported seeing a naked woman in his backyard two years ago, but police didn't take her seriously when she reported the incident.

'We thought it was funny at first, and then we thought that was weird so we called the cops.' she told CNN. 'They thought we was playing, joking, they didn't believe us.'

Soon after Castro covered his garden in tarps so no-one could see in.

Cleveland police officials said on Tuesday that the department has no records of a call for service to that home.

A third call came from some women who lived in a nearby apartment building.


The women, who haven't been identified told Lugo they called police because they saw three young girls crawling on all fours naked with dog leashes around their necks. Three men were controlling them in the backyard.


The women told Lugo they waited two hours but police didn't respond to their calls.

Lugo said he had seen Ariel Casto last Sunday at a nearby park with the girl who now officials think is Berry's daughter.


When Lugo asked Castro whose daughter she was, Castro said that she was his girlfriend's daughter.


Elsie Cintron, Nina Samoylicz's mom also said she once saw a little girl looking out of the house's attic window.

Officers also visited the home on Seymour Avenue in Cleveland, Ohio in 2004 as part of a child services' investigation.

Police knocked on the door of the home where the three missing girls, Amanda Berry, 26, and Gina DeJesus, 23, and Michelle Knight, 32, were held captive for a decade - but left when no one answered.

Police had been alerted to the man living at the home, Ariel Castro, now a suspect in the abduction, after he inadvertently left a boy at a bus depot while working as a school bus driver. No criminal charges were brought and no follow-up inquiries made.

And liberals wonder why some folks cling to their guns. Relax, the police will be here in a decade or so. :roll:
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Am sure that if oldtimer was still posting here he could answer about the actions of the police being just and good..... wait a minute he can have JR do that for him :wink: :wink: :wink: Or at least post a report from Borowitz :D :D :D
Something about no proof of misdoings..... OPPPS wait oldtimer didn't need proof, he just made alligations and said someone complained...OPPPS that is different he is a liberal and has liberal ideas,,,, OPPPS how dare i forget :roll: :roll: :roll:

EH lil JR
 

Mike

Well-known member
Cops see nothing wrong or abnormal with women on all fours and leashes.

That's the way they expect everyone to be to them.

Armed Citizens Make Fewer Mistakes Than Police

Don't think that just because the police are trained in the use of firearms that they are less likely to kill an innocent person. A University of Chicago Study revealed that in 1993 approximately 700,000 police killed 330 innocent individuals, while approximately 250,000,000 private citizens only killed 30 innocent people. Do the math. That's a per capita rate for the police, of almost 4000 times higher than the population in general. OK, that is a little misleading. Let's just include the 80,000,000 gun owning citizens. Now the police are down to only a 1200 times higher accidental shooting rate than the gun-owning population in general.

That still sounds high. So let's look at it in a different light. According to a study by Newsweek magazine, only 2% of civilian shootings involve an innocent person being shot (not killed). The error rate for police is 11%. What this means is that you are more than 5 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. But, when you consider that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as do police every year, it means that, per capita, you are more than 11 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. That is as low as I can get that number.

This is not meant to be an indictment of the police. In fact, because police often live on the edge, they naturally tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Although they are trained to repress this instinct, it does not always work, as evidenced by the number of innocent people killed by police. Also, since they are generally better marksmen, they tend to kill, rather than wound or totally miss their target.

The Kleck study shows that police shoot and kill around 600 criminals each year. Yet the University of Chicago study shows that police killed 330 innocent individuals in 1993. That means that for every two criminals killed by police, one innocent citizen is killed by police. Although I have the greatest respect for the police and how they must respond under pressure, I think that I would much rather trust an armed populace.

http://actionamerica.org/guns/guns1.shtml
 

Whitewing

Well-known member
Mike said:
Cops see nothing wrong or abnormal with women on all fours and leashes.

That's the way they expect everyone to be to them.

Armed Citizens Make Fewer Mistakes Than Police

Don't think that just because the police are trained in the use of firearms that they are less likely to kill an innocent person. A University of Chicago Study revealed that in 1993 approximately 700,000 police killed 330 innocent individuals, while approximately 250,000,000 private citizens only killed 30 innocent people. Do the math. That's a per capita rate for the police, of almost 4000 times higher than the population in general. OK, that is a little misleading. Let's just include the 80,000,000 gun owning citizens. Now the police are down to only a 1200 times higher accidental shooting rate than the gun-owning population in general.

That still sounds high. So let's look at it in a different light. According to a study by Newsweek magazine, only 2% of civilian shootings involve an innocent person being shot (not killed). The error rate for police is 11%. What this means is that you are more than 5 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. But, when you consider that citizens shoot and kill at least twice as many criminals as do police every year, it means that, per capita, you are more than 11 times more likely to be accidentally shot by a policeman than by an armed citizen. That is as low as I can get that number.

