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I thought the white supremacy nutcase movement in the state was pretty well gone with the dismantling of the Aryan Nations, Neo Nazis, Posse Comitatus, Freemen, etc. etc over the years...

But with the arrival of the Tea Party I saw much of the same rhetoric being spouted- and some of the same folks now cloaking themselves as Teabaggers.... Now it looks like they are importing themselves and their groups to the state.. :mad:
Positive thing is its nice to see our part of the state has maintained its sanity and has no chapters.... :)

The state of hate: Some see Montana as last best place for the white race

4:16 AM, Aug. 14, 2011 | 34Comments
These photographs were entered as state's evidence during the trial of Billings teenager Allen Michael Goff, photo at right, following the nonfatal shooting of a Hispanic male. The images center around Goff's involvement in the Montana Creativity Movement, one of the most energetic race-focused groups in Montana. PHOTOS COURTESY OF YELLOWSTONE COUNTY



A new flag with an old message is flying in Montana.

Montana Creativity Movement members bear as their standard a banner marked with a W for the white race. The W is topped by a crown symbolizing elite status and with a halo representing the sacredness of the race they worship.

They count chapters in Billings, Laurel, Lockwood, Miles City, Bozeman, Butte, Helena, Missoula, Park City and Shepherd.

"We are your neighbors, your best friend, your co-workers, etc.," organizer Westin Adams said. "The only difference is we are loyal to our racial family."

The MCM has members and supporters in northcentral Montana and plans to use those links to establish chapters here next year.

They are the people with the "most energy on the ground" among a rising number of white supremacist groups in the state, said Travis McAdam, executive director of the Montana Human Rights Network.

"In Montana it's been an interesting couple of years, as far as a real growth in white supremacists on the ground actually doing stuff in communities," he said.

"We've had Creators in Montana pretty much as long as we've been around," McAdam said. "During the 1990s, they were mostly focused on Western Montana. This time around it's mostly focused out of Billings, and it's a much younger group of activists."

In white supremacist circles, Montana has taken on mythological status as a potential part of an Aryan homeland.

Thirteen hate groups are active across the state, from Miles City to Kalispell, in Billings, Lewistown, Missoula, Helena and Bozeman.


Across the country, the number of hate groups is increasing as well. For the first time since the Southern Poverty Law Center began tracking hate groups in the 1980s, the number of American hate groups has topped 1,000.

The biggest growth came in anti-government organizations, which gained 300 new groups for a 60 percent gain.

Throughout the Northwest, 54 active hate groups were identified, with 15 in Oregon and 13 each in Washington, Idaho and Montana, giving the Treasure State a hate group concentration per million people comparable only to Mississippi.

The Alabama-based human rights group defines hate groups as those who follow the ideologies of the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, racist skinheads, neo-confederate, black separatist or general hate.

The two Montana groups drawing the most attention are the Montana Creativity Movement and Pioneer Little Europe.

An Aryan homeland

When April Gaede of Kalispell issued an invitation to fellow white supremacists to "come home" to this region, she heralded the merits of Montana for a Pioneer Little Europe, a concentration of white supremacists.

A Kalispell PLE unofficial goodwill ambassador, as she has called herself, Gaede has posted job listings and housing options, recreation offerings and anecdotes crafted to draw more people like herself to the Flathead.

Gaede moved to Montana from California because too many Latinos had changed the nature of her neighborhood, she said on a white-pride Internet forum.

Chief among the attractions of Kalispell is its overwhelmingly white demographics, she said.

"Over 20 years ago some of the first White Nationalist pioneers started moving to this area. The numbers are not clear but we are slowly but surely gaining ground," she announced.

McAdam said PLE is "doing as much as they can to promote an idea that goes across white supremacist borders," offering the region as a home not just for members of a particular organization but saying anyone who agrees white people are superior should come colonize the area.

"It's basically the newest version of a longtime commitment by the white supremacists to create an Aryan homeland," McAdam said.

Racial holy war

In the 1970s, white supremacists envisioned taking over the Pacific Northwest.

"Obviously that didn't work too well," McAdam said.

So the group is thinking smaller, now.

"It's based more on the community level this time," he said.

