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Tam

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Now I found the poll that said 81% favored Obama, It was taken from what I can see before he was sworn in As they refer to Him as President Elect Obama. But what Oldtimer didn't read in the Chinese based article he posted was this part.

The honeymoon level of support for Obama in Canada "doesn't mean carte blanche on the policy front, though," Graves added.

The EKOS survey suggests:

A high level of worry among Canadians over the future of the North American Free Trade Agreement, which Obama has mused about renegotiating in order to protect jobs in the U.S. About 62 per cent of those polled felt concerned or moderately concerned about Canada suffering from such a move.
A reluctance to support Canadian troops staying in Afghanistan past 2011 if Obama requested Canada's help past that date, with 55 per cent of respondents opposing such an extension, compared to 30 per cent supporting it.
A sense that Americans will be hurt in the future by Obama's intention to continue running deep deficits in order to fund hefty stimulus packages. About 71 per cent of those polled felt the cost would be a serious problem for Americans, with another 15 per cent saying it would be somewhat serious and nine per cent considering it not very serious.

So if the poll had been taken today after President Obama's pork filled Stimulus package has been passed and signed without so much as being READ. I have to wonder if 81% of Canadians would still feel the same way about Obama. :?
Here is some Canadians discussing PRESIDENT Obama
Just so you know this website is Canadian Based and was awarded 2008's Best Conservative Blog Award. even over the US Conservative blog sites.

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/010796.html#comments

http://www.smalldeadanimals.com/archives/010792.html#comments

Just because our liberal bias media is having a slobbering love affair with Obama like they are in the US. doesn't mean everyone in Canada is Oldtimer :wink:
 
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Anonymous

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What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....

Gee OT maybe you should come to,Canada and buy some bred cows. :)
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....

And the other side of this story is that when the economy in the US tanks so does Canada's. When I see the Dow dropping over 1000 points since Obama was sworn in, and Economist including the CBO saying this huge stimulus package is not going to work. I'm sorry but that does not give me confidence in the Liar you voted for. From what I see the koolaid is starting to wear off as Obama's aproval rating is dropping as it should after his first months preformance. All I hear on the news is how he has done more in his first month in office than any other President. But maybe if he had slowed down your grandkids wouldn't be on the hook for his first month. :wink:
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....

What I find interesting is that no matter the subject you have managed to find someone to talk to about it that supports your far fetched ideals,
I was under the impression you were a working ranch not one that allowed you to spend all your time in front of a computer and multiple tvs and still have time to visit the local watering hole plus find people to agree with your ideals.

So what is it oldtimer are you really a full tiime rancher oR a full time NET,TV,BAR ROOM JUNKIE , ?????|Who spends all his time trying to convince the world he is a know it all!
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....

And the other side of this story is that when the economy in the US tanks so does Canada's. When I see the Dow dropping over 1000 points since Obama was sworn in, and Economist including the CBO saying this huge stimulus package is not going to work. I'm sorry but that does not give me confidence in the Liar you voted for. From what I see the koolaid is starting to wear off as Obama's aproval rating is dropping as it should after his first months preformance. All I hear on the news is how he has done more in his first month in office than any other President. But maybe if he had slowed down your grandkids wouldn't be on the hook for his first month. :wink:

You seem to forget the 6000 point DOW tumble that occurred last year under the leadership/misleadership of your "Annointed One"...Obama didn't make this mess- he inherited the Bush Bust-- and its not going to turn around immediately.....
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
What I thought was really interesting in my chat with some of the Canadian neighbors yesterday- they were not only much more optomistic about Obama, but also much more hopeful for his success- than Tam and the other rightwingernuts on here that keep hoping for his failure.. :roll:

Like some of them said- when the US economy is good- it trickles over into their economy... Especially after they saw bred cows selling here for $1200- that they said you could get in Canada for $750CDN or about $600 US-- half the price....

