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The Myth Of Slavery & The Civil War

Mike

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http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=346

The "Tariff of Abominations", the Tariff of 1825, had caused a crash of cotton prices of more than 50%, causing great economic hardship in the South. The South was not going to accept another high tariff to protect Northern economic interests at their expense.

http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/jackson-lincoln/timeline-terms/tariff-1828-tariff-abomination
 

TexasBred

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Mike said:
http://www.independent.org/newsroom/article.asp?id=346

The "Tariff of Abominations", the Tariff of 1825, had caused a crash of cotton prices of more than 50%, causing great economic hardship in the South. The South was not going to accept another high tariff to protect Northern economic interests at their expense.

http://www.gilderlehrman.org/history-by-era/jackson-lincoln/timeline-terms/tariff-1828-tariff-abomination

Actually the so called "Tariff of Abomination was passed in 1828 and a South Carolinian was VP at the time and Jackson president. If it was so detrimental to the south and a major cause of the war why did it take well over 30 years for them to take action??
 

Mike

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Those crippling Import Tariffs started years before any states seceded.

P.S. Jackson wasn't Pres in 1928.

The Tariff of 1828 was a law/bill that started the U.S. down the road to a split between North and South. Although there were many issues that tore the nation apart, this tariff, also known as the Tariff of Abominations, would benefit Northern states while crippling the economies of the South. John C. Calhoun of South Carolina would be the leader of the bill's opposition, called the Nullification Crisis, which was based in states' rights. The tariff would be one of the first items to start the rumblings of secession, an issue that would lead to the Civil War. The tariff and subsequent nullification combined with states' rights issues leading to secession would be a drastic one-two punch.
 

Steve

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If it was so detrimental to the south and a major cause of the war why did it take well over 30 years for them to take action??

Not to take sides.. but we have "put up with Obama for 8 years", and tried to change the direction of this country with the formation of the TEA Party, and election of conservatives.

We have thrown out many of our own party members from leadership from the local level to the speaker of the house by our actions and votes

Many Americans would NEVER take up arms until it looked as if there was no other peaceful choice. After years of those in DC ignoring US we want to be heard, and we still hold out hope that the political process is not broken beyond repair even if it takes US our lifetime to fix it



( back in the late 1800's a life time was a little over 40 )

it is important to know and understand history so we do not make the same mistakes, but re-litigating the civil war is often pointless.
 

Mike

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but re-litigating the civil war is often pointless

Yes, but there are still those that are trying inject "White Guilt" into the masses. As if we had something to do with practices of those those days.
 

Steve

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Mike said:
but re-litigating the civil war is often pointless

Yes, but there are still those that are trying inject "White Guilt" into the masses. As if we had something to do with practices of those those days.

I have NO white guilt.. no guilt of any kind.. most folk who feel sorry for themselves or feel like they have been victims all their lives get in the position they are in all by themselves.
 

TexasBred

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I don't think any of us have any white guilt. Never crosses my mind to blame myself for what happened 300 years ago forward. But it does not good either to keep on pulling out confederate flags and worshipping leaders of the confederacy. Many southerners want to say the flag of the army of Northern Virginia was not the confederate flag, yet that is the one they want to fly and flaunt. If you said "Fly the Confederate Flag all you want", and make them fly the official confederate flag nobody would want to do it because it would not offend anyone and no one would recognize it. The past is accurate......history is little more than each man's opinion.
 

Steve

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For many it isn't abotu the confederate war, it is that many rural people (rednecks ect) like myself want to fly a symbol of individualism,

I am not southern so the confederate flag never appealed to me,.. I fly the American flag, but see others who do so out of ritual and routine. add in that many "banner" usages violate the flag etiquette or code. http://www.ushistory.org/betsy/flagcode.htm

the Gladsen flag seems like one of the few options left. a flag that says I am an American but I will stand up for the countries ideals when others hide their American flags

so to be honest.. what are our options... strictly follow American flag code and still get an occasional reminder that we are doing it wrong..


( not sure how loving my country is doing it wrong? ) but they have it in writing so it must be :roll:

so for now anyone on the right who wants to show their pride have several choices.. we can fly the mexican, al-quiada, greenpeice or some other lefty flag until the get the hypocrisy of it.. or we can find a more suitable replacement ...
 

Traveler

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Hey Steve, I like the Gadsden flag, too.

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