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ranch hand said:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/


The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.

The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.

Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.

If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU


Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...

And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...

One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...

I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
 

Larrry

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You can bet that the leftwingernuts will jump on this. They will see a way to supposedly help their regime leader. After all they can't defend his record
 

Tam

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Libertarians are worried about getting on the ballot, Republicans are worried about voter fraud and Dems are worried their voters will not beable to vote due to Voter ID laws. This is all done to further their advantage on election day. When are all of them going to worry about FAIR ELECTIONS FGS? If a Political party nominates a LEGAL QUALIFIED candidate then that candidate should be put on every State ballot. The Voters themselves deserve the right to vote for the person they want from the WHOLE FIELD OF CANDIDATES not just those from a ballot that gives one party a bit more advantage than they would have in any other state in the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

If any State can prove that a party Candidate is not qualified to be on the ballot then that candidate should be removed FROM ALL STATE BALLOTS until he or she is found to meet ALL QUALIFICATIONS WITHOUT ANY DOUBT.

If there is any serious questions from ANY VOTER about the candidates qualifications, then the courts should be forced to listen to the evidence and rule. NO MORE OF THIS YOU DON'T HAVE STANDING CRAP. Every voter in the US should have standing on who is the President as if elected that person can write any law he wants. Obama has proven this several times by bypassing a congressional votes on a bills and implimenting them by Departmental regulations or executive order to BUY VOTES.

The President is to be the representatives OF THE PEOPLE and ALL THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND VOTE FOR THEIR CHOICE OF ALL CANDIDATES.
 

Larrry

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Tam said:
ALL THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND VOTE FOR THEIR CHOICE OF ALL CANDIDATES.

But only if you are a leftwingernut asking questions of a conservative.
 

Tam

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OH and might I suggest that ALL CANDIDATES BE PROPERLY VETTED. By that I mean a committee of bipartisan law enforcement or millitary take on the responsiblitiy to actually request and recieve the candidates proof of NATURAL BORN CITIZENSHIP, Passport records to make sure the candidate has never held a passport from a foreign country that would indicate whether or not the candidate was once a citizen of another country. The commitee should also be in charge of making sure any record that is requested by the voters is looked at to see if there is anything in them that could disqualify the candidate. This should be done when the candidate files his papers to run in the primaries. This should not be left to the Party as if they pick the person they want and his record are shady they might overlook something that a BIPARTISAN GROUP WOULD NOT. If their shady candidate makes it through the primary then people like Oldtimer will believe the records were verified when they were not. The time to do the verification of a candidate qualification is not after he is on the ballot it is before the ballots are ever printed. And with the case of Obama it sure should not be when he is running for RE-ELECTION. :mad:

Personally I could care less about what a guy pays in income taxes as long as they are paying what they are LEGAL REQUIRED TO. If there are any questions then let the committee investigate the forms and if their is nothing found to be illegal then seal them and do not release to the press what they had to pay. The only reason the Income Tax of Romney are being brought up is so Obama's team can try tag him as a RICH WHITE GUY that is trying to buy the election. To me I would rather have a rich successful businessman of any color be President than an INCOMPETENT COMMUNITY ORGANIZER THAT HAS NEVER EVEN RUN A LEMONADE STAND USING HIS SKIN COLOR AND THE D BEHIND HIS NAME AS HIS MOST VALUABLE ELECTION RESOURSES. :mad:
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
ranch hand said:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/


The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.

The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.

Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.

If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU


Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...

And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...

One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...

I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:
 

Tam

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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
ranch hand said:
http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/


The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.

The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.


In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.

If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU


Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...

And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...

One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...

I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:

That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?
 
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Tam said:
Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU


Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...

And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...

One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...

I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:

That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?


Tam- its not only Repubs- its both Repubs and Dems joining hands and singing Kumbaya and passing laws making it difficult for independent candidates or 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot... And its not only Washington- its almost every state in the union...
Actually in Washington- Obama may lose more votes to the Libertarian Gary Johnson than Romney....

The Montana legislature back in the 80's formed a committee to study doing away with partisan designations in all local, county, and state elections... I know some of the folks that were on the committee...
What they found was that this idea was greatly backed by the public- and when they went to present it to the Legislature- the two parties had gotten together- realized the power of the cult/cult money would be lost and got the the whole committee study buried...
Our county put it to a vote- and they shot down the old partisan politics and cults for all local or county elections by a 2 to 1 margin... So now everyone in the local/county runs as an Independent- on their qualities and platform- not on some cultist parties....
 

