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The majority of Americans voted for Obama?

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Anonymous

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Soapweed said:
FALSE. The majority voted for nobody.

Being apathetic is pathetic.

I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.
 

Soapweed

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
FALSE. The majority voted for nobody.

Being apathetic is pathetic.

I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

Both your state and your county had better turnout than did Nebraska (67.64%) and Cherry County (71.98%). Rural areas are usually less apathetic that their metropolitan counterparts.
 

Big Muddy rancher

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
FALSE. The majority voted for nobody.

Being apathetic is pathetic.

I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

What has the population of the county done?
Saskatchewan used to have low unemployment because everybody that wanted to work and couldn't find a job went to Alberta. At least that trend has turned around.
 

hypocritexposer

Well-known member
Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
FALSE. The majority voted for nobody.

Being apathetic is pathetic.

I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

What has the population of the county done?
Saskatchewan used to have low unemployment because everybody that wanted to work and couldn't find a job went to Alberta. At least that trend has turned around.


they came for the football, not the jobs. :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
FALSE. The majority voted for nobody.

Being apathetic is pathetic.

I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

What has the population of the county done?
Saskatchewan used to have low unemployment because everybody that wanted to work and couldn't find a job went to Alberta. At least that trend has turned around.

Population is increasing...School enrollment is up-- and its almost impossible to find a house to rent... Many business's looking for folks to hire... Police Dept needs two and Sheriffs Office just hired a kid from Sidney and need another one...All the shops/equipment dealers have been advertising for mechanics and partsmen- offering to train...All over town there are Help Wanted signs in the windows ...

My son was in a meeting the other day where BNSF topdogs said they are going to take back operation of the rail line going to Plentywood...
 

hypocritexposer

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Oldtimer said:
Population is increasing...School enrollment is up-- and its almost impossible to find a house to rent... Many business's looking for folks to hire... Police Dept needs two and Sheriffs Office just hired a kid from Sidney and need another one...All the shops/equipment dealers have been advertising for mechanics and partsmen- offering to train...All over town there are Help Wanted signs in the windows ...

My son was in a meeting the other day where BNSF topdogs said they are going to take back operation of the rail line going to Plentywood...


sounds just like the 50s :lol:
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

It helps when the county is 87% white, .23% black and 1.23% hispanic. All your numbers should be exceptional.
 

Mike

Well-known member
TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

The unemployment rate in Valley County dropped to just 3.8%. This is the lowest unemployment rate since 2008 for Valley County. In September the rate was 3.9 for Valley County.

It helps when the county is 87% white, .23% black and 1.23% hispanic. All your numbers should be exceptional.

I don't get his line of thinking either. The high unemployment rates across the country are in areas of high 'minority' populations, yet he thinks blacks & hispanics should have an equal say? It's obvious they are holding us back by taking far more than they are giving!
 
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Anonymous

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Mike said:
TexasBred said:
Oldtimer said:
I agree Soap..
And since lately you have been so interested in my Valley County-- I heard on the radio the other day where MT turnout topped 70%-- Valley County's topped 80%- and my precinct had over 90% turnout... :)


And we just got more good employment news (unless you are someone looking for help )....

It helps when the county is 87% white, .23% black and 1.23% hispanic. All your numbers should be exceptional.

I don't get his line of thinking either. The high unemployment rates across the country are in areas of high 'minority' populations, yet he thinks blacks & hispanics should have an equal say? It's obvious they are holding us back by taking far more than they are giving!

Maybe folks should do more taking care of their own areas-- one of the reasons I've always been a strong proponent of States rights and local control...Altho I realize on some issues and cases you need the strength of the masses that comes from the federal government...


Also- I - unlike you- believe in ALL of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution- and the words " all men are created equal"---- and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide... :(
 

TexasBred

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Oldtimer said:
Also- I - unlike you- believe in ALL of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution- and the words " all men are created equal"---- and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide... :(

Absolutely they are created equal. The change begins with the 1st breath.


