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Mike

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Russia & Putin redraws Russian border map while Buckwheat unveils NCAA Basketball Tournament brackets.............

What's wrong with this picture? :roll:
 

Steve

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about the same as this picture..

Russia,.. National Geographic to Update World Map With Russian Crimea.

MOSCOW, March 19 (RIA Novosti) – Experts at the Washington-based National Geographic Society have announced plans to redraw the world map to show Crimea as part of Russia after the Ukrainian breakaway region’s reunification with Moscow is finalized.

The US magazine’s editorial, legal and cartographic leadership met Tuesday to discuss how to map Crimea’s political status, shortly after Russian President Vladimir Putin and Crimea’s leaders signed a treaty on Russia absorbing the Black Sea peninsula.

National Geographic cartographers have agreed to temporarily indicate Crimea on maps as Ukrainian territory with a shading to indicate a special status, similar to how the contested territories of the Gaza Strip and the West Bank are shown.

But following the ratification of the reunification treaty by the Russian parliament the organization plans to include the region as part of Russia, Valdes said.

I hope obama and Biden get the first two copies.. :mad:
 
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Anonymous

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Andy Borowitz

McCain Offers to Lead Ragtag Band of Soldiers in Raid on Kremlin

This is the reason McCain is not in that office today- and does not have his finger on the button... Is the Repub warhawks song now BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB RUSSIA?

So what is the answer?

Do we invade Russia? Or send over a couple of nukes?

I hear a lot of folks talking big- but haven't heard any specific answers...
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Oldtimer said:
Andy Borowitz

McCain Offers to Lead Ragtag Band of Soldiers in Raid on Kremlin

This is the reason McCain is not in that office today- and does not have his finger on the button... Is the Repub warhawks song now BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB, BOMB RUSSIA?

So what is the answer?

Do we invade Russia? Or send over a couple of nukes?

I hear a lot of folks talking big- but haven't heard any specific answers...

If the Obama admin had continued to pursue bringing in the Ukraine into NATO like GW had started I don't think Putin would have considered this power play.
 

Mike

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Maybe Buckwheat picking the top 4 seeds in the NCAA Tourney to be in the "Final 4" will impress Putin so much he will withdraw from Crimea & Ukraine, throw his hands up and back off like the USSR did with Reagan?

It's not what a U.S. President should do, it's what any other foreign power might "PERCEIVE" him to do.

Bluffs have been played out in foreign policy many, many times.

But when you have a Pres. that everyone knows won't call a "Bluff", you're in deep chit. We have one of those............................

:lol:

If McCain was Pres. and had warned Putin that he was sending battle groups to the Ukraine to engage if necessary, Putin would believe him. For sure.

Get the drift? :roll:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Mike said:
Maybe Buckwheat picking the top 4 seeds in the NCAA Tourney to be in the "Final 4" will impress Putin so much he will withdraw from Crimea & Ukraine, throw his hands up and back off like the USSR did with Reagan?

It's not what a U.S. President should do, it's what any other foreign power might "PERCEIVE" him to do.

Bluffs have been played out in foreign policy many, many times.

But when you have a Pres. that everyone knows won't call a "Bluff", you're in deep chit. We have one of those............................

:lol:

If McCain was Pres. and had warned Putin that he was sending battle groups to the Ukraine to engage if necessary, Putin would believe him. For sure.

Get the drift? :roll:

You would think with all his years in Law enforcement that he would have figured out that the sight of the police car with lights on top along the hiway slows many more cars then one sitting in front of the beer parlor. :?
 

Mike

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Maybe Buckwheat picking the top 4 seeds in the NCAA Tourney to be in the "Final 4" will impress Putin so much he will withdraw from Crimea & Ukraine, throw his hands up and back off like the USSR did with Reagan?

It's not what a U.S. President should do, it's what any other foreign power might "PERCEIVE" him to do.

Bluffs have been played out in foreign policy many, many times.

But when you have a Pres. that everyone knows won't call a "Bluff", you're in deep chit. We have one of those............................