Steve

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someone can't read or comprehend well

since 1985 the state of Washington has had a democratic governor



Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”

In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.

notice the word state... when did Romney and the republicans move to Washington state?

and if you think the state is out of play for Romney..
Washington Legislature: Balance of power in state Senate could tip toward Republicans in next election

OLYMPIA – Lawmakers say control of the Washington state Senate is entirely up for grabs heading into the November election.

"It's really a tossup," said Sen. Craig Pridemore, D-Vancouver. "There are going to be some vulnerable Democratic seats and some vulnerable Republican seats."

so the libertarians want be spoilers to overrule the people and re-elect Obama
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Mike said:
The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:

That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?


Tam- its not only Repubs- its both Repubs and Dems joining hands and singing Kumbaya and passing laws making it difficult for independent candidates or 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot... And its not only Washington- its almost every state in the union...
Actually in Washington- Obama may lose more votes to the Libertarian Gary Johnson than Romney....

The Montana legislature back in the 80's formed a committee to study doing away with partisan designations in all local, county, and state elections... I know some of the folks that were on the committee...
What they found was that this idea was greatly backed by the public- and when they went to present it to the Legislature- the two parties had gotten together- realized the power of the cult/cult money would be lost and got the the whole committee study buried...
Our county put it to a vote- and they shot down the old partisan politics and cults for all local or county elections by a 2 to 1 margin... So now everyone in the local/county runs as an Independent- on their qualities and platform- not on some cultist parties....

So let me get this clear Dems had control and in all likelyhood needed no Republican to pass the bill but you know for sure that it was the Republicans that were responsible for the bill passing. :roll:

It seems to me Obama has claimed certain bills have passed with Bipartisan support in Washington DC too only to find out that it was one or two Republicans like Snowe and Collins that actually voted with the Dems to pass some bill that was meant to further bankrupt the US in record time.

Funny how when the Dems and Republicans vote together against a bill it is never seen as a Bipartisan effort as then it is ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT the bill failed. :roll:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?


Tam- its not only Repubs- its both Repubs and Dems joining hands and singing Kumbaya and passing laws making it difficult for independent candidates or 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot... And its not only Washington- its almost every state in the union...
Actually in Washington- Obama may lose more votes to the Libertarian Gary Johnson than Romney....

The Montana legislature back in the 80's formed a committee to study doing away with partisan designations in all local, county, and state elections... I know some of the folks that were on the committee...
What they found was that this idea was greatly backed by the public- and when they went to present it to the Legislature- the two parties had gotten together- realized the power of the cult/cult money would be lost and got the the whole committee study buried...
Our county put it to a vote- and they shot down the old partisan politics and cults for all local or county elections by a 2 to 1 margin... So now everyone in the local/county runs as an Independent- on their qualities and platform- not on some cultist parties....

So let me get this clear Dems had control and in all likelyhood needed no Republican to pass the bill but you know for sure that it was the Republicans that were responsible for the bill passing. :roll:

It seems to me Obama has claimed certain bills have passed with Bipartisan support in Washington DC too only to find out that it was one or two Republicans like Snowe and Collins that actually voted with the Dems to pass some bill that was meant to further bankrupt the US in record time.

Funny how when the Dems and Republicans vote together against a bill it is never seen as a Bipartisan effort as then it is ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT the bill failed. :roll:

Tam- where did I say that... You are fantasyzing again... It was both party's that did this... In Washington and most states of the union... Montana has the same type of rules that hinder independent/3rd party candidates- but the Repubs are controlling that legislature..

Probably won't go anywhere anyway and some judge will put Romney on the ballot- but I just think it is a just spin to have the 3rd party groups and independents make the Dems and Repubs live up to the letter of the laws they passed to stop independents and third parties from having easy access to the ballots...

Personally- I'd rather see a lot more independent and 3rd party candidates and less cult follower candidates that seem they can't think/act for themselves or whats best for the country anymore- and just follow in lockstep with what will help the cult and those lobbyiest pouring money into the cult....
 

Mike

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Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:

Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
 
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Mike said:
Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:

Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

If you want to grab short hairs- Prove to me that no Repubs voted for that Washington law...
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:

Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

If you want to grab short hairs- Prove to me that no Repubs voted for that Washington law...

You do an extremely fine job in proving yourself a liar...all on your own. You certainly don't need my help. :roll:
 
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Libertarians say ‘let Gary Johnson debate’
Posted at 2:06 pm on August 19, 2012 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments

Penn Jillette
✔@pennjillette Wouldn't it be nice to see another POV in the presidential debates in October? #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. @GovGaryJohnson Let's Twitter bomb.19 Aug 12

Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico, is the Libertarian Party’s nominee for President. Supporters of Johnson say he should be included in the presidential debates alongside President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.

