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The Problem: Obama Voters..... Not Obama Himself

Mike

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“The danger to America is not Barack Obama but a citizenry capable of entrusting a man like him with the Presidency. It will be far easier to limit and undo the follies of an Obama presidency than to restore the necessary common sense and good judgment to a depraved electorate willing to have such a man for their president.

The problem is much deeper and far more serious than Mr. Obama, who is a mere symptom of what ails America. Blaming the prince of the fools should not blind anyone to the vast confederacy of fools that made him their prince. The Republic can survive a Barack Obama, who is, after all, merely a fool. It is less likely to survive a multitude of fools such as those who made him their president.”
 

Zilly

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That opinion is correct, it is the voters who elected Obama, but it was the system who presented those voters with only two "viable" choices... Obama and Romney. And in my opinion, the system is what's broke, not the voters.

Competition is a catalyst for creativity, yet we still have Republicans and Democrats that campaign on the same talking points year after year. It's not working anymore! It's going to take creativity and hard choices to get us out of this mess.

To make a third party viable will require a bottom up movement. Until then, both the Republicans and Democrats need to realize the American people want new and fresh ideas, not the same old same old that got us into this mess to begin with. I truly believe that Obama won on the likability factor, as neither candidate brought anything to the table that a majority of the public thought would work.
 

Steve

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To make a third party viable will require a bottom up movement.

I would like a third party system.. but realize it may not be possible..

so instead I support the tea party model that puts up a candidate to oppose the party selected candidate or incumbent..

their ideas might not be new or fresh.. but at least it is a move towards new and fresh candidates.. and a move against the strict two party rule..

if it catches hold,. we may end up with more choices.
 

Frisco

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Steve said:
To make a third party viable will require a bottom up movement.

so instead I support the tea party model that puts up a candidate to oppose the party selected candidate or incumbent..

their ideas might not be new or fresh.. but at least it is a move towards new and fresh candidates.. and a move against the strict two party rule..

if it catches hold,. we may end up with more choices.

Steve, (I apologize for my laziness and not researching this myself) does the tea party support Congressional term limits?

I believe that limiting House Representatives and Senators to 2 terms would be one giant step toward eliminating the current system.
 

Larrry

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The media can take the blame for most of this when they don't give a complete presentation of the news and replace it with opinion disguised as news. Then the ignorant voter who is complacent with what he is dished out.
 

Steve

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Frisco said:
Steve said:
To make a third party viable will require a bottom up movement.

so instead I support the tea party model that puts up a candidate to oppose the party selected candidate or incumbent..

their ideas might not be new or fresh.. but at least it is a move towards new and fresh candidates.. and a move against the strict two party rule..

if it catches hold,. we may end up with more choices.

Steve, (I apologize for my laziness and not researching this myself) does the tea party support Congressional term limits?

I believe that limiting House Representatives and Senators to 2 terms would be one giant step toward eliminating the current system.

I am for term limits,.. and by the research I have done approximately 70 to 80% of all Americans support term limits ,. and it appears to be one of the ideas strongly supported by many of the tea party grassroots members..

The problem is in getting any meaningful Constitutional amendment through would in most cases have to be supported by the representatives themselves..

Many in the Tea party grassroots level realize that until the career politician mindset is gone it won't happen.. so we advocate voting them all out.. with out taking a self defeating attitude.. (fight in the primary, unite in the general elections)
 

Frisco

Well-known member
Steve said:
Frisco said:
Steve said:
so instead I support the tea party model that puts up a candidate to oppose the party selected candidate or incumbent..

their ideas might not be new or fresh.. but at least it is a move towards new and fresh candidates.. and a move against the strict two party rule..

if it catches hold,. we may end up with more choices.

Steve, (I apologize for my laziness and not researching this myself) does the tea party support Congressional term limits?

I believe that limiting House Representatives and Senators to 2 terms would be one giant step toward eliminating the current system.

I am for term limits,.. and by the research I have done approximately 70 to 80% of all Americans support term limits ,. and it appears to be one of the ideas strongly supported by many of the tea party grassroots members..

The problem is in getting any meaningful Constitutional amendment through would in most cases have to be supported by the representatives themselves..

Many in the Tea party grassroots level realize that until the career politician mindset is gone it won't happen.. so we advocate voting them all out.. with out taking a self defeating attitude.. (fight in the primary, unite in the general elections)

Thank you, I'm in the fledgling process of learning and getting involved with SD TEA party.
 

lonewolvie

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I agree and that is what I have been saying. The American media is broken, corrupt, and dishonest. Most of these voters were deliberately kept in the dark about Obama's mistakes. This election cycle it was like the "news" media didn't exist. There was no way Obama should have been re-elected if the media had done it's job and that is not political bias either. America's corporate run "news" media behaves like a state run media.
 

smalltime

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Do you know which state runs the media?Do you know the agenda of the state that runs the media?When you figure it out you will be alot more knowledgable about the affairs of state.
 

Steve

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Do you know which state runs the media?

well.. while it is ran/owned by Microsoft, GE and Comcas MSNBC sounds like a 24 hour commercial for the liberal agenda.. with breaks for ducommercials showing prison life..

ironically the end result of most liberal policies..

but looking deeper ... one finds..


Brian L. Roberts was named to President Barack Obama's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness in February, 2011.

wasn't Jeffrey Immelt. on the same council..?

The council, which advises on jobs and economic issues, is chaired by General Electric chairman and CEO Jeffrey Immelt.

Also on the council are former Time Warner chairman and CEO Richard Parsons, (who is now chairman of Citigroup), and AOL co-founder Steve Case.

President Barack Obama on Wednesday named Comcast CEO and chairman Brian Roberts, Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg and former Time Warner and AOL top executives to the President's Council on Jobs and Competitiveness.

well if that isn't one tangled web of Media giants?
 
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