:lol:

If McCain was Pres. and had warned Putin that he was sending battle groups to the Ukraine to engage if necessary, Putin would believe him. For sure.

Get the drift? :roll:

You would think with all his years in Law enforcement that he would have figured out that the sight of the police car with lights on top along the hiway slows many more cars then one sitting in front of the beer parlor. :?
Actually no, I don't think he could figure that out. :lol:

But it's a GREAT analogy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Big Muddy rancher

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Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Maybe Buckwheat picking the top 4 seeds in the NCAA Tourney to be in the "Final 4" will impress Putin so much he will withdraw from Crimea & Ukraine, throw his hands up and back off like the USSR did with Reagan?

It's not what a U.S. President should do, it's what any other foreign power might "PERCEIVE" him to do.

Bluffs have been played out in foreign policy many, many times.

But when you have a Pres. that everyone knows won't call a "Bluff", you're in deep chit. We have one of those............................

:lol:

If McCain was Pres. and had warned Putin that he was sending battle groups to the Ukraine to engage if necessary, Putin would believe him. For sure.

Get the drift? :roll:

You would think with all his years in Law enforcement that he would have figured out that the sight of the police car with lights on top along the hiway slows many more cars then one sitting in front of the beer parlor. :?
Actually no, I don't think he could figure that out. :lol:

But it's a GREAT analogy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Actually no, I don't think he could figure that out.

:oops: :oops: Ya sometimes I get ahead of myself. :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
You would think with all his years in Law enforcement that he would have figured out that the sight of the police car with lights on top along the hiway slows many more cars then one sitting in front of the beer parlor. :?
Actually no, I don't think he could figure that out. :lol:

But it's a GREAT analogy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

"Actually no, I don't think he could figure that out.

:oops: :oops: Ya sometimes I get ahead of myself. :lol: :lol:

Ahead of yourself and him. :lol: :lol:
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
I hear a lot of folks talking big- but haven't heard any specific answers...

so you weren't impressed by Obama and Kerry's speeches either?




at this point obama, kerry and biden have no credibility left..

it is like threatening to spank the child ,.. over and over again , to the point the child doesn't even look up when you scold him... so now you have two choices.. accept the bad behavior or spank the little brat...

early on a few small almost gentle smacks would have gotten the child's attention.. and he would listen when you talked..


so where does that leave US today.. we can either tolerate Putin and the world's bad guys doing as they please,.. or we can give them a good behind the woodshed spanking..



my guess expect more whining from cupcake kerry.. while Putin picks out more countries to play with..
 
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Anonymous

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Big Muddy rancher said:
Mike said:
Maybe Buckwheat picking the top 4 seeds in the NCAA Tourney to be in the "Final 4" will impress Putin so much he will withdraw from Crimea & Ukraine, throw his hands up and back off like the USSR did with Reagan?

It's not what a U.S. President should do, it's what any other foreign power might "PERCEIVE" him to do.

Bluffs have been played out in foreign policy many, many times.

But when you have a Pres. that everyone knows won't call a "Bluff", you're in deep chit. We have one of those............................

:lol:

If McCain was Pres. and had warned Putin that he was sending battle groups to the Ukraine to engage if necessary, Putin would believe him. For sure.

Get the drift? :roll:

You would think with all his years in Law enforcement that he would have figured out that the sight of the police car with lights on top along the hiway slows many more cars then one sitting in front of the beer parlor. :?

But all the lights on top of cars along the highways doesn't slow all the violators down...
What do you do when they call your bluff- invade? Bomb Russia?... Go back to the MAD policy - MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION ?...

I believe most people are sick and tired of our sticking our noses into other countries civil wars- from Vietnam thru the Iran–Contra scandal, the Balkans, Iraq, Syria, Libya, etc. etc. ....
We need to quit being the policemen of the world... We have enough problems within our own country and continent... Let Europe handle Europe's problems....

So what do you recommend we do if Putin doesn't take a bluff and says F--- You? If you're going to play hardball- you have to be willing to accept the consequences...
 

