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Tam

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Harry Reid rejects President Obama’s trade push
By ERIC BRADNER and MANU RAJU | 1/29/14 2:10 PM EST Updated: 1/29/14 5:53 PM EST

President Barack Obama’s push for the two largest free trade deals in U.S. history has hit a major roadblock: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The Nevada Democrat said he opposes a bill that would fast-track the Pacific Rim and European Union pacts through Congress with limited debate and no amendments – which the White House says is crucial to gaining concessions from other countries to finalize those deals.

Reid made it abundantly clear that he has voiced his concerns to Obama’s administration, as well as the outgoing chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus (D-Mont.), and his replacement, Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), who would take the lead on the issue once Baucus departs to become U.S. ambassador to China.

“Everyone knows how I feel about this,” Reid said just off the Senate floor. “Sen. Baucus knows. Sen. Wyden knows. The White House knows. Everyone would be well-advised to not push this right now.”

Will the Republicans get the blame for standing in Obama's way on this one and will Obama use his pen to successfully go around HIS DEMOCRAT ROADBLOCK SENATOR REID. The same roadblock that has stopped any of the Republican Controlled House's bill that would create US jobs from getting to the Senate floor for a honest vote?
 
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Reid rejects Obama’s trade power




By Alexander Bolton and Vicki Needham - 01/29/14 01:54 PM EST


Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid (D-Nev.) on Wednesday suggested he will not bring legislation to the floor that would grant President Obama greater trade powers.

Reid said he is “against” trade promotion authority (TPA) legislation — often called “fast track”
— that, if passed, would make it easier for Obama to negotiate trade deals by preventing Congress from amending them.


“I’m against fast track,” said Reid, who told reporters he would not guarantee floor time for legislation by Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D-Mont.), who is set to leave the Senate upon his confirmation as ambassador to China.
“We’ll see,” Reid said of the bill. “Everyone would be well advised just to not push this right now.”

Reid had recently called the legislation “controversial,” and cast several votes against trade deals during former President George W. Bush’s administration.


Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/196853-reid-rejects-obamas-plea-for-trade-power#ixzz2rqBCSW82
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I don't often agree with old Harry- but sure do on this subject... Too bad some Majority Leaders/Congressmen didn't stand up against "Fast Track" authority before we ended up with NAFTA, AFTA, CAFTA, etc., etc. that all helped drive US manufacturing/business overseas....

Article II, Section 2, Clause 2 of the United States Constitution, includes the Treaty Clause, which empowers the President of the United States to propose and chiefly negotiate agreements between the United States and other countries, which become treaties between the United States and other countries after the advice and consent of a supermajority of the United States Senate.

Personally I believe the giving of Fast Track authority is unconstitutional as I see these agreements as an International Treaty which the Constitution says takes a 2/3 majority vote of the Senate to ratify...
 

ranch hand

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Personally I believe the giving of Fast Track authority is unconstitutional as I see these agreements as an International Treaty which the Constitution says takes a 2/3 majority vote of the Senate to ratify...

The Origination Clause, sometimes called the Revenue Clause, is part of the United States Constitution. This clause says that all bills for raising revenue must start in the House of Representatives, but the Senate can amend them as in the case of other bills.

The Origination Clause stemmed from an English parliamentary practice that all money bills must have their first reading (and any other initial readings) in the House of Commons before being sent to the House of Lords. This practice was intended to ensure that the power of the purse is possessed by the legislative body most responsive to the people, although the English practice was modified in America by allowing the Senate to amend these bills.

So how did Obamacare get through legal OT?
 

littlejoe

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Tam said:
Harry Reid rejects President Obama’s trade push
By ERIC BRADNER and MANU RAJU | 1/29/14 2:10 PM EST Updated: 1/29/14 5:53 PM EST

President Barack Obama’s push for the two largest free trade deals in U.S. history has hit a major roadblock: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The Nevada Democrat said he opposes a bill that would fast-track the Pacific Rim and European Union pacts through Congress with limited debate and no amendments – which the White House says is crucial to gaining concessions from other countries to finalize those deals.

Reid made it abundantly clear that he has voiced his concerns to Obama’s administration, as well as the outgoing chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus (D-Mont.), and his replacement, Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), who would take the lead on the issue once Baucus departs to become U.S. ambassador to China.

“Everyone knows how I feel about this,” Reid said just off the Senate floor. “Sen. Baucus knows. Sen. Wyden knows. The White House knows. Everyone would be well-advised to not push this right now.”

Will the Republicans get the blame for standing in Obama's way on this one and will Obama use his pen to successfully go around HIS DEMOCRAT ROADBLOCK SENATOR REID. The same roadblock that has stopped any of the Republican Controlled House's bill that would create US jobs from getting to the Senate floor for a honest vote?

Not at all!! Republicans have always been in vanguard===leading the charge, as it were----(ever hear of mitt Romney?) in exporting jobs overseas!!! Good to see demo's stymying dopey.
 
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ranch hand said:
Personally I believe the giving of Fast Track authority is unconstitutional as I see these agreements as an International Treaty which the Constitution says takes a 2/3 majority vote of the Senate to ratify...

The Origination Clause, sometimes called the Revenue Clause, is part of the United States Constitution. This clause says that all bills for raising revenue must start in the House of Representatives, but the Senate can amend them as in the case of other bills.

The Origination Clause stemmed from an English parliamentary practice that all money bills must have their first reading (and any other initial readings) in the House of Commons before being sent to the House of Lords. This practice was intended to ensure that the power of the purse is possessed by the legislative body most responsive to the people, although the English practice was modified in America by allowing the Senate to amend these bills.

