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Liberty Belle

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Now I want to be right up front with you libs - I got this in an email from a friend and I didn't check this for accuracy. I hope and pray that you will read this through and explain to us where it isn't factual. Please?


If Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) Could Enact All Of Her Campaign Proposals, Taxpayers Would Be Faced With Financing More Than $777.6 Billion In New Spending Over One White House Term.

Keep Reading For A Breakdown Of Her Proposals:

Updated November 26, 2007:
Hillary Proposed $250 Million Of "Emergency Assessment Grants" To Help States Conduct Emergency Infrastructure. “Hillary Clinton proposes $250 million of ‘Emergency Assessment Grants’ to help states conduct emergency infrastructure reviews of bridges and other critical infrastructure to ensure their immediate safety.”

Hillary Proposed $1 Billion Over 5 Years For Investment In Intercity Passenger Rail; Equal To $200 Million A Year; Multiplied By 4 Years = $800 Million. “She will increase federal investment in intercity passenger rail by $1 billion over 5 years in order to help finance capital projects. These investments are in addition to those made in Amtrak.”

Hillary Proposed To Double The Budget For The Department Of Transportation’s Congestion Reduction Programs, An Annual Increase Of $300 Million; Multiplied By 4 Years = $1.2 Billion. “Increase the budget for the Department of Transportation’s congestion reduction programs by approximately 50% to $600 million annually.”

Hillary Proposed To Spend $50 Million Annually On State And Local Telecommuting Initiatives; Multiplied By 4 Years = $200 Million. “Hillary will also invest up to $50 million annually in state and local telecommuting initiatives.”

Hillary Plans To Spend $1 Billion For The Development Of Affordable Housing Through Housing Trust Funds. “In order to encourage the development of affordable housing, Hillary will establish a $1 billion fund to support state, county, and municipal housing trust funds.”

Hillary Has Introduced Legislation And Campaigned To Create A U.S. Public Service Academy, At A Cost Of Approximately $200 Million Annually; Multiplied By 4 Years = $800 Million. “Sens. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.) and Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Reps. James P. Moran Jr. (D-Va.) and Christopher Shays (R-Conn.) re-introduced legislation to create a U.S. Public Service Academy. … The price tag would run about $200 million annually, not counting start-up costs, and that might be too much money for Congress to guarantee when it is under pressure to hold down federal spending in fiscal 2008 …” Hillary Clinton For President Website: “Hillary has proposed a comprehensive, 10-point plan to restore Americans’ confidence in their government by increasing transparency and cutting waste and corruption. Her plan includes: … Creating a public service academy.”

Hillary Would Reinstate The Office Of Technology Assessment. Sen. Clinton: “Way back in the 1990s, the White House had an Office of Technology Assessment that was charged with just one task: telling us the truth about science. … It’s time we put this office back in business, because our citizens should have the information they need about the issues that affect them.”

Hillary Would Double Funding For The Consumer Product Safety Commission, From $70 Million To $140 Million; Multiplied By 4 Years = 280 Million. “Double the funding for the CPSC [Consumer Product Safety Commission], from $70 million in the Senate bill this year to $140 million, with appropriate increases over the years. As President, Hillary will direct a portion of this money to improving the regulation of imports. … [The] CPSC desperately needs more resources to address the growing challenge of unsafe imported toys.”

Updated November 5, 2007:
Hillary Has Proposed A $150 Billion Energy Investment Plan Over 10 Years, Equal to $15 Billion Per Year; $15 Billion Multiplied By 4 Years = $60 Billion. “A $50 billion Strategic Energy Fund, paid for in part by oil companies, to fund investments in alternative energy. The SEF will finance one-third of the $150 billon ten-year investment in a new energy future contained in this plan.”

Updated October 17, 2007:
Hillary Proposed $1.75 Billion A Year In State Grants For Paid Family Leave And Child Care Programs; Multiplied By 4 Years = $7 Billion. “Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton … proposed giving $1 billion in grants to states that enact paid family leave laws and said that she would support requiring employers to provide workers seven days’ annual paid sick leave. … Mrs. Clinton also proposed tens of millions of additional dollars for block grants for child care programs. Together, the new proposals that Mrs. Clinton announced … in New Hampshire would cost $1.75 billion a year.”