Steve

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OldTimer said:
I believe most people are sick and tired of our sticking our noses into other countries civil wars-

I am not sure how you missed it.. but so far obama and crew have stuck their noses in about every conflict going on now..

Obama couldn't figure out a way to leave Iraq in better shape so he just left.. (same thing is now happening in Afghanistan.. )


they were training and coordinating the arab spring..

they meddled in Syria.. and now the Ukraine...

they have their little fingers in there poking and prodding.. but when **** hit the fan .. they go to a fundraiser and another round of golf..

Obama has made this one very unsafe world..

here is the short list of countries that are now considered unstable / fragile.. or already failed..

Tunisia

Algeria

Jordan

Egypt

Yemen

Somalia

Sudan

Iraq

Libya

Syria

Ukraine

yep,.. you should be proud of the guy you voted for .. sure can start a good war and then just walks away ...
 
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Steve said:
OldTimer said:
I believe most people are sick and tired of our sticking our noses into other countries civil wars-

I am not sure how you missed it.. but so far obama and crew have stuck their noses in about every conflict going on now..

Obama couldn't figure out a way to leave Iraq in better shape so he just left.. (same thing is now happening in Afghanistan.. )


they were training and coordinating the arab spring..

they meddled in Syria.. and now the Ukraine...

they have their little fingers in there poking and prodding.. but when s*** hit the fan .. they go to a fundraiser and another round of golf..

Obama has made this one very unsafe world..

here is the short list of countries that are now considered unstable / fragile.. or already failed..

Tunisia

Algeria

Jordan

Egypt

Yemen

Somalia

Sudan

Iraq

Libya

Syria

Ukraine

yep,.. you should be proud of the guy you voted for .. sure can start a good war and then just walks away ...

Yep- that's the reason in 2008 I could not continue to support Bush's and his followers support of the invasion of Iraq (which gave us the Iranian problem) or a candidate that thought it was funny to run around singing BOMB, BOMB, BOMB songs....I had hoped Obama would keep more at home- altho I have to give him some credit for working to get out of both Iraq and Afghanistan- two wars that are again unwinnable... But he also keeps sticking our nose in every two bit countries civil war...

So the candidate I chose in 2012 was the only one running on a nonintervention, put the US and US citizen first policy-- Gary Johnson...


Foreign Policy

In his campaign for the Libertarian Party nomination, he stated he opposed foreign wars and pledged to cut the military budget by 43 percent in his first term as president. He would cut the military's overseas bases, uniformed and civilian personnel, research and development, intelligence, and nuclear weapons programs. He has stated his opposition to US involvement in the War in Afghanistan and opposed the US involvement in the Libyan Civil War. He has stated that he does not believe Iran is a military threat, would use his presidential power to prevent Israel from attacking Iran, and would not follow Israel, or any other ally, into a war that it had initiated.

Maintaining a strong national defense is the most basic of the federal government’s responsibilities. However, building schools, roads, and hospitals in other countries are not among those basic obligations. Yet that is exactly what we have been doing for much of the past 10 years.



Given trillion-dollar deficits, America simply cannot afford to be engaged in foreign policy programs that are not clearly protecting U.S. interests. There is nation-building and rebuilding to be done right here at home.



Our military should remain the most potent force for good on Earth. To do this, we should resort to military action as the last option and only as provided in the Constitution.


Bring the Troops Home

AMERICAN MILITARY ACTIVITIES IN AFGHANISTAN SHOULD END, our troops returned home, and the focus of our foreign policy reoriented toward the protection of U.S. citizens and interests.