So how did Obamacare get through legal OT?

The conservative SCOTUS said it did...
I, just like Nixon who originally proposed the mandate plan for health care insurance, along with conservative Heritage Foundation and all the Republicans for 40 years that supported the mandate plan- saw the monetary amount as a penalty/fine for violating a law- and not a tax... So therefore not needing to originate in the House- or even be approved as a law by Congress for that matter if set into a rulemaking option Congress gave to all the Departments/Agencies so they wouldn't have to make those decisions... As Congress does not like to work- and prefers those 3 day work weeks and several 3-4 week recess's they take each year... :wink:
 

hypocritexposer

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just as alcohol consumption causes diabetes, Free trade agreements are the cause of jobs "going overseas".

:roll:


littlejoe said:
Not at all!! Republicans have always been in vanguard===leading the charge, as it were----(ever hear of mitt Romney?) in exporting jobs overseas!!! Good to see demo's stymying dopey.


In his 2010 State of the Union address, President Barack Obama promised to double U.S. exports by the year 2015. The ambitious trade policy, he said at the time, could create two million jobs and be a boon to the stagnate U.S. economy.

Halfway through this five-year timeline, however, the U.S. is nowhere close to realizing the goal.

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/07/12/obama-nowhere-near-accomplishing-freaking-nuts-2010-promise-to-double-exports/#ixzz2rqQelDzF


LJ? How many jobs have been outsourced overseas, since obama became President?
 

Tam

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littlejoe said:
Tam said:
Harry Reid rejects President Obama’s trade push
By ERIC BRADNER and MANU RAJU | 1/29/14 2:10 PM EST Updated: 1/29/14 5:53 PM EST

President Barack Obama’s push for the two largest free trade deals in U.S. history has hit a major roadblock: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid.

The Nevada Democrat said he opposes a bill that would fast-track the Pacific Rim and European Union pacts through Congress with limited debate and no amendments – which the White House says is crucial to gaining concessions from other countries to finalize those deals.

Reid made it abundantly clear that he has voiced his concerns to Obama’s administration, as well as the outgoing chairman of the Senate Finance Committee, Max Baucus (D-Mont.), and his replacement, Ron Wyden (D-Ore.), who would take the lead on the issue once Baucus departs to become U.S. ambassador to China.

“Everyone knows how I feel about this,” Reid said just off the Senate floor. “Sen. Baucus knows. Sen. Wyden knows. The White House knows. Everyone would be well-advised to not push this right now.”

Will the Republicans get the blame for standing in Obama's way on this one and will Obama use his pen to successfully go around HIS DEMOCRAT ROADBLOCK SENATOR REID. The same roadblock that has stopped any of the Republican Controlled House's bill that would create US jobs from getting to the Senate floor for a honest vote?

Not at all!! Republicans have always been in vanguard===leading the charge, as it were----(ever hear of mitt Romney?) in exporting jobs overseas!!! Good to see demo's stymying dopey.


President Obama’s Jobs Advisor Ships Jobs Overseas.

No wonder jobs aren’t being created. The President listens closely to Jeffrey Immelt, the CEO of corporate welfare recipient large multinational General Electric about jobs policy. So what’s GE doing about jobs? Bloomberg reports:


General Electric Co.’s health-care unit, the world’s biggest maker of medical-imaging machines, is moving the headquarters of its 115-year-old X-ray business to Beijing to tap growth in China.

“A handful” of top managers will move to the Chinese capital and there won’t be any job cuts, Anne LeGrand, vice president and general manager of X-ray for GE Healthcare, said in an interview. The headquarters will move from Waukesha, Wisconsin, amid a broader parent-company plan to invest about $2 billion across China, including opening six “customer innovation” and development centers.

The move follows the introduction earlier this year of GE Healthcare’s “Spring Wind” initiative to develop and distribute medical products and services in China, GE said in a statement today. More than 20 percent of the X-ray unit’s new products will be developed in China, LeGrand said.

Since Immelt took over in 2001, GE has shed 34,000 jobs in the U.S., according to its most recent annual filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission. But it’s added 25,000 jobs overseas

This again is Obama's Jobs advisor peewee, so looks like Romney is not the only one that was shipping jobs. :roll:

Now to Romney

Posted at 12:09 PM ET, 07/16/2012
Politifact: Mitt Romney’s companies sent jobs overseas
By Greg Sargent
“Mitt Romney’s companies sent jobs overseas.”
Is that statement true or false?

It passed mostly unnoticed, but on Friday, a well-respected fact-checking organization — one cited by the Romney campaign itself on occasion — essentially agreed that this is a defensible assertion.

In its Friday piece, Politifact gave a “half true” rating to the following Obama campaign claim: “Mitt Romney’s companies were pioneers in outsourcing U.S. jobs to low-wage countries.” But if you dig deep into the piece, you find that the main reason for the “half” true rating was the Obama camp’s claim that Romney’s companies “pioneered” this practice. Politifact disagreed with that.

But Politifact agreed that it’s fair game to describe these as “Romney’s companies.”

For example, in 2000, a Bain-controlled firm, Modus Media, closed a plant in California and opened one in Mexico. The Romney camp, of course, has argued that jobs were moved overseas after Romney left the firm. The Obama campaign has argued that documents show Romney was still CEO and chairman, and should be held responsible for the company’s activities at the time.

Funny how the Obama campaign thought Romney should be held responsible for those jobs after he left the business but Obama is not to be held responsible for what his Administration is doing while he is in the White House. :roll:

Still want to go there PEEWEE.
 
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