The Montana Creativity Movement stems from the Church of the Creator, founded in 1973 by Florida legislator and electric can-opener inventor Ben Klassen.

"As far as an organized local group affiliated with a national group, that's the big one," McAdam said.

The group's name stems from the idea that the white person is the "most creative, productive and intelligent creature Mother Nature has produced in ... 2.3 billion years," Klassen wrote in his autobiography.

Creators shun marriage between those of different races, embrace anti-Semitism, reject Christianity and other religions (save worship of the race) and take as their motto "RaHoWa" (racial holy war).

Klassen killed himself in 1993, and his cause was taken up by Matt Hale, who titled himself Pontifex Maximus (high priest) of the renamed World Church of the Creator. The organization became the neo-Nazi group with the most chapters, with 88 by 2002. However, the group came into the spotlight after a former "Creator of the Year" went on a rampage, killing two and wounding nine in Illinois and Indiana. Hale was convicted of soliciting the murder of the judge who ruled against him in a copyright dispute over the group's name.

In 2009, the Montana Creativity Movement began spreading literature and since then has held a few, small rallies.

The group made headlines again when 2009 Creator of the Year, Allen Michael Goff of Billings, was charged with felony assault with a weapon after allegedly shooting a Hispanic teen in the leg. The 17-year-old was acquitted by a jury and sentenced to six months probation and fined $150 for a misdemeanor charge of carrying a concealed weapon.

Last month, Goff pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor count of obstruction and was sentenced to 40 days in jail, with credit for the more than 40 days served after his arrest for threatening a Native American man with a gun.

Great Falls is not a hot spot for white supremacist groups, and police have reported no problems with illegal white supremacist activities.

Home to Malmstrom Air Force Base, the Electric City is the most racially diverse of Montana's three largest cities, yet — because the state has seven reservations — Great Falls is slightly less diverse than the state as a whole, 89.96 percent white compared with 87.8 percent statewide.

Billings and Kalispell,the two cities with the biggest racist scenes, are 88.8 percent and 95.8 percent white respectively.

The 2010 federal census reported Great Falls is 5 percent Native American, or 2,942 residents; 3.4 percent Hispanic, or 1,978 people; 1 percent black, or 617 people; and .8 percent Asian, or 520 people. The city also had 76 Native Hawaiians, and 365 people who said they were of a single "other" race last year.

"Politically, you look at an area like the Flathead, and it's traditionally conservative. Billings is more intriguing because there's more diversity in the community," McAdam said. "Great Falls can count itself lucky it hasn't had these kinds of organized groups on a consistent basis to deal with."

On the other hand, Great Falls gained national attention when a former Ku Klux Klan organizer announced he would run as a candidate for Montana's seat in the U.S. House.

John Abarr, a hotel night auditor who said he is still on the KKK mailing list but not an organizer, is running as a Republican and told The Associated Press he has been motivated by the election of President Obama.

Abarr has written fliers encouraging the deportation of homosexuals and Jewish Americans to create an ethnically pure "Realm of Montana."

In 2002, during Abarr's bid for the state legislator, Cascade County and state Republican officials roundly denounced his candidacy.

Abarr is an example of the potential for racist ideas to be repackaged and go "from the margins to the mainstream," McAdam said.

So is the Rev. Chuck Baldwin, McAdam said. The Florida transplant to the Flathead has been a Constitution Party presidential candidate, an advocate of militia movements and involved with the Council of Conservative Citizens, which the Southern Poverty Law Center characterizes as a hate group.

"There are some individual activists pretty interested in politics and how you use politics as a way to mainstream your message and line up behind candidates to gain credibility," McAdam said. "Most are much more interested in trying to create communities that look the way they want, all white all the time."

Part of the repackaging is for groups to present themselves as heritage groups.

"These are not the people who organize the St. Patrick's Day parade in Butte," McAdam said. "It's fine to be proud of your heritage, but these groups believe if you're not white — and their definition of white varies — you shouldn't be allowed to participate, that you aren't equal, you shouldn't exist and you shouldn't have the same rights."

The forces driving a surge in Montana racist groups are the same as those playing out across the country, McAdam said.

