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The Obama narrative.

Steve

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The Obama narrative.

but is that what happened?

A graphic picture has emerged online of Libyan civilians holding the unconscious body of Chris Stevens, the US ambassador who was one of four diplomatic staff killed during an attack on the American consulate in Benghazi.

The picture appears to show the civilians dragging Stevens through the streets in search of help, after the attack which ultimately killed him as well as three other staff, including information management officer Sean Smith.



The circumstances of his death remain unlear.

"The official said the ambassador and three other staff were killed when gunmen fired rockets at his car," an unnamed official told Reuters.

there are now reports

reports indicate the Ambassador Stevens' dead body was dragged through the streets

IBD and other reports continue to suggest that "protesters" were attempting to transport Stevens to a hospital, but clearly a mob is parading the body around in frenzy of victory.

and now outright accusations...
It's come to this: Libyan 'protesters' dragged dead body of US ambasador through the streets of Benghazi

This is how low President Hussein Obama has dragged the once proud United States of America. The man whose body (he might have been alive at this point but he might not) is being dragged through the streets in this picture is none other than Christopher Stevens, the United States Ambassador to Libya. Although the early reports said his car was hit by a rocket, it now appears far more likely that he and three embassy employees (two of them US Marines) were dragged from their embassy car and lynched by the 'protesters'

and more reports are surfacing claiming the "ambassador dragged out of car and HUNG by crowd and dragged through the streets. "

given the Obama administrations need for a clean narrative.. and the radical muslims history in doing exactly what they are now accused of in foreign news sources. I have looked at the pictures,.. and am not sure who to believe on this one...
 

Steve

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Via Al Ahram English:

Al-Jazeera’s Suleiman Idrissi in Benghazi reported that the ambassador had been paying a short visit to the Eastern city, when the US building came under attack.

Security sources told the pan-Arab news agency that Stevens died of suffocation. The bodies of the dead were transported to the Benghazi international airport, to be flown to Tripoli and then onwards to a major US airbase in Germany, Al Jazeera added…..
 

Steve

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Libya's deputy Interior Minister, Wanis al Sharif, placed the blame for last night's assault on the US Consulate on militias loyal to former President Muammar Gaddafi, and also blamed the US for not with withdrawing its personnel from its diplomatic missions.

"They are to blame simply for not withdrawing their personnel from the premises, despite the fact that there was a similar incident when [al-Qaeda second-in-command and Libyan citizen] Abu Yahya al-Libi was killed. It was necessary that they take precautions. It was their fault that they did not take the necessary precautions," he said, according to Al Jazeera.

takes a lot of gall to blame the victims..
 

okfarmer

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I work with someone who has been to Egypt many times and even during the past year. She says that the entire country is absolutely corrupt. You can't believe anything anyone says.

Kinda like Washington, but instead it is the entire country. Everything is done by backdoor deals. Someone always knows someone.
 

loomixguy

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My wife has an aunt who was married to an Egyptian and lived in Cairo for over 15 years. She became fluent in Arabic, and, though she never said so, I'm pretty damn sure she converted to Islam. They had a daughter who is 1/2 Egyptian and 1/2 Filipino. She is smart and is currently going to school in Washington DC, on our dime.

Somehow, when Uncle Harvey died, the aunt got a visa to the US, and the daughter stayed with relatives in Cairo until she could legally come to this country. The aunt was still in Cairo on 9/11, and said folks were dancing in the street when they got the news of 3,000 dead Americans.

My Boss called her aunt yesterday and they talked about the happenings in Egypt and Libya. I had made the comment that if the daughter were still in Cairo, she would be there protesting and cheering along with the others. The Boss asked her aunt if this would be the case.....YES!!! replied the aunt.

I fail to see how folks can immigrate here and enjoy the many things the taxpayers provide, and yet hate this country and it's people so much. I blame a lot of it not just on radical Islam, but just plain old Islam itself.

Corruption in Egypt? You damn skippy! It's just like breathing.
 

Steve

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Ultraconservative Islamists also were suspected of being behind the Benghazi attack. Advocating a strict interpretation of Islam, they have bulldozed Sufi shrines and mosques that house tombs in the Libyan capital, Tripoli, and other cities, including ancient sites dating back to 5,000 years ago

“We started shooting at them, and then some other people also threw hand-made bombs over the fences and started the fires in the buildings,” said 17-year-old Hamam, who took part in the assault and refused to give his last name.

“There was some Libyan security for the embassy outside but when the hand-made bombs went off they ran off and left,” said Hamam, who said he saw an American die in front of him in the mayhem that ensued. He said the body was covered in ash.

Hamam said. “The protesters were running around the compound just looking for Americans, they just wanted to find an American so they could catch one.”


It was not immediately clear precisely how or where California-born ambassador Christopher Stevens was killed during the assault. Stevens was a key player when the Obama administration supported the anti-Gadhafi insurgency.

U.S. consular staff were rushed to a safe house after the initial attack, Libya’s Deputy Interior Minister Wanis Al-Sharif said. An evacuation plane with U.S. commando units then arrived from Tripoli to evacuate them from the house.

“It was supposed to be a secret place and we were surprised the armed groups knew about it. There was shooting,” Sharif said. Two U.S. personnel were killed there, he said. Two other people were killed at the main consular building and between 12 and 17 wounded.

