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The Tyson beef packing plant in Lexington got blacklisted

HAY MAKER

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Nebraska Cattlemen decries unfair rules on U.S. beef to Japan
Monday, February 19, 2007, 2:56 PM

by Peter Shinn

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AUDIO: Peter Shinn reports (1 min MP3).

The Tyson beef packing plant in Lexington got blacklisted Friday by Japan after accidentally sending 95 pounds of rib meat to Japan. The meat came from cattle under 30 months of age and is otherwise safe. But Japan insists U.S. beef must come from animals 20 months of age or younger.

Michael Kelsey, Executive Vice President of Nebraska Cattlemen, told Brownfield that Friday's incident shows the rules on shipping beef to Japan just aren't right. "Our trade with Japan is not fair, and it should be," said Kelsey.

Indeed, Kelsey said there's absolutely no reason for Japan's age restrictions on U.S. beef. "Our border with Japan should be open - our beef is safe," Kelsey emphasized. "We have testing procedures, we have strategies in place that keep our beef safe, and so it's frustrating to say the least."

U.S. Ag Secretary Mike Johanns has indicated he wants further talks with Japan on relaxing their restrictions against U.S. beef. Japanese officials haven't yet indicated a willingness to hold such talks.

In the meantime, Tyson has three other beef processing facilities in West Point, York and Norfolk, Nebraska, that will continue to send beef to Japan. Tyson spokesman Gary Mickelson told Brownfield Friday the company is working with USDA to get its Lexington plant off Japan's blacklist.
 

TimH

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Sandhusker said:
What a wonderful agreement the USDA negotiated for us. I hope every Tyson plant gets blacklisted.

Why on Earth would you hope such a thing, Sandhusker? I can't see how that would be of any benefit to cattle producers, can you??
 

Sandhusker

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TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
What a wonderful agreement the USDA negotiated for us. I hope every Tyson plant gets blacklisted.

Why on Earth would you hope such a thing, Sandhusker? I can't see how that would be of any benefit to cattle producers, can you??

They're behind the reason why we got this crappy deal and why Creekstone & others can't test. If not for them, we would of been shipping beef to Japan three years ago and at undoubtably higher volumes. We also would of had Korea.
 

TimH

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Sandhusker said:
TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
What a wonderful agreement the USDA negotiated for us. I hope every Tyson plant gets blacklisted.

Why on Earth would you hope such a thing, Sandhusker? I can't see how that would be of any benefit to cattle producers, can you??

They're behind the reason why we got this crappy deal and why Creekstone & others can't test. If not for them, we would of been shipping beef to Japan three years ago and at undoubtably higher volumes. We also would of had Korea.


How does Tyson foods being "blacklisted" benefit "grassroots" cattle producers?? Please explain.
 

Sandhusker

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TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
TimH said:
Why on Earth would you hope such a thing, Sandhusker? I can't see how that would be of any benefit to cattle producers, can you??

They're behind the reason why we got this crappy deal and why Creekstone & others can't test. If not for them, we would of been shipping beef to Japan three years ago and at undoubtably higher volumes. We also would of had Korea.


How does Tyson foods being "blacklisted" benefit "grassroots" cattle producers?? Please explain.

How does letting Tyson et al set policy for the USDA benefit grassroots cattle producers? Please explain.
 

TimH

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Sandhusker said:
TimH said:
Sandhusker said:
They're behind the reason why we got this crappy deal and why Creekstone & others can't test. If not for them, we would of been shipping beef to Japan three years ago and at undoubtably higher volumes. We also would of had Korea.


How does Tyson foods being "blacklisted" benefit "grassroots" cattle producers?? Please explain.

How does letting Tyson et al set policy for the USDA benefit grassroots cattle producers? Please explain.

You first.How does Tyson foods being "blacklisted" benefit "grassroots" cattle producers??
 

Texan

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Sandhusker said:
Tim, you're just trying to pick a nitty fight, and I'm not biting. Figure it out yourself.
Maybe he wasn't just trying to pick a fight. Maybe he was just trying to understand your reasoning - IF you can call that 'reasoning'. I'd like to have you explain it, too...

Sandhusker said:
I hope every Tyson plant gets blacklisted.
How does this help cattlemen? Other than to satisfy a childish desire for vengeance?
 

Ben Roberts

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HAY MAKER said:
Nebraska Cattlemen decries unfair rules on U.S. beef to Japan
Monday, February 19, 2007, 2:56 PM

by Peter Shinn

Audio related to this story

AUDIO: Peter Shinn reports (1 min MP3).

The Tyson beef packing plant in Lexington got blacklisted Friday by Japan after accidentally sending 95 pounds of rib meat to Japan. The meat came from cattle under 30 months of age and is otherwise safe. But Japan insists U.S. beef must come from animals 20 months of age or younger.

Michael Kelsey, Executive Vice President of Nebraska Cattlemen, told Brownfield that Friday's incident shows the rules on shipping beef to Japan just aren't right. "Our trade with Japan is not fair, and it should be," said Kelsey.

Indeed, Kelsey said there's absolutely no reason for Japan's age restrictions on U.S. beef. "Our border with Japan should be open - our beef is safe," Kelsey emphasized. "We have testing procedures, we have strategies in place that keep our beef safe, and so it's frustrating to say the least."

U.S. Ag Secretary Mike Johanns has indicated he wants further talks with Japan on relaxing their restrictions against U.S. beef. Japanese officials haven't yet indicated a willingness to hold such talks.