"You had this perfect storm over the last two years of a bad economic condition, people losing their jobs, their homes and a lot of fear and anger," he said. "You have an African-American president and all these different factors that if just one was happening it would be good for the white supremacists."

White supremacists have an easy answer for problems like why people are losing homes — the Jewish banks. To people upset about the 2008 election of Barack Obama, they say the country has a "subhuman illegitimately in the office."

Regarding issues of immigration, the mainstream debate has been divisive, too.

"It's a great environment for white supremacists to repackage their message and wedge themselves into some of the mainstream debates going on right now," McAdam said.

Their answer to the issues that trouble our era envisions a society that's not safe for anyone outside an exclusive set, McAdam said.

"Minorities, whether of color or Jewish, gay or lesbian become the likely target. We believe communities function best when everyone feels safe, where everyone feels they can participate. White supremacist groups fundamentally don't believe that," he said. "They think white people are the only people who matter"

By the time a group like Montana Creativity excludes Christians — a "sick and morbid religion" according to their organizational statements — and anyone without northern European heritage, "that's going to be a small number of people," McAdam said.

Klassen in "The White Man's Bible" spelled out a scale of whiteness, with black people at the bottom as "barely human, but more correctly subhuman or humanoid," white people as the "very top pinnacle" and "mud races" categorized between the two.

"One of the beliefs Creators have is RaHoWa, racial holy war where creators believe there will be a worldwide ethnic cleansing that will leave only white people with everything on the planet," McAdam said. "As a forth generation Montanan, I don't believe white supremacist beliefs are the same as Montana values. It comes down to all of us deciding how we want our communities to function."

Entire article and pics:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20110814/NEWS01/108140302/-1/NLETTER01/The-state-of-hate--Some-see-Montana-as-last-best-place-for-the-white-race?source=nletter-news
 

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Oldtimer said:
I thought the white supremacy nutcase movement in the state was pretty well gone with the dismantling of the Aryan Nations, Neo Nazis, Posse Comitatus, Freemen, etc. etc over the years...

But with the arrival of the Tea Party I saw much of the same rhetoric being spouted- and some of the same folks now cloaking themselves as Teabaggers.... Now it looks like they are importing themselves and their groups to the state.. :mad:
Positive thing is its nice to see our part of the state has maintained its sanity and has no chapters.... :)

The state of hate: Some see Montana as last best place for the white race

4:16 AM, Aug. 14, 2011 | 34Comments
These photographs were entered as state's evidence during the trial of Billings teenager Allen Michael Goff, photo at right, following the nonfatal shooting of a Hispanic male. The images center around Goff's involvement in the Montana Creativity Movement, one of the most energetic race-focused groups in Montana. PHOTOS COURTESY OF YELLOWSTONE COUNTY



A new flag with an old message is flying in Montana.

Montana Creativity Movement members bear as their standard a banner marked with a W for the white race. The W is topped by a crown symbolizing elite status and with a halo representing the sacredness of the race they worship.

They count chapters in Billings, Laurel, Lockwood, Miles City, Bozeman, Butte, Helena, Missoula, Park City and Shepherd.

"We are your neighbors, your best friend, your co-workers, etc.," organizer Westin Adams said. "The only difference is we are loyal to our racial family."

The MCM has members and supporters in northcentral Montana and plans to use those links to establish chapters here next year.

They are the people with the "most energy on the ground" among a rising number of white supremacist groups in the state, said Travis McAdam, executive director of the Montana Human Rights Network.

"In Montana it's been an interesting couple of years, as far as a real growth in white supremacists on the ground actually doing stuff in communities," he said.

"We've had Creators in Montana pretty much as long as we've been around," McAdam said. "During the 1990s, they were mostly focused on Western Montana. This time around it's mostly focused out of Billings, and it's a much younger group of activists."

In white supremacist circles, Montana has taken on mythological status as a potential part of an Aryan homeland.

Thirteen hate groups are active across the state, from Miles City to Kalispell, in Billings, Lewistown, Missoula, Helena and Bozeman.


Across the country, the number of hate groups is increasing as well. For the first time since the Southern Poverty Law Center began tracking hate groups in the 1980s, the number of American hate groups has topped 1,000.