This is not meant to be an indictment of the police. In fact, because police often live on the edge, they naturally tend to shoot first and ask questions later. Although they are trained to repress this instinct, it does not always work, as evidenced by the number of innocent people killed by police. Also, since they are generally better marksmen, they tend to kill, rather than wound or totally miss their target.

The Kleck study shows that police shoot and kill around 600 criminals each year. Yet the University of Chicago study shows that police killed 330 innocent individuals in 1993. That means that for every two criminals killed by police, one innocent citizen is killed by police. Although I have the greatest respect for the police and how they must respond under pressure, I think that I would much rather trust an armed populace.

http://actionamerica.org/guns/guns1.shtml

Interesting numbers indeed. I had no idea. Have we ever gotten an answer as to why the boat where that unarmed Bomber bomber was hiding was filled with bullet holes? Did the boat shoot first?
 

littlejoe

Well-known member
hopalong said:
Am sure that if oldtimer was still posting here he could answer about the actions of the police being just and good..... wait a minute he can have JR do that for him :wink: :wink: :wink: Or at least post a report from Borowitz :D :D :D
Something about no proof of misdoings..... OPPPS wait oldtimer didn't need proof, he just made alligations and said someone complained...OPPPS that is different he is a liberal and has liberal ideas,,,, OPPPS how dare i forget :roll: :roll: :roll:

EH lil JR

heah ya go, wabbitboy

CHARLESTON, S.C. (The Borowitz Report)—Former South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s stunning upset in a special congressional election on Tuesday served as an inspiration to liars across the state and beyond, prominent members of the lying community said tonight.

“In America, liars are always made to feel bad about ourselves, as if what we’re doing is wrong,” said Harland Dorrinson, fifty-seven, a liar from suburban Charleston. “Mark Sanford’s victory tonight is a victory for the lying lifestyle.”


Carol Foyler, thirty-six, a liar from Myrtle Beach, echoed those sentiments: “For the millions of dishonest children across America, tonight Mark Sanford has given them hope that someday, they can be somebody.”

At his victory rally in Charleston, the former governor acknowledged the liars in the audience and said that his victory sent an important message: “Every lie, no matter how big or small, has value.”

“As your Governor, I abused your trust. And as God is my witness, as your congressman, I will abuse it again,” he said, to thunderous applause.

Mr. Sanford, who had been behind in the polls in the waning weeks of the race, owed much of his last-minute surge to the support of the lying community, exit polls showed.

According to those exit polls, Mr. Sanford held a three-to-one lead among voters who described themselves as liars, cheaters, or sleazebags.

Furthermore, the polls showed, those same voters felt that Mr. Sanford’s opponent, Elizabeth Colbert Busch, did not have the lying experience necessary to serve in Congress.
 

Larrry

Well-known member
littlejoe said:
hopalong said:
Am sure that if oldtimer was still posting here he could answer about the actions of the police being just and good..... wait a minute he can have JR do that for him :wink: :wink: :wink: Or at least post a report from Borowitz :D :D :D
Something about no proof of misdoings..... OPPPS wait oldtimer didn't need proof, he just made alligations and said someone complained...OPPPS that is different he is a liberal and has liberal ideas,,,, OPPPS how dare i forget :roll: :roll: :roll:

EH lil JR

heah ya go, wabbitboy

CHARLESTON, S.C. (The Borowitz Report)—Former South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s stunning upset in a special congressional election on Tuesday served as an inspiration to liars across the state and beyond, prominent members of the lying community said tonight.

“In America, liars are always made to feel bad about ourselves, as if what we’re doing is wrong,” said Harland Dorrinson, fifty-seven, a liar from suburban Charleston. “Mark Sanford’s victory tonight is a victory for the lying lifestyle.”


Carol Foyler, thirty-six, a liar from Myrtle Beach, echoed those sentiments: “For the millions of dishonest children across America, tonight Mark Sanford has given them hope that someday, they can be somebody.”

At his victory rally in Charleston, the former governor acknowledged the liars in the audience and said that his victory sent an important message: “Every lie, no matter how big or small, has value.”

“As your Governor, I abused your trust. And as God is my witness, as your congressman, I will abuse it again,” he said, to thunderous applause.

Mr. Sanford, who had been behind in the polls in the waning weeks of the race, owed much of his last-minute surge to the support of the lying community, exit polls showed.

According to those exit polls, Mr. Sanford held a three-to-one lead among voters who described themselves as liars, cheaters, or sleazebags.

Furthermore, the polls showed, those same voters felt that Mr. Sanford’s opponent, Elizabeth Colbert Busch, did not have the lying experience necessary to serve in Congress.

