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The Ongoing French Civil War

Mike

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BRUSSELS, Oct. 13 (UPI) -- Turf conscious bloggers in Paris' rundown, mostly Muslim, suburban immigrant housing estates rival in violent messages that threaten to beat senseless and even kill any intruder caught in "our ghetto." Almost every word is misspelled, in both argot slang and pidgin French. And these are not empty threats. An average of 14 policemen a day are injured in bloody clashes with jobless youngsters.

France's Interior Ministry said 2,500 police officers had been "wounded" this year. The head of the hard-line trade union "Action Police" Michel Thooris wrote to Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy to describe conditions in housing developments turned slums as "intifada." Police cruisers are pelted daily with stones and "Molotov cocktails" (gasoline-filled bottles with burning wicks that explode on impact) and Thooris said cops assigned to what was rapidly degenerating into "free fire zones" should be protected in armored vehicles. Entire tall buildings empty into the streets to chase policemen and free an arrested comrade.

"We are in a state of civil war, orchestrated by radical Islamists," Thooris told journalists. Sarkozy, the leading center-right candidate for next year's presidential election, responded by dispatching cops in body armor, equipped with automatic weapons and rubber bullets, stun and teargas grenades into several Paris suburbs with orders to "restore control" from "organized crime." In one recent clash 250 cops dispersed a 100-strong Muslim gang armed with baseball bats.

The chaotic conditions in suburbs like Clichy-sous-Bois, Montfermeil and St. Denis have grown progressively worse since the nationwide Muslim riots in November 2005 that torched 10,000 vehicles.

Prime Minister Dominique de Villepin recently criticized as "overdrawn" President Bush's frequent reference to the "global war on terror." But the Iraq war did not appear to be part of the combustible mix in Muslim "ghettos" outside Paris. Despair, organized crime, and hatred of authority are its principal ingredients.

For the United States, Islamist extremism is seen as an external problem. For the Europeans, it's internal and far more complex than a war on terrorism. Muslim minorities are spawning rightwing extremism. In the Belgian port city of Antwerp a week ago, the Vlaams Belang (VB, or Flemish Interest), Europe's most extreme rightwing political formation, almost captured city hall with 33.5 percent of the vote. A Socialist coalition kept VB at bay with 35 percent. Nationwide, VB, which advocates secession of the Flanders and severe restrictions on Muslim immigration, scored 20 percent.

In France, Jean-Marie Le Pen's far right National Front appears to have opted for a can't-lick-'em-join-'em strategy, a rapprochement with France's large immigrant Muslim community -- with undertones of anti-Semitism. Le Pen's reasoning appears to be the recognition that Islamicization is in France to stay with 25 percent of France's under 20 population Muslim (40 percent in some cities), 2nd and 3rd generation North Africans. FN's tough stance on immigration is tempered by support for Arab and Islamist causes in the Middle East (Hamas and Hezbollah are two favorites). There are an estimated 6 to 8 million Muslims among France's 62 million and Islam is now France's second religion. Mosques are well attended on Fridays; churches aren't on Sundays. France's prison inmates are over 50 percent Muslim

Le Pen's strategic advisers argue the FN must drop its founding mythology and forget about the once popular image of a modern Joan of Arc resisting the invasion of Muslim hordes. Americans and Jews are the new targets. But the party's Christian right-wingers do not agree and are defecting in large numbers. The Islamist threat is their main concern and they are finding a new political home in MPF, Mouvement Pour la France, which is anti-European Union and anti-Muslim, and given only 7 percent of registered voters in a recent poll. Le Pen's followers have dropped back from 11 percent to 9 percent.

Anti-Semitic incidents have proliferated in France in recent times, but the news seldom makes it across the Atlantic and when it does, it must still fight to be heard above the constant melodrama of constant trivia. A Jewish sports club in Toulouse attacked with Molotov cocktails; in Bondy, 15 men beat up members of a Jewish soccer team with metal bars and sticks; the bus that takes Jewish children to school in Aubervilliers attacked thrice in the past 14 months, synagogues in Strasbourg and Marseilles and a Jewish school in Creteil firebombed in recent weeks; in Toulouse, a gunman opened fire -- all ignored in the mainstream media in the U.S.

The metropolitan Paris police tabulated 10 to 12 anti-Jewish incidents per day in the past 30 days throughout the country.

The number one best selling book in France is "September 11: The Frightening Fraud," which posits no plane ever crashed into the Pentagon. A similar book in Germany sold over one million copies. One prominent Belgian businessman conceded privately "no one knows what to believe anymore." Neither multiculturalism nor integration of Muslim communities seems to be working anywhere in Europe. Moderate Muslim voices cannot rise above radical hubbub.