And the other side of this story is that when the economy in the US tanks so does Canada's. When I see the Dow dropping over 1000 points since Obama was sworn in, and Economist including the CBO saying this huge stimulus package is not going to work. I'm sorry but that does not give me confidence in the Liar you voted for. From what I see the koolaid is starting to wear off as Obama's aproval rating is dropping as it should after his first months preformance. All I hear on the news is how he has done more in his first month in office than any other President. But maybe if he had slowed down your grandkids wouldn't be on the hook for his first month. :wink:

You seem to forget the 6000 point DOW tumble that occurred last year under the leadership/misleadership of your "Annointed One"...Obama didn't make this mess- he inherited the Bush Bust-- and its not going to turn around immediately.....

OK you took two post to turn this into a Bush bashing thread. :roll: Lets get back to Obama's record and the fact that he was sworn into office a month ago on the premise of hope and change but the markets have shown their confidence in him by tanking 1000 points. Not to mention his job approval rating has dropped by 5% and disapproval rate has rose by 13%in the US. The stimulus package he signed without reading and that more and more are saying will not help only had a 37% approval rating. Why should anyone let alone Canadians be supporting this guy when in Canada about 71 per cent of those polled felt the cost would be a serious problem for Americans, with another 15 per cent saying it would be somewhat serious. Everyone in Canada knows if the US is in trouble we are too. And that is why The honeymoon level of support for Obama in Canada "doesn't mean carte blanche on the policy front,". You might still be on a extended honeymoon but people that didn't drink the koolaid like it was free beer at the watering hole are smarting up. :roll:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
And the other side of this story is that when the economy in the US tanks so does Canada's. When I see the Dow dropping over 1000 points since Obama was sworn in, and Economist including the CBO saying this huge stimulus package is not going to work. I'm sorry but that does not give me confidence in the Liar you voted for. From what I see the koolaid is starting to wear off as Obama's aproval rating is dropping as it should after his first months preformance. All I hear on the news is how he has done more in his first month in office than any other President. But maybe if he had slowed down your grandkids wouldn't be on the hook for his first month. :wink:

You seem to forget the 6000 point DOW tumble that occurred last year under the leadership/misleadership of your "Annointed One"...Obama didn't make this mess- he inherited the Bush Bust-- and its not going to turn around immediately.....

OK you took two post to turn this into a Bush bashing thread. :roll: Lets get back to Obama's record and the fact that he was sworn into office a month ago on the premise of hope and change but the markets have shown their confidence in him by tanking 1000 points. Not to mention his job approval rating has dropped by 5% and disapproval rate has rose by 13%in the US. The stimulus package he signed without reading and that more and more are saying will not help only had a 37% approval rating. Why should anyone let allow Canadians be supporting this guy when in Canada alone about 71 per cent of those polled felt the cost would be a serious problem for Americans, with another 15 per cent saying it would be somewhat serious. Everyone in Canada knows if the US is in trouble we are too. And that is why The honeymoon level of support for Obama in Canada "doesn't mean carte blanche on the policy front,". You might still be on a extended honeymoon but people that didn't drink the koolaid like it was free beer at the watering hole are smarting up. :roll:

The guys been in office 1 month-and you expect it all to be fixed overnite... :???: Bush spent 8 years reaking the havoc that led to this mess..... :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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Then if you are bound and determined to live in the past, take a look at where it was in 2000.

OT, Here's one of your fellow libertarian's, with a sensible explanation of what happened.

Ron Paul part 1 and part 2

http://www.campaignforliberty.com/

scroll down almost to the end of the page
 
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Creek Side Farms said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
OK you took two post to turn this into a Bush bashing thread. :roll: Lets get back to Obama's record and the fact that he was sworn into office a month ago on the premise of hope and change but the markets have shown their confidence in him by tanking 1000 points. Not to mention his job approval rating has dropped by 5% and disapproval rate has rose by 13%in the US. The stimulus package he signed without reading and that more and more are saying will not help only had a 37% approval rating. Why should anyone let allow Canadians be supporting this guy when in Canada alone about 71 per cent of those polled felt the cost would be a serious problem for Americans, with another 15 per cent saying it would be somewhat serious. Everyone in Canada knows if the US is in trouble we are too. And that is why The honeymoon level of support for Obama in Canada "doesn't mean carte blanche on the policy front,". You might still be on a extended honeymoon but people that didn't drink the koolaid like it was free beer at the watering hole are smarting up. :roll:

The guys been in office 1 month-and you expect it all to be fixed overnite... :???: Bush spent 8 years reaking the havoc that led to this mess..... :roll:

Look at the dow and when it started to fall. Do your home work. If you don't know how ask your wife :wink:


On July 19, 2007, the average passed the 14,000 level, completing the fastest 1,000-point advance for the index since 1999. One week later, a 450 point intraday loss, owing to turbulence in the U.S. sub-prime mortgage market and the soaring value of the Yuan, initiated another correction falling below the 13,000 mark, about 10% from the highs.

On October 9, 2007, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at the record level of 14,164.53. Roughly on-par with the 2000 record when adjusted for inflation, this represented the final high of the cyclical bull.
On July 2, 2008, with record-high oil and gasoline prices well above $140 per barrel and $4 per gallon, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed in bear market territory. Two weeks later, its subsequent close below the 11,000 mark for the first time since 2006 was followed by a 500-point rally that accompanied a three-day 15% correction in energy prices.

On September 15, 2008, a wider financial crisis became evident when Lehman Brothers filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The DJIA lost more than 500 points for only the sixth time in history, returning to its mid-July lows below the 11,000 level. A series of bailout packages, including the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, proposed and implemented by the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury, as well as FDIC-sponsored bank mergers, did not prevent further losses. After two months of extreme volatility, during which the Dow experienced its largest one day point loss, largest intraday range (more than 1,000 points) and largest daily point gain, the index closed at a new six-year low of 7,552.29 on November 20. A five-session rally brought the Dow up over 1,200 points between November 21 and 28, the week of Thanksgiving. The Monday following, the markets tumbled, with the Dow losing 679.95 points (-7.70%), with all thirty components down.

On February 20, 2009 the dow drop 100.28 points (-1.34%) to 7,365.67 the lowest since 2002.
 
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Creek Side Farms said:
Oldtimer said:
Creek Side Farms said:
Look at the dow and when it started to fall. Do your home work. If you don't know how ask your wife :wink:


On July 19, 2007, the average passed the 14,000 level, completing the fastest 1,000-point advance for the index since 1999. One week later, a 450 point intraday loss, owing to turbulence in the U.S. sub-prime mortgage market and the soaring value of the Yuan, initiated another correction falling below the 13,000 mark, about 10% from the highs.

On October 9, 2007, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed at the record level of 14,164.53. Roughly on-par with the 2000 record when adjusted for inflation, this represented the final high of the cyclical bull.
On July 2, 2008, with record-high oil and gasoline prices well above $140 per barrel and $4 per gallon, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed in bear market territory. Two weeks later, its subsequent close below the 11,000 mark for the first time since 2006 was followed by a 500-point rally that accompanied a three-day 15% correction in energy prices.

On September 15, 2008, a wider financial crisis became evident when Lehman Brothers filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The DJIA lost more than 500 points for only the sixth time in history, returning to its mid-July lows below the 11,000 level. A series of bailout packages, including the Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008, proposed and implemented by the Federal Reserve and U.S. Treasury, as well as FDIC-sponsored bank mergers, did not prevent further losses. After two months of extreme volatility, during which the Dow experienced its largest one day point loss, largest intraday range (more than 1,000 points) and largest daily point gain, the index closed at a new six-year low of 7,552.29 on November 20. A five-session rally brought the Dow up over 1,200 points between November 21 and 28, the week of Thanksgiving. The Monday following, the markets tumbled, with the Dow losing 679.95 points (-7.70%), with all thirty components down.

On February 20, 2009 the dow drop 100.28 points (-1.34%) to 7,365.67 the lowest since 2002.
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You might want to open your eyes in an unbiased way. The market tumbles were all associated with things pertaining to your witch doctor president :wink:

:???: :???: :???: :???: SAY WHAT....So now you rightwingnuts are trying to stick the Oil price manipulation and prices on Obama- along with all Wall Streets failure.... :???: Apparently they don't teach the domino theory in rightwingnut schools...