Careful calling someone a KKK'er or a white supremacists...you could end up in court and he could end up owning your farm O. F.'er. [/u][/b]
 

Mike

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OT wrote:
one of the reasons I've always been a strong proponent of States rights and local control

Flip-flop, flip-flop. You have advocated "Federalism" way too many times on this forum to make this a true statement.

Liar. :roll:
 

Mike

Well-known member
OT wrote:
Also- I - unlike you- believe in ALL of our Declaration of Independence and Constitution- and the words " all men are created equal"-

You might read the SCOTUS decision in the Dred Scott case.
 

Mike

Well-known member
OT wrote:
and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide...

First of all, that is a very serious charge against someone. Genocide?

But then again, the very land we live on and own was ceded by the use of "Genocide", as was advocated by a certain William Tecumseh Sherman, Gen. U.S. Army.

Are you proud of this too?

The notion that Sherman's army was motivated by a belief that all men are created equal is belied by the further fact that just three months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox the very same army commenced a campaign of ethnic genocide against the Plains Indians. In July of 1865 Sherman was put in charge of the Military District of the Missouri (all land west of the Mississippi) and given the assignment to eradicate the Plains Indians in order to make way for the federally subsidized transcontinental railroad. Like Lincoln, Sherman was a friend of Grenville Dodge, the chief engineer of the project. He was also a railroad investor and he lobbied his brother, Senator John Sherman, to allocate federal funds for the transcontinental railroad. "We are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians stop and check the progress of the railroad," he wrote to General Grant in 1867 (Fellman, p. 264). As Fellman writes:

[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as "the final solution of the Indian problem," which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress (emphasis added).

Another Sherman biographer, John F. Marszalek, points out in Sherman: A Soldier's Passion for Order, that "Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed recalcitrant Southerners during the war and newly freed people after the war: resisters to the legitimate forces of an orderly society," by which he meant the central government. Moreover, writes Marszalek, Sherman's philosophy was that "since the inferior Indians refused to step aside so superior American culture could create success and progress, they had to be driven out of the way as the Confederates had been driven back into the Union."

"Most of the other generals who took a direct role in the Indian wars, writes Marszalek, "were, like Sherman, [Union] Civil War luminaries." This included "John Pope, O.O. Howard, Nelson A. Miles, Alfred H. Terry, E.O.C. Ord, C.C. Augeur, and R.S. Canby. General Winfield Scott Hancock should be added to this list of "luminaries." Among the colonels, "George Armstrong Custer and Benjamin Grierson were the most famous."

Sherman and General Phillip Sheridan were associated with the statement that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian." The problem with the Indians, Sherman said, was that "they did not make allowance for the rapid growth of the white race" (Marszalek, p. 390). And, "both races cannot use this country in common" (Fellman, p. 263).

Sherman's theory of white racial superiority is what led him to the policy of waging war against the Indians "till the Indians are all killed or taken to a country where they can be watched." As Fellman (p. 264) writes:

Sherman planted a racist tautology: Some Indians are thieving, killing rascals fit for death; all Indians look alike; therefore, to get some we must eliminate all . . . deduced from this racist tautology . . . the less destructive policy would be racial cleansing of the land . . .

Accordingly, Sherman wrote to Grant: "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Writing two days later to his brother John, General Sherman said: "I suppose the Sioux must be exterminated . . ." (Fellman, p. 264).
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Mike said:
The notion that Sherman's army was motivated by a belief that all men are created equal is belied by the further fact that just three months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox the very same army commenced a campaign of ethnic genocide against the Plains Indians. In July of 1865 Sherman was put in charge of the Military District of the Missouri (all land west of the Mississippi) and given the assignment to eradicate the Plains Indians in order to make way for the federally subsidized transcontinental railroad. Like Lincoln, Sherman was a friend of Grenville Dodge, the chief engineer of the project. He was also a railroad investor and he lobbied his brother, Senator John Sherman, to allocate federal funds for the transcontinental railroad. "We are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians stop and check the progress of the railroad," he wrote to General Grant in 1867 (Fellman, p. 264). As Fellman writes:

[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as "the final solution of the Indian problem," which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress (emphasis added).

