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The gun ban list is out and here it is

Faster horses

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The gun ban list is out and here it is...




Folks, here it is and it is bad news. The framework for legislation is already laid, and t he Democrats have the votes to pass anything they want to impose upon us.. They really do not believe you need anything more than a brick to defend your home and family. Look at the list and see how many you own. Remember, it is registration, then confiscation. It has happened in the UK, in Australia, in Europe, in China, and what they have found is that for some reason the criminals do not turn in their weapons, but w ill know that you did. Please send this to everyone you can.. It will come up for a vote, and it might even be a secret vote if Madame Pelosi has her way, and then it will be a done deal.







Subject: Right to own a gun

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Remember, The first step in establishing a dictatorship is to disarm the citizens


Subject: Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin, Democrats have already leaked a gun-ban list.

Gun Law Update by Alan Korwin,
Author Gun Laws of America

Jan.. 5, 2008

Gun -ban list proposed.

Slipping below the radar (or under the short-term memory cap), the Democrats Have already leaked a gun-ban list, even under the Bush administration when They knew full well it had no chance of passage (HR 1022, 110th Congress) It serves as a framework for the new list the Brady's plan to introduce shortly.

I have an outline of the Brady's current plans and targets of opportunity, it’s horrific. They're going after the courts, regulatory agencies, firearms Dealers and statutes in an all out effort to restrict we the people. They've made little mention of criminals.

Now more than ever, attention to the entire Bill of Rights is critical. Gun Bans will impact our freedoms under search and seizure, due process, Confiscated property, states' rights, free speech, right to assemble and more, in addition to the Second Amendment.

The Democrats current gun-ban-list proposal (final list will be worse ):

0ARifles (or copies or duplicates):

M1 Carbine, Sturm Ruger Mini-14, AR-15, Bushmaster XM15,
Armalite M15, AR-10, Thompson 1927, Thompson M1; AK, AKM, AKS, AK-47,
AK-74, ARM, MAK90, NHM 90, NHM 91, SA 85, SA 93, VEPR; Olympic Arms PCR;
AR70, Calico Liberty, Dragunov SVD Sniper Rifle or Dragunov SVU, Fabrique
National FN/FAL, FN/LAR,or FNC, Hi-Point20Carbine, HK-91, HK-93, HK-94, HK-PSG-1,
Thompson 1927 Commando, Kel-Tec Sub Rifle; Saiga, SAR-8, SAR-4800, SKS with detachable magazine, SLG 95, SLR 95 or 96, Steyr AU, Tavor, Uzi, Galil and Uzi Sporter, Galil Sporter, or

Galil Sniper Rifle ( Galatz ).

Pistols (or copies or duplicates):

Calico M-110, MAC-10, MAC-11, or MPA3, Olympic Arms OA,
TEC-9, TEC-DC9, TEC-22 Scorpion, or AB-10, Uzi.

Shotguns (or copies or duplicates):
Armscor 30 BG, SPAS 12 or LAW 12, Striker 12, Streetsweeper.
Catch-all category (for anything missed or new designs):

A semiautomatic rifle that accepts a detachable magazine and has:

(I) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a pistol grip (which includes ANYTHING that can serve as a grip, see below),
(iv) a forward grip; or a barrel shroud.

Any semiautomatic rifle with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds (except tubular magazine .22 rimfire rifles).

A semiautomatic pistol that has the ability to accept a detachable magazine,
And has:

(I) a second pistol grip,
(ii) a threaded barrel,
(iii) a barrel shroud or
(iv) can accept a detachable magazine outside of the pistol grip, and
(v) a semiautomatic pistol with a fixed magazine that can accept more than 10 rounds.

A semiautomatic shotgun with:
(i) a folding or telescoping stock,
(ii) a pistol grip (see definition below),
(iii) the ability to accept a detachable magazine or a fixed magazine capacity of more than 5
rounds, and
(iv) a shotgun with a revolving cylinder.

Frames or receivers for the above are included, along with conversion kit..

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will:

Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any "semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General."

Note that Obama's pick for this office (Eric Holder, confirmation hearing set for Jan. 15) wrote a brief in the Heller case supporting the position that you have no right to have a working firearm in your own home.

In making this determination, the bill says, "there shall be a rebuttable presumption that a firearm procured for use by the United States military or any federal law enforcement agency is not particularly su itable for sporting purposes, and a firearm shall not be determined to be particularly suitable for sporting purposes solely because the firearm is suitable for use in a sporting event."