Ambassador Chris Stevens, 52, died as he and a group of embassy employees went to the consulate to try to evacuate staff as the building came under attack by a mob firing machine-guns and rocket-propelled grenades. He was the first U.S. ambassador to be killed in the line of duty since 1979.

The Libyan doctor who treated U.S. ambassador Chris Stevens says the diplomat died of severe asphyxiation and that he tried for 90 minutes to revive him.

Ziad Abu Zeid told The Associated Press on Wednesday that Stevens was brought to the Benghazi Medical Center by Libyans the night before, with no other Americans and that initially no one realized he was the ambassador.

I have less doubt today.. about Obama and Clinton "creating a narrative".. as more accounts come out several things are clear...

The Ambassador died of suffocation or asphyxiation

The Ambassador was carried or drug through the streets as some took photos of him dieing..

and the protestors (terrorists) planned the attack

and was not because of the movie..

so either the Obama narrative is either a lie or based on "wanting to believe" that muslims are not capable of horrendous acts..

by the look on Hillery's face she was deeply disturbed as Obama coldly made his statement.. I would say she knew the truth.
 

Steve

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Traveler said:
From the Religion of Peace. The Ambassador was raped before he was killed. Sickening.

http://iowntheworld.com/blog/?p=149468&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

when I first read it.. I went to find the source.. Lebanon news..

would they have first hand knowledge.. or make it up?

This and other disturbing news could explain the shaken look Clinton had as she listened to Obama speak..

Hillery Clinton as the head of state and a friend of the ambassador was deeply disturbed. she would have been briefed and would know the facts..

sadly we do not...
 

TexasBred

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okfarmer said:
I work with someone who has been to Egypt many times and even during the past year. She says that the entire country is absolutely corrupt. You can't believe anything anyone says.

Kinda like Washington, but instead it is the entire country. Everything is done by backdoor deals. Someone always knows someone.

Petty common for arabs and muslims in general. They're all for sale, they don't do anything for nothing and once they're bought and paid for they're for sale again. It's just the mentality. Obama should know, they don't even trust their father or brother much less a "high yeller" from Kenya.
 

Steve

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As team Obama cling to the "narrative" Americans are seeing the truth..

even today as the State department refuses to answer any questions concerning the attacks.. a video emerges..

I was not going to post a link to it.. while it is not overly graphic. it does sicken a decent person...

but two of the original links have been taken down..

this is the footage edited from the beginning of the published video..
warning said:
CAUTION This video contains GRAPHIC content. This video was uploaded by a YouTube user in an Arabic language portion of the site claiming it was authentic raw footage of United States Ambassador Chris Stevens

This video is newsworthy to the Presidential administration because, if true, it apparently contradicts the statements made by President Obama's administration, and by his officials in the State Department, that the body of Ambassador Stevens was treated with respect and that the attack was not pre-meditated, but rather was a spontaneous reaction to a movie trailer about Islam.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzGZEFrODP8

The authenticity of this video or its source has not been verified, and likely cannot be verified ever. However, the body of the depicted victim of the video appears to be clothed in the same shirt, pants and belt as seen in one authenticated photo of Ambassador Stevens after his death.

Various early translations are contradictory as to whether the Ambassador is alive or dead at the beginning of the video, and also as to the meaning of the cries of Alahu Akbar in the crowd, as to whether those were in celebration of retrieving a live or dead body. Nonetheless, Ambassador Stevens did not appear to be conscious. The historic significance of the video likely is as to the care or lack of care given the Ambassador and the manner of handling of his remains.



but as you read the 'narrative".. look at the timeline...

10.15pm: The assailants gain entry to the complex and the main building is engulfed in flames.

They find Mr Smith dead and pulled him from the building, but no sign of Mr Stevens. They are driven from the building by thick black smoke, fire and gunfire.

10.45pm: Security staff try to retake the main building but come under heavy fire and retreat.

11.20pm: A second attempt to retake the main building is successful. Fighting moves to the annex.

1.15am: Mr Stevens arrives at a nearby hospital - it is not known who took him. A doctor there has told the BBC that he spent an hour trying to revive him,


here is another. less graphic video with most of the more graphic footage edited out.
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http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/17/youtube-video-christopher-stevens-after-libya-attack.html

and this outrageous claim
An amateur video shows what appears to be a crowd of Libyans taking Christopher Stevens to a safe room—and celebrating that he’s alive.

witnesses said residents had found Stevens behind a locked iron gate in the consulate, suggesting that initial reports of the ambassador having made it to a safe room in the building when militants attacked the consulate were correct.

The video shows a chaotic scene with many people talking at once. It is not always easy to hear what they are saying. But some of the exchanges include:

“I think he’s dead,” one Libyan says.

“Bring him out, man! Bring him out,” another responds and then says, “The man is alive. Move out of the way.” Then there is much shouting with people screaming, “Bring him out, man,” and “He’s still alive.”

Then several men shout: “Alive, alive! God is great.” There are cries about getting him to a car.

at least "two hours later"..

Doctors at the hospital Stevens was taken to say he was barely alive on arrival,

did the Libyans do what is in the Obama narrative,.. or what is reported from witnesses in the foreign press..

it is hard to believe a guy who is still claiming it was not a premeditated attack but just outrage over a movie none of them had seen..
 
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