Another Sherman biographer, John F. Marszalek, points out in Sherman: A Soldier's Passion for Order, that "Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed recalcitrant Southerners during the war and newly freed people after the war: resisters to the legitimate forces of an orderly society," by which he meant the central government. Moreover, writes Marszalek, Sherman's philosophy was that "since the inferior Indians refused to step aside so superior American culture could create success and progress, they had to be driven out of the way as the Confederates had been driven back into the Union."

"Most of the other generals who took a direct role in the Indian wars, writes Marszalek, "were, like Sherman, [Union] Civil War luminaries." This included "John Pope, O.O. Howard, Nelson A. Miles, Alfred H. Terry, E.O.C. Ord, C.C. Augeur, and R.S. Canby. General Winfield Scott Hancock should be added to this list of "luminaries." Among the colonels, "George Armstrong Custer and Benjamin Grierson were the most famous."

Sherman and General Phillip Sheridan were associated with the statement that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian." The problem with the Indians, Sherman said, was that "they did not make allowance for the rapid growth of the white race" (Marszalek, p. 390). And, "both races cannot use this country in common" (Fellman, p. 263).

Sherman's theory of white racial superiority is what led him to the policy of waging war against the Indians "till the Indians are all killed or taken to a country where they can be watched." As Fellman (p. 264) writes:

Sherman planted a racist tautology: Some Indians are thieving, killing rascals fit for death; all Indians look alike; therefore, to get some we must eliminate all . . . deduced from this racist tautology . . . the less destructive policy would be racial cleansing of the land . . .

Accordingly, Sherman wrote to Grant: "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Writing two days later to his brother John, General Sherman said: "I suppose the Sioux must be exterminated . . ." (Fellman, p. 264).


oops...forgot to mention that the remaining population of OT's county is made up primarily of native americans.
 

Mike

Well-known member
Mike said:
OT wrote:
and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide...

First of all, that is a very serious charge against someone. Genocide?

But then again, the very land we live on and own was ceded by the use of "Genocide", as was advocated by a certain William Tecumseh Sherman, Gen. U.S. Army, and many others.

Are you proud of this too?

The notion that Sherman's army was motivated by a belief that all men are created equal is belied by the further fact that just three months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox the very same army commenced a campaign of ethnic genocide against the Plains Indians. In July of 1865 Sherman was put in charge of the Military District of the Missouri (all land west of the Mississippi) and given the assignment to eradicate the Plains Indians in order to make way for the federally subsidized transcontinental railroad. Like Lincoln, Sherman was a friend of Grenville Dodge, the chief engineer of the project. He was also a railroad investor and he lobbied his brother, Senator John Sherman, to allocate federal funds for the transcontinental railroad. "We are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians stop and check the progress of the railroad," he wrote to General Grant in 1867 (Fellman, p. 264). As Fellman writes:

[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as "the final solution of the Indian problem," which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress (emphasis added).

Another Sherman biographer, John F. Marszalek, points out in Sherman: A Soldier's Passion for Order, that "Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed recalcitrant Southerners during the war and newly freed people after the war: resisters to the legitimate forces of an orderly society," by which he meant the central government. Moreover, writes Marszalek, Sherman's philosophy was that "since the inferior Indians refused to step aside so superior American culture could create success and progress, they had to be driven out of the way as the Confederates had been driven back into the Union."

"Most of the other generals who took a direct role in the Indian wars, writes Marszalek, "were, like Sherman, [Union] Civil War luminaries." This included "John Pope, O.O. Howard, Nelson A. Miles, Alfred H. Terry, E.O.C. Ord, C.C. Augeur, and R.S. Canby. General Winfield Scott Hancock should be added to this list of "luminaries." Among the colonels, "George Armstrong Custer and Benjamin Grierson were the most famous."