Updated October 12, 2007:
Hillary Proposed An $8 Billion A Year College Affordability Program, Multiplied By 4 Years = $32 Billion. “And this week she unveiled … an $8 billion annual college affordability program.”

Updated October 11, 2007:
Hillary’s Health Care Plan Would Cost $110 Billion Per Year, Multiplied By 4 Years (One White House Term) = $440 Billion. “Clinton's price tag is $110 billion a year, but analysts say her [health care] plan will cost a lot more than that.”

Hillary Has Proposed 401(k) For All Americans, Funded In Part By The Government At A Cost Of Up To $25 Billion Per Year, Multiplied By 4 Years = $100 Billion. “Hillary Clinton unveiled her second-biggest proposal of the campaign so far – after health care -- a plan to make 401(k) retirement savings plans available to all Americans. … Clinton’s ‘American Retirement Accounts’ would cost about $20 to 25 billion each year, Clinton’s advisors said yesterday.”

Hillary’s Baby Bond Proposal Would Give $5,000 To Each Of The 4 Million Babies Born In The U.S. Each Year, Totaling $20 Billion Per Year, Multiplied By 4 Years = $80 Billion. “Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton said … that every child born in the United States should get a $5,000 ‘baby bond’ from the government … Approximately 4 million babies are born each year in the United States.”

“It Would Be Expensive -- About $20 Billion A Year -- And Clinton Offered No Way To Pay For It.” (Editorial, “Clinton's Baby Boondoggle,” The Chicago Tribune, 10/2/07)
For Public Transit, Hillary Would Spend $1.5 Billion Per Year, Multiplied By 4 Years = $6 Billion. “he proposed spending $1.5 billion per year for public transit …”

Hillary Would Spend $10 Billion On Bridges Over 10 Years, Equal To $1 Billion Per Year; $1 Billion Multiplied By 4 Years = $4 Billion. “After the Minnesota bridge collapse last month, she proposed … $10 billion over 10 years to redesign and reconstruct ailing bridges.”

Hillary Plans To Spend $1 Billion For At-Risk Mortgage Borrowers. “She has proposed $1 billion to help at-risk mortgage borrowers avoid foreclosure.”

Hillary Would Commit $10 Billion For Education In Developing Countries Over 5 Years, Equal To $2 Billion Per Year; $2 Billion Multiplied By 4 Years = $8 Billion. “Presidential hopeful Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton wants the U.S. government to commit $10 billion over five years to get young children in developing countries into school …”

Hillary Pledged $300 Million For “Second Chance Education.” “Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Rodham Clinton, vowing to ‘stop the revolving door from the streets to prison,’ pledged to invest $300 million as president into public-private programs for ‘second chance education’ and reintegrating ex-offenders into communities.”

Hillary Committed $36 Million For School Phys-Ed Programs. “Smaller-ticket items … [include] $36 million for school physical-education programs.”

Hillary’s Universal Pre-K Would Cost $5 Billion The First Year, And Over The Next 5 Years Annual Expenditures Would Increase To $10 Billion, Meaning At A Minimum It Would Cost $5 Billion Per Year Over The First 4 Years; $5 Billion Multiplied By 4 Years = $20 Billion. Hillary Clinton’s “Fact Sheet” On Universal Pre-K: “The federal government will allocate $5 billion in the first year to states to establish and administer universal Pre-K. Over the next five years, the federal commitment will increase to $10 billion as states increase their commitment to Pre-K.”

Hillary Would Increase The Number Of National Science Foundation Fellowships And Increase The Size Of Each Award, At An Annual Cost Of $378 Million; $378 Million Multiplied By 4 Years = Over 1.5 Billion. “Triple the number of NSF fellowships and increase the size of each award by 33 percent. … It is estimated that this would increase the annual cost of the program from $122 million to $500 million.”

She Would Double The NIH’s Budget Over 10 Years – An Additional $28 Billion, Equal To 2.8 Billion Per Year; $2.8 Billion Multiplied By 4 Years = $11.2 Billion. “At a recent cancer forum, Mrs. Clinton said she would ‘double’ the National Institute of Health's $28 billion budget … over 10 years.”