The biggest growth came in anti-government organizations, which gained 300 new groups for a 60 percent gain.

Throughout the Northwest, 54 active hate groups were identified, with 15 in Oregon and 13 each in Washington, Idaho and Montana, giving the Treasure State a hate group concentration per million people comparable only to Mississippi.

The Alabama-based human rights group defines hate groups as those who follow the ideologies of the Ku Klux Klan, neo-Nazis, white nationalists, racist skinheads, neo-confederate, black separatist or general hate.

The two Montana groups drawing the most attention are the Montana Creativity Movement and Pioneer Little Europe.

An Aryan homeland

When April Gaede of Kalispell issued an invitation to fellow white supremacists to "come home" to this region, she heralded the merits of Montana for a Pioneer Little Europe, a concentration of white supremacists.

A Kalispell PLE unofficial goodwill ambassador, as she has called herself, Gaede has posted job listings and housing options, recreation offerings and anecdotes crafted to draw more people like herself to the Flathead.

Gaede moved to Montana from California because too many Latinos had changed the nature of her neighborhood, she said on a white-pride Internet forum.

Chief among the attractions of Kalispell is its overwhelmingly white demographics, she said.

"Over 20 years ago some of the first White Nationalist pioneers started moving to this area. The numbers are not clear but we are slowly but surely gaining ground," she announced.

McAdam said PLE is "doing as much as they can to promote an idea that goes across white supremacist borders," offering the region as a home not just for members of a particular organization but saying anyone who agrees white people are superior should come colonize the area.

"It's basically the newest version of a longtime commitment by the white supremacists to create an Aryan homeland," McAdam said.

Racial holy war

In the 1970s, white supremacists envisioned taking over the Pacific Northwest.

"Obviously that didn't work too well," McAdam said.

So the group is thinking smaller, now.

"It's based more on the community level this time," he said.

The Montana Creativity Movement stems from the Church of the Creator, founded in 1973 by Florida legislator and electric can-opener inventor Ben Klassen.

"As far as an organized local group affiliated with a national group, that's the big one," McAdam said.

The group's name stems from the idea that the white person is the "most creative, productive and intelligent creature Mother Nature has produced in ... 2.3 billion years," Klassen wrote in his autobiography.

Creators shun marriage between those of different races, embrace anti-Semitism, reject Christianity and other religions (save worship of the race) and take as their motto "RaHoWa" (racial holy war).

Klassen killed himself in 1993, and his cause was taken up by Matt Hale, who titled himself Pontifex Maximus (high priest) of the renamed World Church of the Creator. The organization became the neo-Nazi group with the most chapters, with 88 by 2002. However, the group came into the spotlight after a former "Creator of the Year" went on a rampage, killing two and wounding nine in Illinois and Indiana. Hale was convicted of soliciting the murder of the judge who ruled against him in a copyright dispute over the group's name.

In 2009, the Montana Creativity Movement began spreading literature and since then has held a few, small rallies.

The group made headlines again when 2009 Creator of the Year, Allen Michael Goff of Billings, was charged with felony assault with a weapon after allegedly shooting a Hispanic teen in the leg. The 17-year-old was acquitted by a jury and sentenced to six months probation and fined $150 for a misdemeanor charge of carrying a concealed weapon.

Last month, Goff pleaded no contest to a misdemeanor count of obstruction and was sentenced to 40 days in jail, with credit for the more than 40 days served after his arrest for threatening a Native American man with a gun.

Great Falls is not a hot spot for white supremacist groups, and police have reported no problems with illegal white supremacist activities.

Home to Malmstrom Air Force Base, the Electric City is the most racially diverse of Montana's three largest cities, yet — because the state has seven reservations — Great Falls is slightly less diverse than the state as a whole, 89.96 percent white compared with 87.8 percent statewide.

Billings and Kalispell,the two cities with the biggest racist scenes, are 88.8 percent and 95.8 percent white respectively.