In plain English this means that ANY firearm ever obtained by federal officers or the military is not suitable for the public.

The last part is particularly clever, stating that a firearm doesn't have a sporting purpose just because it can be used for sporting purpose -- is that devious or what? And of course, "sporting purpose" is a rights infringement with no constitutional or historical support whatsoever, invented by domestic enemies of the right to keep and bear arms to further their cause of disarming the innocent.

Respectfully submitted,

Alan Korwin,

Author Gun Laws of America
http://www.gunlaws.com/gloa.htm
 

Ben H

Well-known member
We'll see how far they're willing to take it, will they grandfather existing ones like last time? If they try to force people to turn these in, it will be the spark.

This is exactly why I'm so against "sporterizing" the second. This is only their first step, the list will grow to include your scoped "sniper rifles".
 

kolanuraven

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Again...this is plainly stated as only FRAMEWORK....and NO the Dem's do not vote as whole massive block,.


Again, ' the sky is falling ' has become the mantra. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who needs to have a Uzi to hunt with......or a shotgun called a StreetSweeper????????
 

Sandhusker

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kolanuraven said:
Again...this is plainly stated as only FRAMEWORK....and NO the Dem's do not vote as whole massive block,.


Again, ' the sky is falling ' has become the mantra. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who needs to have a Uzi to hunt with......or a shotgun called a StreetSweeper????????

Fine, ban street sweepers. What problem have you just solved?
 

kolanuraven

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Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Again...this is plainly stated as only FRAMEWORK....and NO the Dem's do not vote as whole massive block,.


Again, ' the sky is falling ' has become the mantra. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who needs to have a Uzi to hunt with......or a shotgun called a StreetSweeper????????

Fine, ban street sweepers. What problem have you just solved?


Unlike YOU..an apparent out of work banker with plenty of time on his hands, I don't have all the answers to all the problems.

:roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Sandhusker

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kolanuraven said:
Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Again...this is plainly stated as only FRAMEWORK....and NO the Dem's do not vote as whole massive block,.


Again, ' the sky is falling ' has become the mantra. :roll: :roll: :roll:


Who needs to have a Uzi to hunt with......or a shotgun called a StreetSweeper????????

Fine, ban street sweepers. What problem have you just solved?


Unlike YOU..an apparent out of work banker with plenty of time on his hands, I don't have all the answers to all the problems.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Then what would be the purpose behind banning them?
 

hopalong

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Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Sandhusker said:
Fine, ban street sweepers. What problem have you just solved?


Unlike YOU..an apparent out of work banker with plenty of time on his hands, I don't have all the answers to all the problems.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Then what would be the purpose behind banning them?

She just stated she doesn't have any answers :D :D
 

hopalong

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If memory serves me they are already illegal in the U.S.A. due to barrel length.
The current US firearms laws listed the Striker and Protecta shotguns, as well as the Streetsweeper (an US-made Striker copy), as a destructive devices, which require special paperwork to be obtained by civilians. In some other countries (like the Russia) the Protecta shotguns can be sold to civilians only with barrels of certain lengths, and with two chambers blocked to maintain allowed 10-rounds capacity limit.
 

jigs

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Sandhusker is an out of work banker??? that bastard in the White House forgot to send you some bail out money huh???


and I was just finishing up a loan app. for you to OK.

it is ok, with no job, no skills, no future, you sound qualified to be a trust fund baby and go digging up bones on tax payers money....
 

Sandhusker

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Sandhusker said:
kolanuraven said:
Sandhusker said:
Fine, ban street sweepers. What problem have you just solved?


Unlike YOU..an apparent out of work banker with plenty of time on his hands, I don't have all the answers to all the problems.

:roll: :roll: :roll:

Then what would be the purpose behind banning them?

You libs have a hell of a time providing rational answers to explain your positions, don't you?
 

kolanuraven

Well-known member
jigs said:
Sandhusker is an out of work banker??? that bastard in the White House forgot to send you some bail out money huh???


and I was just finishing up a loan app. for you to OK.

it is ok, with no job, no skills, no future, you sound qualified to be a trust fund baby and go digging up bones on tax payers money....


No bank in Kansas will deal with you , huh?
 

jigs

Well-known member
I one time left a message at his bank requesting a loan to build a statue honoring Kansas State and Bill Snyder in Sandhuskers home town....

that is what I was getting at.
 
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