Traditionally, the decision about who is included in the presidential debates has been delegated to the Commission on Presidential Debates.

According to the Commission’s web site, a candidate must show support of at least 15 percent in polls — a tough standard for any third-party candidate. So far Johnson has not come close.

Today, Libertarians are holding a “Twitter bomb” to show their support for Johnson’s inclusion in the 2012 presidential debates. They are using the hashtag #LetGaryJohnsonDebate:


Deana Svoboda
@DoggieMom123 19 Aug 12 @Judgenap Today we're holding a Twitter bomb to #LetGaryJohnsonDebate in October. We invite you to join our cause! @GovGaryJohnson

Judge Napolitano ✔@Judgenap @DoggieMom123 @GovGaryJohnson I absolutely believe that they should #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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Alyssa Anderson
@moonglaive Wouldn't it be nice to see another POV in the presidential debates in October? #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. @GovGaryJohnson
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Laurien Rose
@yunaxxkyo You can already imagine how Obama & Romney will sidestep every question. Make it fun & #LetGaryJohnsonDebate @GovGaryJohnson #tlot #ronpaul
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♉DeBenedetto
@missbededo Alcohol makes you look like a sloppy fool, but no ones telling you to ban that. Legalize marijuana for all. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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David Brewer
@IAM_r3VOLution #Obama and #Romey support more #War, #Debt, #NDAA, #PatriotAct #FEDReserve #IRS. #NoRealDifference. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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Laurien Rose
@yunaxxkyo Republicans & Democrats formed the Commission on Pres. Debates to keep a monopoly on the process. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate @GovGaryJohnson
19 Aug 12 ReplyRetweet

FavoriteJohnson almost certainly will not win the election, but he may affect the outcome in a few battleground states. According to FoxNews.com, Johnson is polling at 13 percent in New Mexico and 7 percent in Colorado — “certainly enough to disadvantage whichever major-party candidate he’s drawing votes away from.”

Some assume that Johnson hurts Romney more than he hurts Obama:

Michael Joyce
@michaelrjoyce Please don't #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. Splitting the conservative vote helps Obama...not America.
19 Aug 12 ReplyRetweetFavorite

This assumption, however, may be unwarranted. An early-August poll by Public Policy Polling found Obama leading Romney in a one-on-one match-up in Colorado by 6 points, but Obama’s lead was cut to 4 points when voters were given the choice of supporting Johnson. “That’s because Johnson gets 13% of independents, taking more from [respondents] who lean toward Obama than Romney,” according to the polling firm.
 

Steve

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Libertarians say ‘let Gary Johnson debate’

in any other election I would have recommended and even fought for the early debates to include all presidential candidates..

by a series of debates

have one in July.. around Independence Day and for any registered candidate on the ballot in any state or in a primary in a national party..

say in August have another debates,, make it easy.. if you are on the ballot in all fifty states.. you can debate..

and the last one with the top three.. then if they have the percentages of support they are in the Presidential debates..

but why must these guys wait for some commission to invite them..

put some effort into organizing a legitimate debate schedule.. it really isn't that hard.. any decent promoter could do it..

but for Johnson to now not want to play by rules that have existed for a few decades and to just want to be a spoiler is sour grapes..
 

TexasBred

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State Republican Party Chairman Kirby Wilbur said the lawsuit was a “silly matter” and that Rossi was indeed nominated by the party’s board before the 2010 election, although he was not nominated at the state convention.“We have legal documents that show that,” Wilbur said.

Brian Zylstra, a spokesman for the Washington Secretary of State’s office, told The Daily Caller, “We expect [the lawsuit] will be dismissed.”

Although the definition cited in the Libertarian Party’s lawsuit “is still on the books, much of it is no longer operative because it has been impliedly repealed by Initiative 872,” which established the top two primary system in 2004, said Zylstra.
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:

Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!

If you want to grab short hairs- Prove to me that no Repubs voted for that Washington law...

I'm betting Mike wants nothing to do with your short hairs--- :roll:

but you are the one that claimed the Republicans were involved in passing a bill after claiming a Republican didn't have a snowball chance in hell of winning in Washington. So prove to us that the party that as little to no say in Washington was involved in this bill. Not that I expect you to back your claims as you never have. :roll: All you want to do is make disgusting comments to shut down conversation and hide until the heat is off. :roll:
 

hypocritexposer

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I think Roseanne Barr should be in on the debates.


she's against the wars that obama has been running and her running mate is sure brighter than Biden.


Dems. are sure to vote for her and Cindy Sheehan.


they'd probably even pick up most of the leftist female vote.
 
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