The 2010 federal census reported Great Falls is 5 percent Native American, or 2,942 residents; 3.4 percent Hispanic, or 1,978 people; 1 percent black, or 617 people; and .8 percent Asian, or 520 people. The city also had 76 Native Hawaiians, and 365 people who said they were of a single "other" race last year.

"Politically, you look at an area like the Flathead, and it's traditionally conservative. Billings is more intriguing because there's more diversity in the community," McAdam said. "Great Falls can count itself lucky it hasn't had these kinds of organized groups on a consistent basis to deal with."

On the other hand, Great Falls gained national attention when a former Ku Klux Klan organizer announced he would run as a candidate for Montana's seat in the U.S. House.

John Abarr, a hotel night auditor who said he is still on the KKK mailing list but not an organizer, is running as a Republican and told The Associated Press he has been motivated by the election of President Obama.

Abarr has written fliers encouraging the deportation of homosexuals and Jewish Americans to create an ethnically pure "Realm of Montana."

In 2002, during Abarr's bid for the state legislator, Cascade County and state Republican officials roundly denounced his candidacy.

Abarr is an example of the potential for racist ideas to be repackaged and go "from the margins to the mainstream," McAdam said.

So is the Rev. Chuck Baldwin, McAdam said. The Florida transplant to the Flathead has been a Constitution Party presidential candidate, an advocate of militia movements and involved with the Council of Conservative Citizens, which the Southern Poverty Law Center characterizes as a hate group.

"There are some individual activists pretty interested in politics and how you use politics as a way to mainstream your message and line up behind candidates to gain credibility," McAdam said. "Most are much more interested in trying to create communities that look the way they want, all white all the time."

Part of the repackaging is for groups to present themselves as heritage groups.

"These are not the people who organize the St. Patrick's Day parade in Butte," McAdam said. "It's fine to be proud of your heritage, but these groups believe if you're not white — and their definition of white varies — you shouldn't be allowed to participate, that you aren't equal, you shouldn't exist and you shouldn't have the same rights."

The forces driving a surge in Montana racist groups are the same as those playing out across the country, McAdam said.

"You had this perfect storm over the last two years of a bad economic condition, people losing their jobs, their homes and a lot of fear and anger," he said. "You have an African-American president and all these different factors that if just one was happening it would be good for the white supremacists."

White supremacists have an easy answer for problems like why people are losing homes — the Jewish banks. To people upset about the 2008 election of Barack Obama, they say the country has a "subhuman illegitimately in the office."

Regarding issues of immigration, the mainstream debate has been divisive, too.

"It's a great environment for white supremacists to repackage their message and wedge themselves into some of the mainstream debates going on right now," McAdam said.

Their answer to the issues that trouble our era envisions a society that's not safe for anyone outside an exclusive set, McAdam said.

"Minorities, whether of color or Jewish, gay or lesbian become the likely target. We believe communities function best when everyone feels safe, where everyone feels they can participate. White supremacist groups fundamentally don't believe that," he said. "They think white people are the only people who matter"

By the time a group like Montana Creativity excludes Christians — a "sick and morbid religion" according to their organizational statements — and anyone without northern European heritage, "that's going to be a small number of people," McAdam said.

Klassen in "The White Man's Bible" spelled out a scale of whiteness, with black people at the bottom as "barely human, but more correctly subhuman or humanoid," white people as the "very top pinnacle" and "mud races" categorized between the two.

"One of the beliefs Creators have is RaHoWa, racial holy war where creators believe there will be a worldwide ethnic cleansing that will leave only white people with everything on the planet," McAdam said. "As a forth generation Montanan, I don't believe white supremacist beliefs are the same as Montana values. It comes down to all of us deciding how we want our communities to function."

Entire article and pics:

http://www.greatfallstribune.com/article/20110814/NEWS01/108140302/-1/NLETTER01/The-state-of-hate--Some-see-Montana-as-last-best-place-for-the-white-race?source=nletter-news

PIG you never change in your childish attacks do you
 

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"They're Back"???????????????????????????????????

Actually they never went anywhere. People of all colors/groups/denominations look at their own race as being superior and that they should be dominate. Not all, but predominately.

This is the way the world has always been and it always will be. Even when you melt the races together they will separate into culture divisions.