With Osama bin Laden now killed and after 10 years of fighting, U.S. forces should leave Afghanistan's challenges to the Afghan people.
Decades after the collapse of the Soviet Union, American troops remain scattered throughout Europe. It is time to reevaluate these deployments.
The U.S. must make better use of strategic alliances which allow greater sharing of the human and financial burdens at less cost of protecting national interests.
 

hopalong

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And Gary won right?? OH wait he was just a spoiler one of those candidates out to ruin a real candidate from winning.. Just saying that idiots like you who vote for the Gary Johnsons of this world ar totally clueless no matter what the issues are.. why even bother to vote oldtimer???????? :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
 

Tam

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Obama needs to stop threatening he is going to DO SOMETHING and when the aggressor makes his move, he runs and hides on a golf course or is on TV making up his Basketball brackets :mad: . If you are going to give a RED LINE then BACK THE DAMN THING UP. It you have no support for threatening a RED LINE ACTION then SHUT THE HELL UP. AND PLEASE TAKE YOUR JOB SERIOUSLY ENOUGH TO STOP THE STUPID CRAP THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH NATIONAL AND WORLD SECURITY. :mad:

What is encouraging these sickos is the fact they now know Obama will DO NOTHING BUT TALK. :mad:

If anyone thinks Iran is going to give up their nukes now that Obama and Kerry have given them the funding to finish their long held dream of being a Nuclear Power they are STUPID.

If anyone thinks Putin is going to stop at Crimea after Obama's threatened punishment was sanctions on 11 Russians and Kerry told Putin their punishment of those 11 Russians was NOTHING PERSONAL TARGETED TOWARDS HIM. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE IN ANOTHER US ELECTION as the World can not afford any more of your stupid dangerous low information voting. :mad:

The next time you want to MAKE HISTORY do everyone a favor either find a smart Democrat to vote for which might be impossible OR STAY HOME.
 

Mike

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Because Buckwheat has been such a wimp with Putin, Estonia is next followed by several other little ex-Soviet countries. Write it down.

This would not have happened under McCain because it wouldn't have been nearly this easy.

You're a fool OT. A BIG fool.
 
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Anonymous

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None of you yet have told me what you would do if you sent in tanks, ships and troops to the area and started waving sabers -- and Putin doesn't back down and just says F--- You...

What do you do when they call your bluff- invade Crimea ? Bomb Russia?... Go back to the MAD policy - MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION ?...

I think keep our nose out of it- and go along with any trade restrictions Europe goes with (useless if we put them on and everyone else doesn't) - and let the Russian oligarch's that actually pull Putins puppet strings handle it when its starts pulling at their pursestrings...
 

loomixguy

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A vote for Gary Johnson was in fact a vote for Obama. Voting for someone with 0% chance of winning was taking away a vote for Romney, the candidate who stood the best chance of stopping the madness.

Bet Old 'Bagger drew lots of red lines as a LEO....but had to back down due to the fact he would've had to got out of the patrol car....LMAO! Reminds me of Barney Fife & Ernest T. Bass!
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
None of you yet have told me what you would do if you sent in tanks, ships and troops to the area and started waving sabers -- and Putin doesn't back down and just says F--- You...

What do you do when they call your bluff- invade Crimea ? Bomb Russia?... Go back to the MAD policy - MUTUALLY ASSURED DESTRUCTION ?...

I think keep our nose out of it- and go along with any trade restrictions Europe goes with (useless if we put them on and everyone else doesn't) - and let the Russian oligarch's that actually pull Putins puppet strings handle it when its starts pulling at their pursestrings...


Oh Oldtimer Obama's Russia crippling actions was to put restrictions on 11 Russian's visa access. That will teach Putin. :roll:

OH and Obama sent Biden to Poland to promise fighter jets, I guess Obama was to busy making out his College Basketball Brackets to go himself so he sent the Gaffe master Joe to do make the announcement. With Obama's history of backing his Administrations word I doubt anyone is holding their breathe in actually seeing those jets, but think of it this way when Obama doesn't send them, he can take to the air waves and tell everyone HE DID NOT KNOW JOE PROMISED FIGHTER JETS. :roll:

This is what you get for voting for an INCOMPETENT JUNIOR SENATOR Oldtimer.

BTW there is only one person prouder of your Obama vote than you are Oldtimer and that is Jimmy Carter as he is no longer seen as the worst US President. :roll:
 
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