MRJ said:
Tam, we do want valid source verification, though we realize that carries with it responsibility and probably will require stringent documentation as to EVERYTHING one does to manage their cattle.
That requirement and the time and costs of the paperwork to record the information seem daunting. I feel that the people willing to do that must be paid commensurate with our efforts.
I realize that when everyone is required to do the same thing, there may be difficulty in recovering our expenses for such records, and hopefully, there will be rewards for the changing the quality and style of our cattle keeping such records will enable us to achieve. Some producers will be enabled to fill various better paying niche markets with differing types of cattle by using the information such records provide to them. Others will stay in the 'commodity cattle' markets. And bellyache and blame others over that fact!!!!
MRJ
MRJ, We are ALL required to do it in Canada at producer expence, it's Manditory!!
So because the Canadian socialist government stuck it to all Canadian producers, and raped them without a kiss- you want the US to be force with M-ID too...Tam what a childish argument.....
We are also required to brand our cattle with a CAN if we want to export them. So why shouldn't you have to, to export your cattle and beef?
Your the ones screaming to ship down to here, not visa versa- I see no one forcing you to ship the the States---its our rules for coming in--- if you have problems with US cattle and US beef going into Canada - put a rule into effect to fit it (since you have experience with those trade barrier rules like Anaplas/Blutongue)....
Do you think it is fair that Canadian producers have to do the costly time consuming record keeping for our industry and then have to compete for markets against you that use the excuse you don't want to do it as you may not be compensated for your time and effort.
You didn't seem to mind for 10+ years sticking the US producer with a costly and time consuming trade barrier- the Anaplas/Bluetongue rule- that now that you are kissing hinny to get the border open you are so conveniently finding is "not needed"..
As far as I know both our countries have herd disease problems and that source vertification system is there or at least should be there to protect everyone involved in the indusrty including the consumers both domestic and foreign. Volunitary will not work and if you think it will look at the US brand system.
Mandatory COOL is needed now to protect the consumer and consumer confidence because of the bimonthly new Canadian mad cow- but you are fighting that..Are you another one of those against all mandatories- sometimes- unless they fit your agenda :wink: :lol:
Alabama doesn't require it and guess what you couldn't find the birthplace of your BSE infect cow from that state. Volunitary ID will be no different if it is not Manditory you will have producers not doing it and if you have a BSE positive in one of those producers herds you again WILL NOT FIND THE BIRTH HERD. How many more US investigations do you think can end with no results before consumers will stop eating US beef all together for fear of what will happen if they eat it?? It is time to stop sitting on the fence and get moving on a manditory ID system that the industry can work with before that day comes and the world consumers of beef swear off US beef because you can't kind where you herd health problems originate. If you need some kind of compensation think of being able to sell your beef as compensation because there may come a day that you won't if you can't ID where your problems originate.
Tam- maybe if your industry leaders hadn't had the government shove the Canadian ID program down your throats - you would be getting paid premiums if you tagged and verified --Now the packers don't have to pay you anything extra- they just wait til your government mandate says you have to do it- they get what they want- you get the shaft - Did you thank your industry leaders :wink:
And now like a spoiled little kid- since you got spanked you think big brother in the US should get spanked too... :???:
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