The French far left has also gone fishing in these troubled Islamic waters. One new leftist political star is Dieudonne M'Bala M'Bala, a hugely popular black comedian who appears to be a Gallic Louis Farrakhan. He dismisses civic educational programs about the Holocaust as "memory pornography." He was recently fined 5,000 Euros for comparing Jews to slave-traders. In a television sketch, he gave a Nazi salute while dressed as an orthodox Jew to denounce what he saw as "fascist Israeli policies."

The 40-year-old Dieudonne (he doesn't use his last name) was born in Paris to a French mother and Cameroonian father, and owns and runs a Paris theater that showcases young comedians. Sixty years ago, another French comedian decided to run for the Presidency.

"Maisons Closes" had just been banned and Ferdinand Lop campaigned on reopening a brothel every five kilometers between Paris and Deauville. He got a handful of votes. Dieudonne's humor is black -- and dangerous.
 

Mike

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Red Robin said:
I guess that answers the question of what our country would be like if the liberals were in charge.

Would these Muslims be............................"RAGHEADS"? :lol:
 

Cal

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Mike said:
Red Robin said:
I guess that answers the question of what our country would be like if the liberals were in charge.

Would these Muslims be............................"RAGHEADS"? :lol:
If one stood on his head, would he be "on the rag"?
 

nonothing

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Cal said:
Mike said:
Red Robin said:
I guess that answers the question of what our country would be like if the liberals were in charge.

Well Cal,mike and RR,you fellas seem to blame everything on liberals or other countries.....Is there any single negative incident that you can recall,that you may place blame on the republican leadership for,in the last 8 years?..
 

Mike

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nonothing said:
Cal said:
Mike said:
Well Cal,mike and RR,you fellas seem to blame everything on liberals or other countries.....Is there any single negative incident that you can recall,that you may place blame on the republican leadership for,in the last 8 years?..

Yep.

George Bush caused the hurricanes last year. I guess he learned his lesson and called them off this year. :shock:
 

memanpa

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Well Cal,mike and RR,you fellas seem to blame everything on liberals or other countries.....Is there any single negative incident that you can recall,that you may place blame on the republican leadership for,in the last 8 years?..[/quote]

do not forget that bush and the GOP are responsable for global warming, 911, the ban on canadian beef, the war on terror,.

but the liberals especially those in CANADA, take credit for everything good :)

nono this post pretty well sums up the question of what you stand for!
nothing
 

nonothing

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memanpa said:
Well Cal,mike and RR,you fellas seem to blame everything on liberals or other countries.....Is there any single negative incident that you can recall,that you may place blame on the republican leadership for,in the last 8 years?..

do not forget that bush and the GOP are responsable for global warming, 911, the ban on canadian beef, the war on terror,.

but the liberals especially those in CANADA, take credit for everything good :)

nono this post pretty well sums up the question of what you stand for!
nothing[/quote]

When you have something intelligent to say memanpa,then maybe I will listen...but you never do....Its always the same old dribble coming from you....If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal..but a smart memanpa like you would know this...To me you are just scared to go it alone......you like to do all the light work after you see who on here has picked what side....Far be it from you to balls up on any topic....you chase after people whining."show me where i said this"..You are just a grown up baby that can't stand on his own....You can say all you want of me but I think so low of you,I wont ever respond to your gutless crap again....Enjoy that fact,many would love for me to be done with them.......Your the saddest kind of man there is out there....To scared to stand up on your own,for anything.....
 

nonothing

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Mike said:
nonothing said:
Cal said:
Yep.

George Bush caused the hurricanes last year. I guess he learned his lesson and called them off this year. :shock:

Mike do you lack intelligence too...Or do you believe that people can really start hurricanes?
You repub's sure are a touchy bunch when asked about your own party...Its like your afraid to say something negative about your goverment....You cant even admit mistakes that happen ......Rose colored glasses I guess.
 

Cal

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When you have something intelligent to say memanpa,then maybe I will listen...but you never do....Its always the same old dribble coming from you....If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal..but a smart memanpa like you would know this...To me you are just scared to go it alone......you like to do all the light work after you see who on here has picked what side....Far be it from you to balls up on any topic....you chase after people whining."show me where i said this"..You are just a grown up baby that can't stand on his own....You can say all you want of me but I think so low of you,I wont ever respond to your gutless crap again....Enjoy that fact,many would love for me to be done with them.......Your the saddest kind of man there is out there....To scared to stand up on your own,for anything.....
Poor little nonothing, who once wrote a sappy post telling us he was leaving because of the bullies, obviously took a break from gay porn to insult someone who honorably served our country and still has embedded shrapnel. nono, for shame, you sad little leftist.
 