You are on sick individual, you laugh and joke on this post of the poor kidnapped women who were degraded.

And you laugh

And you laugh


And you laugh

And you laugh

These woen aren't laughing at the way they were treat

You are a pathetic individual
 

Mike

Well-known member
Whitewing wrote:
Interesting numbers indeed. I had no idea. Have we ever gotten an answer as to why the boat where that unarmed Bomber bomber was hiding was filled with bullet holes? Did the boat shoot first?

There was an "Exchange" of gunfire, remember?

I would like to know how many times the police shot the older brother after he went down. At first, the medical examiner stated that there were too many bullet holes to count. The final report said multiple gunshots to the torso & extremities plus blunt trauma.

"Too many bullet holes to count" tells me that they kept shooting after he was down. A person doesn't take that many and still be ambulatory.
 

lonewolvie

Well-known member
Three young girls naked and leashed and the police didn't bother to come and investigate. Is sadomasochism "normal" behavior in that city and the police just overlook it? Another thing, is this type of ill repute behavior often practiced by liberals?
 

Tam

Well-known member
Larrry said:
littlejoe said:
hopalong said:
Am sure that if oldtimer was still posting here he could answer about the actions of the police being just and good..... wait a minute he can have JR do that for him :wink: :wink: :wink: Or at least post a report from Borowitz :D :D :D
Something about no proof of misdoings..... OPPPS wait oldtimer didn't need proof, he just made alligations and said someone complained...OPPPS that is different he is a liberal and has liberal ideas,,,, OPPPS how dare i forget :roll: :roll: :roll:

EH lil JR

heah ya go, wabbitboy

CHARLESTON, S.C. (The Borowitz Report)—Former South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford’s stunning upset in a special congressional election on Tuesday served as an inspiration to liars across the state and beyond, prominent members of the lying community said tonight.

“In America, liars are always made to feel bad about ourselves, as if what we’re doing is wrong,” said Harland Dorrinson, fifty-seven, a liar from suburban Charleston. “Mark Sanford’s victory tonight is a victory for the lying lifestyle.”


Carol Foyler, thirty-six, a liar from Myrtle Beach, echoed those sentiments: “For the millions of dishonest children across America, tonight Mark Sanford has given them hope that someday, they can be somebody.”

At his victory rally in Charleston, the former governor acknowledged the liars in the audience and said that his victory sent an important message: “Every lie, no matter how big or small, has value.”

“As your Governor, I abused your trust. And as God is my witness, as your congressman, I will abuse it again,” he said, to thunderous applause.

Mr. Sanford, who had been behind in the polls in the waning weeks of the race, owed much of his last-minute surge to the support of the lying community, exit polls showed.

According to those exit polls, Mr. Sanford held a three-to-one lead among voters who described themselves as liars, cheaters, or sleazebags.

Furthermore, the polls showed, those same voters felt that Mr. Sanford’s opponent, Elizabeth Colbert Busch, did not have the lying experience necessary to serve in Congress.

You are on sick individual, you laugh and joke on this post of the poor kidnapped women who were degraded.

And you laugh

And you laugh


And you laugh

And you laugh

These woen aren't laughing at the way they were treat

You are a pathetic individual

Well if Carney were asked about this horrid event he would probably say
Well it happened a long time ago
If Clinton was asked she would probably say
What does it matter now
So are you surprised lj is bringing up another stupid Borowitz report? :?
 

Steve

Well-known member
Tam said:
Well if Carney were asked about this horrid event he would probably say
Well it happened a long time ago
If Clinton was asked she would probably say
What does it matter now
So are you surprised lj is bringing up another stupid Borowitz report? :?

if Obama was asked he would not want US to rush to judgement.

homeland insecurity JN would say it was an isolated incident.

later if questioned, Obama would say he hadn't heard about it but will check into it.. and go for a round of golf..
 

hopalong

Well-known member
oldtimer jr,,,if i knew what the heck you are referring calliing me wabbit boy i might be insulted but i don't so i just consider another liberal attempt to jack a set of open jaws and sore knees
EH :D :D :D

reminds me soooooo much of oldtimer and his attempts to slander :roll: :roll: and name call

Just another immature man wanna be :wink: :wink: EH jr
 

Tam

Well-known member
Steve said:
Tam said:
Well if Carney were asked about this horrid event he would probably say
Well it happened a long time ago
If Clinton was asked she would probably say
What does it matter now
So are you surprised lj is bringing up another stupid Borowitz report? :?

if Obama was asked he would not want US to rush to judgement.

homeland insecurity JN would say it was an isolated incident.

later if questioned, Obama would say he hadn't heard about it but will check into it.. and go for a round of golf..

THE PARTY OF NO MORALS AT THEIR BEST. :roll:
 
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