I can see who needs to open their eyes....If you go back and look at my posts on the Economic polls from a couples years ago- I was suggesting to folks to get their money out of the market if they hadn't-- and I predicted the DOW would drop below 8000.....And everyone pooh-poohed it away as Bush Bashing....

But sadly I was right and I get to say "I TOLD YOU SO" :wink: :lol: :lol: :p

On July 19, 2007, the average passed the 14,000 level, completing the fastest 1,000-point advance for the index since 1999. One week later, a 450 point intraday loss, owing to turbulence in the U.S. sub-prime mortgage market and the soaring value of the Yuan, initiated another correction falling below the 13,000 mark, about 10% from the highs.

On July 2, 2008, with record-high oil and gasoline prices well above $140 per barrel and $4 per gallon, the Dow Jones Industrial Average closed in bear market territory. Two weeks later, its subsequent close below the 11,000 mark for the first time since 2006
On September 15, 2008, a wider financial crisis became evident when Lehman Brothers filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy. The DJIA lost more than 500 points for only the sixth time in history, returning to its mid-July lows below the 11,000 level.

After two months of extreme volatility, during which the Dow experienced its largest one day point loss, largest intraday range (more than 1,000 points) and largest daily point gain, the index closed at a new six-year low of 7,552.29 on November 20.
 

aplusmnt

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Oldtimer said:
The guys been in office 1 month-and you expect it all to be fixed overnite... :???: Bush spent 8 years reaking the havoc that led to this mess..... :roll:

Bush inherieted a recession then had 911, then two wars then Katrina and a vicous media frenzy against him. Surely the Messiah can handle a simple little Recession with out making it worse! :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer most if not all of the problems now hitting the US were cause by the melt down of the Banking and housing markets so maybe you should watch this video and tell us who was at fault since the New York Time said Clinton encouraged Fanny and Freddy to enter into the Sub Prime mortgages back in 1999.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMnSp4qEXNM

Sucks when the media has the truth about who was trying to stop it and who caused it doesn't it Oldtimer :wink:

Now would you like to discuss Obama's drop in polls and the lack of confidence that has caused that drop. :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

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how many thousand points did the dow drop in the last seven months of bush's administration?

Might be more accurate to look at specific dates, that certain decisions are made etc.

Here's a chart for the time period you are talking about Don. Obviously more dependent on the election campaign, and not the lame duck!

ObamaMarket.gif
 

TexasBred

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I can see who needs to open their eyes....If you go back and look at my posts on the Economic polls from a couples years ago- I was suggesting to folks to get their money out of the market if they hadn't-- and I predicted the DOW would drop below 8000.....And everyone pooh-poohed it away as Bush Bashing....

But sadly I was right and I get to say "I TOLD YOU SO"


Yet only a couple months ago you told me your "plan administrator" still had your money iinvested in the market. roflmao
 

hopalong

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TexasBred said:
I can see who needs to open their eyes....If you go back and look at my posts on the Economic polls from a couples years ago- I was suggesting to folks to get their money out of the market if they hadn't-- and I predicted the DOW would drop below 8000.....And everyone pooh-poohed it away as Bush Bashing....

But sadly I was right and I get to say "I TOLD YOU SO"


Yet only a couple months ago you told me your "plan administrator" still had your money iinvested in the market. roflmao


SAY WHAT!!!!!!
oldtimer not telling the truth again! NAH that is just mind boggling (for the liberals) lol lol
 

TexasBred

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Can't say he lied but apparently he forgot to tell his plan administrator about his predictions and if he did the admin. didn't listen. A shame OT didn't go public with this. Apparently market expertise like his is in short supply and would have been in big demand.
 

hopalong

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TexasBred said:
Can't say he lied but apparently he forgot to tell his plan administrator about his predictions and if he did the admin. didn't listen. A shame OT didn't go public with this. Apparently market expertise like his is in short supply and would have been in big demand.

Yea MISS CLEO aka oldtimet must be a multi billionare my now with all his I TOLD YOU SO'S :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 
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