Sherman and General Phillip Sheridan were associated with the statement that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian." The problem with the Indians, Sherman said, was that "they did not make allowance for the rapid growth of the white race" (Marszalek, p. 390). And, "both races cannot use this country in common" (Fellman, p. 263).

Sherman's theory of white racial superiority is what led him to the policy of waging war against the Indians "till the Indians are all killed or taken to a country where they can be watched." As Fellman (p. 264) writes:

Sherman planted a racist tautology: Some Indians are thieving, killing rascals fit for death; all Indians look alike; therefore, to get some we must eliminate all . . . deduced from this racist tautology . . . the less destructive policy would be racial cleansing of the land . . .

Accordingly, Sherman wrote to Grant: "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Writing two days later to his brother John, General Sherman said: "I suppose the Sioux must be exterminated . . ." (Fellman, p. 264).
 

Faster horses

Well-known member
Mike said:
Mike said:
OT wrote:
and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide...

First of all, that is a very serious charge against someone. Genocide?

But then again, the very land we live on and own was ceded by the use of "Genocide", as was advocated by a certain William Tecumseh Sherman, Gen. U.S. Army, and many others.

Are you proud of this too?

The notion that Sherman's army was motivated by a belief that all men are created equal is belied by the further fact that just three months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox the very same army commenced a campaign of ethnic genocide against the Plains Indians. In July of 1865 Sherman was put in charge of the Military District of the Missouri (all land west of the Mississippi) and given the assignment to eradicate the Plains Indians in order to make way for the federally subsidized transcontinental railroad. Like Lincoln, Sherman was a friend of Grenville Dodge, the chief engineer of the project. He was also a railroad investor and he lobbied his brother, Senator John Sherman, to allocate federal funds for the transcontinental railroad. "We are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians stop and check the progress of the railroad," he wrote to General Grant in 1867 (Fellman, p. 264). As Fellman writes:

[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as "the final solution of the Indian problem," which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress (emphasis added).

Another Sherman biographer, John F. Marszalek, points out in Sherman: A Soldier's Passion for Order, that "Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed recalcitrant Southerners during the war and newly freed people after the war: resisters to the legitimate forces of an orderly society," by which he meant the central government. Moreover, writes Marszalek, Sherman's philosophy was that "since the inferior Indians refused to step aside so superior American culture could create success and progress, they had to be driven out of the way as the Confederates had been driven back into the Union."

"Most of the other generals who took a direct role in the Indian wars, writes Marszalek, "were, like Sherman, [Union] Civil War luminaries." This included "John Pope, O.O. Howard, Nelson A. Miles, Alfred H. Terry, E.O.C. Ord, C.C. Augeur, and R.S. Canby. General Winfield Scott Hancock should be added to this list of "luminaries." Among the colonels, "George Armstrong Custer and Benjamin Grierson were the most famous."

Sherman and General Phillip Sheridan were associated with the statement that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian." The problem with the Indians, Sherman said, was that "they did not make allowance for the rapid growth of the white race" (Marszalek, p. 390). And, "both races cannot use this country in common" (Fellman, p. 263).

Sherman's theory of white racial superiority is what led him to the policy of waging war against the Indians "till the Indians are all killed or taken to a country where they can be watched." As Fellman (p. 264) writes:

Sherman planted a racist tautology: Some Indians are thieving, killing rascals fit for death; all Indians look alike; therefore, to get some we must eliminate all . . . deduced from this racist tautology . . . the less destructive policy would be racial cleansing of the land . . .

Accordingly, Sherman wrote to Grant: "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Writing two days later to his brother John, General Sherman said: "I suppose the Sioux must be exterminated . . ." (Fellman, p. 264).

How disgusting. I'm not sympathetic of what the white man did to the Indians.
They were a proud people and look what has happened to them. Another
government failure.
 