memanpa

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i for one am glad nono is not going to respond to my posts any longer, to me it just shows where his head is, am not going to mention what color his eyes are :D

no no have a nice life (in your little dark brown world) :D :eek:
 

jigs

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Cal said:
When you have something intelligent to say memanpa,then maybe I will listen...but you never do....Its always the same old dribble coming from you....If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal..but a smart memanpa like you would know this...To me you are just scared to go it alone......you like to do all the light work after you see who on here has picked what side....Far be it from you to balls up on any topic....you chase after people whining."show me where i said this"..You are just a grown up baby that can't stand on his own....You can say all you want of me but I think so low of you,I wont ever respond to your gutless crap again....Enjoy that fact,many would love for me to be done with them.......Your the saddest kind of man there is out there....To scared to stand up on your own,for anything.....
Poor little nonothing, who once wrote a sappy post telling us he was leaving because of the bullies, obviously took a break from gay porn to insult someone who honorably served our country and still has embedded shrapnel. nono, for shame, you sad little leftist.

ha ha.....gay porn!

that has become the ultimate webboard put down.... it is everywhere. and most don't know what to say in reply. kind of like hearing the f word in church.....just dead silence
 

RoperAB

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nonothing said:
If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal...

British Columbia,<lower mainland> has always in my lifetime been an extreme leftest state. Liberals out there seem to be the worst kind of Liberals that give Liberals a bad name everywhere else.
What I hate the most is how they sucker so many into believeing that they are for the small guy when the opposite is true. They represent orginized crime, big corporations and do everything they can to enslave the little guy and make him dependent on government. They are eletist who think they are above the laws that they make for everybody else. They are the biggest liers and crooks around.
Look at your past leftest leaders in BC. Charged for drunk driving, tied into orginized crime, outright cooking the books and lieing about the provinces finaces, kickbacks and corruption at the highest levels. Gosh almighty they are almost as bad as the federal liberals! In my wildest dreams I dont kbnow how anybody could vote liberal or NDP!
 

nonothing

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Cal said:
When you have something intelligent to say memanpa,then maybe I will listen...but you never do....Its always the same old dribble coming from you....If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal..but a smart memanpa like you would know this...To me you are just scared to go it alone......you like to do all the light work after you see who on here has picked what side....Far be it from you to balls up on any topic....you chase after people whining."show me where i said this"..You are just a grown up baby that can't stand on his own....You can say all you want of me but I think so low of you,I wont ever respond to your gutless crap again....Enjoy that fact,many would love for me to be done with them.......Your the saddest kind of man there is out there....To scared to stand up on your own,for anything.....
Poor little nonothing, who once wrote a sappy post telling us he was leaving because of the bullies, obviously took a break from gay porn to insult someone who honorably served our country and still has embedded shrapnel. nono, for shame, you sad little leftist.


Is girl on girl considered gay porn?.
 

RoperAB

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nonothing said:
Cal said:
When you have something intelligent to say memanpa,then maybe I will listen...but you never do....Its always the same old dribble coming from you....If you understood CANADA,you would not even make a remark like that...I live in a liberal run province and I will tell you, their mandate is more conservative then liberal..but a smart memanpa like you would know this...To me you are just scared to go it alone......you like to do all the light work after you see who on here has picked what side....Far be it from you to balls up on any topic....you chase after people whining."show me where i said this"..You are just a grown up baby that can't stand on his own....You can say all you want of me but I think so low of you,I wont ever respond to your gutless crap again....Enjoy that fact,many would love for me to be done with them.......Your the saddest kind of man there is out there....To scared to stand up on your own,for anything.....
Poor little nonothing, who once wrote a sappy post telling us he was leaving because of the bullies, obviously took a break from gay porn to insult someone who honorably served our country and still has embedded shrapnel. nono, for shame, you sad little leftist.


Is girl on girl considered gay porn?.

As long as they are not butch looking dykes , girl on girl is okay with me <wink>
 

Mrs.Greg

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RoperAB said:
nonothing said:
Cal said:
Poor little nonothing, who once wrote a sappy post telling us he was leaving because of the bullies, obviously took a break from gay porn to insult someone who honorably served our country and still has embedded shrapnel. nono, for shame, you sad little leftist.


Is girl on girl considered gay porn?.

As long as they are not butch looking dykes , girl on girl is okay with me <wink>
:roll: ................ :lol:
 

Cal

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I geuss with all of the Liberal males that must be up there, it's pretty understandable why the chicks would rather make it with each other.
 

nonothing

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Cal said:
I geuss with all of the Liberal males that must be up there, it's pretty understandable why the chicks would rather make it with each other.

and to think they dont even try the conservatives,just skip right past them to eachother,without even a thought ...
 
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