Get used to it. The Good Lord put different skin colors in different areas for a reason.

The big phenomenon down here is how blacks are re-segregating themselves after Billions of Dollars were spent on de-segregating them. :roll:

It's the different cultures that don't mesh, not merely the skin colors.

Larry, it's not that he is childish, yet he is, it's that he is ignorant in the ways of the world in his own little world that he has never out of. :roll:
 
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"They're Back"???????????????????????????????????

Actually they never went anywhere. People of all colors/groups/denominations look at their own race as being superior and that they should be dominate. Not all, but predominately.

This is the way the world has always been and it always will be. Even when you melt the races together they will separate into culture divisions.

Get used to it. The Good Lord put different skin colors in different areas for a reason.

The big phenomenon down here is how blacks are re-segregating themselves after Billions of Dollars were spent on de-segregating them. :roll:

It's the different cultures that don't mesh, not merely the skin colors.

Larry, it's not that he is childish, yet he is, it's that he is ignorant in the ways of the world in his own little world that he has never out of. :roll:

Mike why does it not surprise me that you would be the one to try and rationalize this as a way to support these type whackjobs and their actions ... :???: :wink: :lol:
 
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Look out Oldtimer, mikey will probably be moving up to Montana soon.

Yep--Luckily he wouldn't fit in at all in my area where its still mostly made up of multi-generation Montanans- where you're judged on who you are, and what you can do, not the color of your skin-- but he would fit in up the Yak or in the Bitterroot valley where all the foreigners and whackos are flocking to....
And Luckily both are about 400 miles away... :)
 

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Luckily he wouldn't fit in at all in my area where its still mostly made up of multi-generation Montanans

How many of those multi-generational families are on welfare, there illegaly or otherwise just a drain on society?

It's real easy to point fingers and tell others how they should live when you dont actually have to deal with the problems.

It's kind of like the wolf issue. People from somewhere else making rules and not having to actually live with the consequences.
 
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Luckily he wouldn't fit in at all in my area where its still mostly made up of multi-generation Montanans

How many of those multi-generational families are on welfare, there illegaly or otherwise just a drain on society?

It's real easy to point fingers and tell others how they should live when you dont actually have to deal with the problems.

It's kind of like the wolf issue. People from somewhere else making rules and not having to actually live with the consequences.

Well tumbleweed I think this sums it up...

"One of the beliefs Creators have is RaHoWa, racial holy war where creators believe there will be a worldwide ethnic cleansing that will leave only white people with everything on the planet," McAdam said. "As a forth generation Montanan, I don't believe white supremacist beliefs are the same as Montana values. It comes down to all of us deciding how we want our communities to function."

If the community didn't let the problem develop- it wouldn't be there...
 

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Ive never heard of the "Creators" before nor many of the other groups that are out there. Also, I believe some of the groups are just flat out nuts and looking for a fight of any kind.

As far as ethnic cleansing goes, it sounds to me like the flash mobs chanting 'Kill Whitey" are the ones trying to start a race war. Why are the libs worried about some obscure fringe group "Starting" a race war rather than devote their disdain to the group who has already "StartED" a race war?

Is it possible that political correctness and entitlement has anything to do with the problems some demographic groups face? Because it sounds to me like if some of these "kids" got their allowence taken away and went to bed hungry they may learn how to behave in public and be productive citizens.
 

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Big problem with your assessment- where did it say anything about tea party in the article. I didn't waste a lot of time reading as I assumed from the title and first couple paragraphs, your attempt to tie them together was off base. So I just searched for tea- and low and behold, nothing came up but what you wrote yourself.

Did I miss it in the article?

However, I was thinking about searching for racist encounters and law enforcement (especially liberal areas like California)- how do you think I will do?
 

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One thing about it, if Mike moved to Montana he would increase the sane inhabitants by one thus effectively cancelling out oldtimers vote! :D :D :D :D

And I think i will move to S.D. doing the same thing to bull humpers vote :roll:
Of course from, what I hear no one listens to him anyway, or wants to associate with him! The shame of it all!!! :wink: :wink: :wink: :wink:

plus ya'all notice every time oldtimer 's zipper goes down, here comes the humper to try and protect :D :D :D :D :D

Way to go HUMPER
 
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Big problem with your assessment- where did it say anything about tea party in the article. I didn't waste a lot of time reading as I assumed from the title and first couple paragraphs, your attempt to tie them together was off base. So I just searched for tea- and low and behold, nothing came up but what you wrote yourself.