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Anonymous

Guest
Mike said:
Mike said:
OT wrote:
and could never support your and your brotherhood of the KKK's and white supremacists answer-- genocide...

First of all, that is a very serious charge against someone. Genocide?

But then again, the very land we live on and own was ceded by the use of "Genocide", as was advocated by a certain William Tecumseh Sherman, Gen. U.S. Army, and many others.

Are you proud of this too?

The notion that Sherman's army was motivated by a belief that all men are created equal is belied by the further fact that just three months after General Robert E. Lee surrendered at Appomattox the very same army commenced a campaign of ethnic genocide against the Plains Indians. In July of 1865 Sherman was put in charge of the Military District of the Missouri (all land west of the Mississippi) and given the assignment to eradicate the Plains Indians in order to make way for the federally subsidized transcontinental railroad. Like Lincoln, Sherman was a friend of Grenville Dodge, the chief engineer of the project. He was also a railroad investor and he lobbied his brother, Senator John Sherman, to allocate federal funds for the transcontinental railroad. "We are not going to let a few thieving, ragged Indians stop and check the progress of the railroad," he wrote to General Grant in 1867 (Fellman, p. 264). As Fellman writes:

[T]he great triumvirate of the Union Civil War effort [Grant, Sherman and Sheridan] formulated and enacted military Indian policy until reaching, by The 1880s, what Sherman sometimes referred to as "the final solution of the Indian problem," which he defined as killing hostile Indians and segregating their pauperized survivors in remote places . . . . These men applied their shared ruthlessness, born of their Civil War experiences, against a people all three despised, in the name of Civilization and Progress (emphasis added).

Another Sherman biographer, John F. Marszalek, points out in Sherman: A Soldier's Passion for Order, that "Sherman viewed Indians as he viewed recalcitrant Southerners during the war and newly freed people after the war: resisters to the legitimate forces of an orderly society," by which he meant the central government. Moreover, writes Marszalek, Sherman's philosophy was that "since the inferior Indians refused to step aside so superior American culture could create success and progress, they had to be driven out of the way as the Confederates had been driven back into the Union."

"Most of the other generals who took a direct role in the Indian wars, writes Marszalek, "were, like Sherman, [Union] Civil War luminaries." This included "John Pope, O.O. Howard, Nelson A. Miles, Alfred H. Terry, E.O.C. Ord, C.C. Augeur, and R.S. Canby. General Winfield Scott Hancock should be added to this list of "luminaries." Among the colonels, "George Armstrong Custer and Benjamin Grierson were the most famous."

Sherman and General Phillip Sheridan were associated with the statement that "the only good Indian is a dead Indian." The problem with the Indians, Sherman said, was that "they did not make allowance for the rapid growth of the white race" (Marszalek, p. 390). And, "both races cannot use this country in common" (Fellman, p. 263).

Sherman's theory of white racial superiority is what led him to the policy of waging war against the Indians "till the Indians are all killed or taken to a country where they can be watched." As Fellman (p. 264) writes:

Sherman planted a racist tautology: Some Indians are thieving, killing rascals fit for death; all Indians look alike; therefore, to get some we must eliminate all . . . deduced from this racist tautology . . . the less destructive policy would be racial cleansing of the land . . .

Accordingly, Sherman wrote to Grant: "We must act with vindictive earnestness against the Sioux, even to their extermination, men, women and children." Writing two days later to his brother John, General Sherman said: "I suppose the Sioux must be exterminated . . ." (Fellman, p. 264).


So what are you two trying to say--are you advocating that the only good nonwhite is a dead one :???: :(
 

hopalong

Well-known member
Are you really that dense oldtimer ???to get that from the post shows just how assinine you are,,,,Why don't you grow up and become man instead of the wanna be you are...
 

TexasBred

Well-known member
Oldtimer said:
So what are you two trying to say--are you advocating that the only good nonwhite is a dead one :???: :(

I think Mike is simply replying to your comment saying he was a KKK'er, white supremacist. answer...genocide..
 
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