In the meantime, Tyson has three other beef processing facilities in West Point, York and Norfolk, Nebraska, that will continue to send beef to Japan. Tyson spokesman Gary Mickelson told Brownfield Friday the company is working with USDA to get its Lexington plant off Japan's blacklist.

I, don't see how this can be possible, the West Point and Norfolk, Nebraska plants, have been closed for almost a year now. Did Gary Mickelson, not know that!

Ben Roberts
 

Econ101

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Ben Roberts said:
HAY MAKER said:
Nebraska Cattlemen decries unfair rules on U.S. beef to Japan
Monday, February 19, 2007, 2:56 PM

by Peter Shinn

Audio related to this story

AUDIO: Peter Shinn reports (1 min MP3).

The Tyson beef packing plant in Lexington got blacklisted Friday by Japan after accidentally sending 95 pounds of rib meat to Japan. The meat came from cattle under 30 months of age and is otherwise safe. But Japan insists U.S. beef must come from animals 20 months of age or younger.

Michael Kelsey, Executive Vice President of Nebraska Cattlemen, told Brownfield that Friday's incident shows the rules on shipping beef to Japan just aren't right. "Our trade with Japan is not fair, and it should be," said Kelsey.

Indeed, Kelsey said there's absolutely no reason for Japan's age restrictions on U.S. beef. "Our border with Japan should be open - our beef is safe," Kelsey emphasized. "We have testing procedures, we have strategies in place that keep our beef safe, and so it's frustrating to say the least."

U.S. Ag Secretary Mike Johanns has indicated he wants further talks with Japan on relaxing their restrictions against U.S. beef. Japanese officials haven't yet indicated a willingness to hold such talks.

In the meantime, Tyson has three other beef processing facilities in West Point, York and Norfolk, Nebraska, that will continue to send beef to Japan. Tyson spokesman Gary Mickelson told Brownfield Friday the company is working with USDA to get its Lexington plant off Japan's blacklist.

I, don't see how this can be possible, the West Point and Norfolk, Nebraska plants, have been closed for almost a year now. Did Gary Mickelson, not know that!

Ben Roberts

You have to wonder if aging in the package is counted in the UTM (under thirty month) requirement by Japan.
 

Texan

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Econ101 said:
You have to wonder if aging in the package is counted in the UTM (under thirty month) requirement by Japan.
I thought they had an under twenty month requirement? :???:

Sorry, doktor ekon - guess I'll have to try to keep up better... :oops: :lol:
 

Econ101

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Texan said:
Sandhusker said:
Tim, you're just trying to pick a nitty fight, and I'm not biting. Figure it out yourself.
Maybe he wasn't just trying to pick a fight. Maybe he was just trying to understand your reasoning - IF you can call that 'reasoning'. I'd like to have you explain it, too...

Sandhusker said:
I hope every Tyson plant gets blacklisted.
How does this help cattlemen? Other than to satisfy a childish desire for vengeance?

I knew you didn't understand the cattle business, Texan. Proof again.

Competition will help the cattle business and shake the grip of market power. Tyson losing its comparative advantage will help in that respect.
Free and working markets is a necessity for cattlemen to be treated fairly for the product they produce. If you do not believe this, look at the poultry market where there is none.

More and more it is looking like you are nothing more than a packer lackey placed on this site or have such a limited amount of knowledge that you can not be coherent when it comes to the issues. It seems you are more a part of the divide and conquer strategy by packers than actually trying to help cattlemen.

Are you a packer lackey or doing this out of ignorance? If you are, why not just be honest about it? If you are not, please learn a little more about markets and their importance for producers before you start asking questions that are so irrelevant to the topic.
 

Texan

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Econ101 said:
I knew you didn't understand the cattle business, Texan. Proof again.
I already admitted I've got a lot to learn...

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=190380#190380

:lol:
 

Texan

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Econ101 said:
More and more it is looking like you...have such a limited amount of knowledge that you can not be coherent when it comes to the issues.
Teach me some more, doktor koherent-on-the-issues. I just love it when you talk cattle. :lol:
 

Econ101

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Texan said:
Econ101 said:
You have to wonder if aging in the package is counted in the UTM (under thirty month) requirement by Japan.
I thought they had an under twenty month requirement? :???:

Sorry, doktor ekon - guess I'll have to try to keep up better... :oops: :lol:

It seems you and SH don't include the extra 12 months in the package from non operating plants---but the Japanese do!!!
 

Texan

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Speaking of being coherent, would you mind finishing the last sentence in this post, please? I'm trying to learn something here. Every word counts. :lol:

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=190383#190383
 

Texan

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Econ101 said:
Texan said:
Econ101 said:
You have to wonder if aging in the package is counted in the UTM (under thirty month) requirement by Japan.
I thought they had an under twenty month requirement? :???:

Sorry, doktor ekon - guess I'll have to try to keep up better... :oops: :lol:

It seems you and SH don't include the extra 12 months in the package from non operating plants---but the Japanese do!!!
Another pathetic attempt to cover your ass instead of just admitting that you made a mistake. I think I'm learning more from you all the time. :lol:
 

Econ101

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Texan said:
Speaking of being coherent, would you mind finishing the last sentence in this post, please? I'm trying to learn something here. Every word counts. :lol:

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=190383#190383

Just for you, my favorite stalker. You got anything on the cattle business?
 
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