And Would Double The National Cancer Institute’s Budget Over 10 Years – An Additional $5 Billion, Equal To $500 Million Per Year; $500 Million Multiplied By 4 Years = $2 Billion. “At a recent cancer forum, Mrs. Clinton said she would ‘double’ … the National Cancer Institute's nearly $5 billion budget over 10 years.”
 

jigs

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only thing I do not see is where she is skimming off the top to line her pockets. I know she will do it, just a matter of findiong out where and how.
 
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Anonymous

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Compared to how many Trillion $ new spending we've had in this last idiots term--that has been spent overseas to the profit of foreign countries and big Corporate war industries- this seems like a pittance... :roll: What is Iraq projected to cost us $3 Trillion... :???:

I'm not a Hillary lover-- but it would be better spent if spent toward rebuilding US infrastructure and in the US at the benefit of US citizens- rather than doling it out for the profiteering of the corporate globalist merchantilists..... :( :( :( :mad:
 
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Anonymous

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Oldtimer said:
Compared to how many Trillion $ new spending we've had in this last idiots term--that has been spent overseas to the profit of foreign countries and big Corporate war industries- this seems like a pittance... :roll: What is Iraq projected to cost us $3 Trillion... :???:

I'm not a Hillary lover-- but it would be better spent if spent toward rebuilding US infrastructure and in the US at the benefit of US citizens- rather than doling it out for the profiteering of the corporate globalist merchantilists..... :( :( :( :mad:

Amen to this post.
 

Goodpasture

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Liberty Belle said:
Now I want to be right up front with you libs - I got this in an email from a friend and I didn't check this for accuracy.
Don't worry, we have long since quit expecting the truth from you. We are well aware that you prefer smear and fear over integrity.

Liberty Belle said:
I hope and pray that you will read this through and explain to us where it isn't factual. Please?
Why? Would you be tempted to change your mind? Or would you just say "Another liberal bashing bush?"
 

TSR

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Oldtimer said:
Compared to how many Trillion $ new spending we've had in this last idiots term--that has been spent overseas to the profit of foreign countries and big Corporate war industries- this seems like a pittance... :roll: What is Iraq projected to cost us $3 Trillion... :???:

I'm not a Hillary lover-- but it would be better spent if spent toward rebuilding US infrastructure and in the US at the benefit of US citizens- rather than doling it out for the profiteering of the corporate globalist merchantilists..... :( :( :( :mad:

I'm not necessarily a Hilary fan either. When Lincoln was president and a lot of work was being done on railroads by the government, his Sec. of Treasury told him he could buy the railroad ties much cheaper in Europe. Lincoln answered saying that we could, but that money would then stay in Europe, if we buy locally the money stays here.
What you said is true Otimer, sad but true.
 

don

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even if she did spend 777.6 billion wouldn't it do more good than peeing it into iraq for no good reason and a lousy result. it's less than dubya has spent on a totally wasteful misadventure.
 

Tex

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don said:
even if she did spend 777.6 billion wouldn't it do more good than peeing it into iraq for no good reason and a lousy result. it's less than dubya has spent on a totally wasteful misadventure.

We could have had all the change we wanted (legitimate wants) by undermining Saddam within and it would have cost almost nothing extra. All we would have had to do was to stop Saddam from using his military industrial complex to subdue the north and south.
 

passin thru

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Did ya notice, not one of our resident libs disputed these figures. Or even condemned these spending proposals.
It just turned into an attack on Bush.............it is awful sad when these libs defend their own by attacking others.
 

kolanuraven

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So , if what was posted is true she is going to add to the budgets of:
Nat'l Int of Science

Cancer Inst

Nat Ins of Health

Pre-K

Phys Ed.


So, by NOT wanting any monies spent toard these areas,this means that all you so called ' conservatives' want :

Students void of knowledge of science

No cancer research

No Pre-K

and with no Phys Ed

Which is a nutshell gives us generations of fat, dumb, cancer ridden people



Way to go conservatives!!!!
 

