ranch hand
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http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/
ranch hand said:http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/
The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.
The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”
If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.
Tam said:ALL THE PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE A RIGHT TO QUESTION HIS QUALIFICATIONS AND VOTE FOR THEIR CHOICE OF ALL CANDIDATES.
Oldtimer said:ranch hand said:http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/
The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.
The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”
If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU
Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...
And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...
One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
Mike said:Oldtimer said:ranch hand said:http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/
The Washington State Libertarian Party filed a lawsuit on Thursday asking that Mitt Romney be removed from the state’s November ballot.
The suit says that the state Republican Party should legally be considered a minor party because it did not officially nominate a Senate candidate in 2010.
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.
If the lawsuit is successful, Republican candidate Mitt Romney would be removed from the ballot, as the deadline for minor party candidates to qualify has already passed.
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU
Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...
And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...
One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:
Tam said:Mike said:Oldtimer said:Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2012/08/17/libertarians-sue-to-block-romney-from-washington-state-ballot/#ixzz240d4eCXU
Ranchhand- I don't think its going to make any big difference because Romney stands a snowballs chance in he!! of winning Washington...
And I can see the reasoning and feelings behind the Libertarians and any other 3rd party in their wanting to make sure the law is followed to the exact letter- since the Repubs and Dems have done that to them for years trying to keep them off the ballots...
One of the only places R's and D's have cooperated in years is in getting election laws passed making it tough for 3rd parties and/or Independents to get on the ballots- and/or any new party oppose them...
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:
That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?
Washington State law says, “‘Major political party’ means a political party of which at least one nominee for president, vice president, United States senator, or a statewide office received at least five percent of the total vote cast at the last preceding state general election in an even-numbered year.”
In 2010, the Republican Party did not nominate a Senate candidate at its convention, but the state’s non-partisan “top two” primary system resulted in Republican Dino Rossi appearing on the ballot. The Senate race was the only statewide contest in 2010.
Washington Legislature: Balance of power in state Senate could tip toward Republicans in next election
OLYMPIA – Lawmakers say control of the Washington state Senate is entirely up for grabs heading into the November election.
"It's really a tossup," said Sen. Craig Pridemore, D-Vancouver. "There are going to be some vulnerable Democratic seats and some vulnerable Republican seats."
Oldtimer said:Tam said:Mike said:The Dems have had control of the House & Senate in Washington since 2004.
How did Romney and/or Repubs pass this law? :roll:
That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?
Tam- its not only Repubs- its both Repubs and Dems joining hands and singing Kumbaya and passing laws making it difficult for independent candidates or 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot... And its not only Washington- its almost every state in the union...
Actually in Washington- Obama may lose more votes to the Libertarian Gary Johnson than Romney....
The Montana legislature back in the 80's formed a committee to study doing away with partisan designations in all local, county, and state elections... I know some of the folks that were on the committee...
What they found was that this idea was greatly backed by the public- and when they went to present it to the Legislature- the two parties had gotten together- realized the power of the cult/cult money would be lost and got the the whole committee study buried...
Our county put it to a vote- and they shot down the old partisan politics and cults for all local or county elections by a 2 to 1 margin... So now everyone in the local/county runs as an Independent- on their qualities and platform- not on some cultist parties....
Tam said:Oldtimer said:Tam said:That is comical isn't it? First it is Romney doesn't have a snowball chance in hell as a Republican candidate in Washington according to Oldtimer BUT then it is the Republican party passing the law that keeps people off the ballot. :roll: Tell us Oldtimer how is it that a party that doesn't have a snowball chance in Hell in Washington is passing laws in that state? :?
Tam- its not only Repubs- its both Repubs and Dems joining hands and singing Kumbaya and passing laws making it difficult for independent candidates or 3rd party candidates to get on the ballot... And its not only Washington- its almost every state in the union...
Actually in Washington- Obama may lose more votes to the Libertarian Gary Johnson than Romney....
The Montana legislature back in the 80's formed a committee to study doing away with partisan designations in all local, county, and state elections... I know some of the folks that were on the committee...
What they found was that this idea was greatly backed by the public- and when they went to present it to the Legislature- the two parties had gotten together- realized the power of the cult/cult money would be lost and got the the whole committee study buried...
Our county put it to a vote- and they shot down the old partisan politics and cults for all local or county elections by a 2 to 1 margin... So now everyone in the local/county runs as an Independent- on their qualities and platform- not on some cultist parties....