Did I miss it in the article?

okfarmer- if you followed the Montana Tea Party in the state news you would know that many of these same folks connected to the startup pf some of the MT Tea Party groups have or have had connections/membership with the old White Supremacy groups...I've posted several of these articles over the last year or two...

The one which upset many of the saner old generation Montanans is when one Tea Party group had a hangmans noose hanging from their promotional booth...
 

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Ok oldtimer where is the link to your last accusation????

Or are you once again spouting your hate for common sense. show every one where any one had a hanging noose?? or if you cant slink off the the hole you live in :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

cant figure out if you are the bagger or the dipper eh?? oh vey oldtimer
 

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Here is a democratic congressman making inappropriate remarks:

Congressperson Charles Rangel- in response to Barack and Michelle Obama’s recent social visit to New York, “Make sure he doesn’t run around East Harlem unidentified.” (ny1.com, May 30)

That is one of your leaders- I have the proof. Where is yours?
 

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Oldtimer said:
okfarmer said:
Big problem with your assessment- where did it say anything about tea party in the article. I didn't waste a lot of time reading as I assumed from the title and first couple paragraphs, your attempt to tie them together was off base. So I just searched for tea- and low and behold, nothing came up but what you wrote yourself.

Did I miss it in the article?

okfarmer- if you followed the Montana Tea Party in the state news you would know that many of these same folks connected to the startup pf some of the MT Tea Party groups have or have had connections/membership with the old White Supremacy groups...I've posted several of these articles over the last year or two...

The one which upset many of the saner old generation Montanans is when one Tea Party group had a hangmans noose hanging from their promotional booth...

Many is a word to describe numerous individuals. It would only make sense that it should be easy to tie several of all these "many" people to hate groups. Show me some percentages and then show me where the data came from. I'm game for your little games.

I'll even help you a little.

http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/128025-west-says-racism-allegations-against-tea-party-by-liberals-didnt-work

Florida's first black Republican congressman since Reconstruction credited the Tea Party with standing up against allegations of racism from the left in supporting his successful candidacy.

“So I think that the — the liberal progressives saw the strength of the grassroots movement that we call the Tea Party, which stands for 'taxed enough already' and they tried to turn against it,” Rep.-elect Allen West (R-Fla.) said Friday on Fox News's "Hannity."

“And the No.1 thing that you always try to do to silence an opponent in the United States of America is to call someone a racist.”

Another historic election took place in South Carolina, where Rep.-Elect Tim Scott also became the first black Republican congressman from his state since Reconstruction.

There are two. Now your turn.

Oh, and where again in the article did it mention Tea Party? Didn't think so.... whacko.
 

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Oldtimer said:
The one which upset many of the saner old generation Montanans is when one Tea Party group had a hangmans noose hanging from their promotional booth...


disgruntled voters have used nooses to express their anger with Government for years. What evidence do you have that it was done in any attempt to advocate "white supremacy"?


 

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Oldtimer said:
Bullhauler said:
Look out Oldtimer, mikey will probably be moving up to Montana soon.

Yep--Luckily he wouldn't fit in at all in my area where its still mostly made up of multi-generation Montanans- where you're judged on who you are, and what you can do, not the color of your skin-- but he would fit in up the Yak or in the Bitterroot valley where all the foreigners and whackos are flocking to....
And Luckily both are about 400 miles away... :)

I wouldn't want to fit in an area with a fatazz lazy socialist. Not my words. One of your neighbors.... :lol:
 

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Definition of Irony:

A hate filled bigot, that hates a group of people so badly, that he will resort to lies to try and discredit them, by falsly trying to link them to hate groups. :shock: :?

That one just topped the charts on my Irony meter!
 

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Methuselah just gets dumber & dumber every day. He's probably at the point now where he actually BELIEVES the lies and feces he spews on here..... :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

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