Red Robin

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Goodpasture said:
Liberty Belle said:
Now I want to be right up front with you libs - I got this in an email from a friend and I didn't check this for accuracy.
Don't worry, we have long since quit expecting the truth from you. We are well aware that you prefer smear and fear over integrity.
I don't appreciate you calling Liberty Belle a liar. She's a woman of integrity as far as I know and I've known her as she posts here longer than you have. You should rethink your statement.
 

Tex

Well-known member
Red Robin said:
Goodpasture said:
Liberty Belle said:
Now I want to be right up front with you libs - I got this in an email from a friend and I didn't check this for accuracy.
Don't worry, we have long since quit expecting the truth from you. We are well aware that you prefer smear and fear over integrity.
I don't appreciate you calling Liberty Belle a liar. She's a woman of integrity as far as I know and I've known her as she posts here longer than you have. You should rethink your statement.


rr, you are the one who just said goodpasture called liberty belle a liar. Just because you agree with her, and I haven't posted substantially against her, doesn't mean others can not disagree with her view of reality.

I think you need to re think your statement.
 

Goodpasture

Well-known member
Red Robin said:
I don't appreciate you calling Liberty Belle a liar.
I think what you think don't mean spit......
Red Robin said:
She's a woman of integrity as far as I know
And a ringing endorsement from an embarrassment to the human race is worth what?
Red Robin said:
and I've known her as she posts here longer than you have. You should rethink your statement.
You should rethink your who you support. It speaks more of their lack of integrity than anything else. You are a mean spirited, bigoted, ugly individual. Your endorsement in anything would be an embarrassment.
 

passin thru

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Lively political debate. Republicans, Democrats, independents, conservatives and even misguided liberals discuss politics and our government.

We can sure figure out where most of the(libs) fit. Macon knows you guys doesn't he.
 
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passin thru said:
Did ya notice, not one of our resident libs disputed these figures. Or even condemned these spending proposals.
It just turned into an attack on Bush.............it is awful sad when these libs defend their own by attacking others.

Well we only have one person to compare with--and that is the Bush!!! Now personally I'd like to see all that money going back to improving the US and paid to US infrastructure-- than going into the pockets of the Kuwaiti, AUE, Saudi Arabian, Indonesian, etc, etc. contractors of the world that are profiteering along with the Halliburtons/big corporates/etal of the US that are hiring cheap foreign labor to fullfill their cost plus unbid contracts-- the majority of which even Condosleezy Rice admits they don't have oversight paperwork to prove,,,, :( :( :(

If you think bringing up those admitted and/or proven problems is BASHING than you better reincarnate your buddy Me&Ma&Pa and go back to posting under that identity..... :roll: :wink: :( :(
 

passin thru

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If you think bringing up those admitted and/or proven problems is BASHING than you better reincarnate your buddy Me&Ma&Pa and go back to posting under that identity.....

Are you implying something.................if so be man enough and say it.........if not, why say anything.
 

Tex

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passin thru said:
If you think bringing up those admitted and/or proven problems is BASHING than you better reincarnate your buddy Me&Ma&Pa and go back to posting under that identity.....

Are you implying something.................if so be man enough and say it.........if not, why say anything.



Maybe this is what he was saying:

Well we only have one person to compare with--and that is the Bush!!! Now personally I'd like to see all that money going back to improving the US and paid to US infrastructure-- than going into the pockets of the Kuwaiti, AUE, Saudi Arabian, Indonesian, etc, etc. contractors of the world that are profiteering along with the Halliburtons/big corporates/etal of the US that are hiring cheap foreign labor to fullfill their cost plus unbid contracts-- the majority of which even Condosleezy Rice admits they don't have oversight paperwork to prove,,,,

You probably just missed it, passin.
 

passin thru

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Oh I caught it..................just felt it was filled with sleezy inuendo and didn't deserve a response. It is like many posts that I don't respond to due to their sleezy factor
 

Tex

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passin thru said:
Oh I caught it..................just felt it was filled with sleezy inuendo and didn't deserve a response. It is like many posts that I don't respond to due to their sleezy factor

I don't know if memanpa was just made up or not. I tend to think memanpa was real, and someone who was upset at things so much that he was unable to articulate in any other means than what was apparent. For that, I feel sorry for memanpa.

If memanpa was real, and not made up, there obviously needed to be some real healing.
 
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