So let me get this clear Dems had control and in all likelyhood needed no Republican to pass the bill but you know for sure that it was the Republicans that were responsible for the bill passing. :roll:
It seems to me Obama has claimed certain bills have passed with Bipartisan support in Washington DC too only to find out that it was one or two Republicans like Snowe and Collins that actually voted with the Dems to pass some bill that was meant to further bankrupt the US in record time.
Funny how when the Dems and Republicans vote together against a bill it is never seen as a Bipartisan effort as then it is ALL THE REPUBLICANS FAULT the bill failed. :roll:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
Mike said:Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:
Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
Oldtimer said:Mike said:Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:
Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
If you want to grab short hairs- Prove to me that no Repubs voted for that Washington law...
Libertarians say ‘let Gary Johnson debate’
Posted at 2:06 pm on August 19, 2012 by Twitchy Staff | View Comments
Penn Jillette
✔@pennjillette Wouldn't it be nice to see another POV in the presidential debates in October? #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. @GovGaryJohnson Let's Twitter bomb.19 Aug 12
Gary Johnson, former Governor of New Mexico, is the Libertarian Party’s nominee for President. Supporters of Johnson say he should be included in the presidential debates alongside President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney.
Traditionally, the decision about who is included in the presidential debates has been delegated to the Commission on Presidential Debates.
According to the Commission’s web site, a candidate must show support of at least 15 percent in polls — a tough standard for any third-party candidate. So far Johnson has not come close.
Today, Libertarians are holding a “Twitter bomb” to show their support for Johnson’s inclusion in the 2012 presidential debates. They are using the hashtag #LetGaryJohnsonDebate:
Deana Svoboda
@DoggieMom123 19 Aug 12 @Judgenap Today we're holding a Twitter bomb to #LetGaryJohnsonDebate in October. We invite you to join our cause! @GovGaryJohnson
Judge Napolitano ✔@Judgenap @DoggieMom123 @GovGaryJohnson I absolutely believe that they should #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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Alyssa Anderson
@moonglaive Wouldn't it be nice to see another POV in the presidential debates in October? #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. @GovGaryJohnson
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Laurien Rose
@yunaxxkyo You can already imagine how Obama & Romney will sidestep every question. Make it fun & #LetGaryJohnsonDebate @GovGaryJohnson #tlot #ronpaul
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DeBenedetto
@missbededo Alcohol makes you look like a sloppy fool, but no ones telling you to ban that. Legalize marijuana for all. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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David Brewer
@IAM_r3VOLution #Obama and #Romey support more #War, #Debt, #NDAA, #PatriotAct #FEDReserve #IRS. #NoRealDifference. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate
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Laurien Rose
@yunaxxkyo Republicans & Democrats formed the Commission on Pres. Debates to keep a monopoly on the process. #LetGaryJohnsonDebate @GovGaryJohnson
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FavoriteJohnson almost certainly will not win the election, but he may affect the outcome in a few battleground states. According to FoxNews.com, Johnson is polling at 13 percent in New Mexico and 7 percent in Colorado — “certainly enough to disadvantage whichever major-party candidate he’s drawing votes away from.”
Some assume that Johnson hurts Romney more than he hurts Obama:
Michael Joyce
@michaelrjoyce Please don't #LetGaryJohnsonDebate. Splitting the conservative vote helps Obama...not America.
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This assumption, however, may be unwarranted. An early-August poll by Public Policy Polling found Obama leading Romney in a one-on-one match-up in Colorado by 6 points, but Obama’s lead was cut to 4 points when voters were given the choice of supporting Johnson. “That’s because Johnson gets 13% of independents, taking more from [respondents] who lean toward Obama than Romney,” according to the polling firm.
Libertarians say ‘let Gary Johnson debate’
State Republican Party Chairman Kirby Wilbur said the lawsuit was a “silly matter” and that Rossi was indeed nominated by the party’s board before the 2010 election, although he was not nominated at the state convention.“We have legal documents that show that,” Wilbur said.
Brian Zylstra, a spokesman for the Washington Secretary of State’s office, told The Daily Caller, “We expect [the lawsuit] will be dismissed.”
Although the definition cited in the Libertarian Party’s lawsuit “is still on the books, much of it is no longer operative because it has been impliedly repealed by Initiative 872,” which established the top two primary system in 2004, said Zylstra.
Oldtimer said:Mike said:Where did you say that? :roll:
Try here:
Oldtimer wrote:
I have little sympathy for Romney or Repubs in this case as this was a law they helped pass to keep these other parties off the ballot- and now are whining when it comes around and bites them in the arse!!
If you want to grab short hairs- Prove to me that no Repubs voted for that Washington law...