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fff

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A president is elected by the people of this country. During the campaign, he presents a program, his view of where this country should be headed. (Well, Obama is doing that; McCain is mostly bashing Obama and kissing up to Bush.) He's elected and has several weeks to get together a cabinet and get briefed on world situations. Then the world watches the swearing in ceremony and sees the US, again, peacefully pass the reins of command from one man to another. We've done it for over 200 years.

Voters don't elect a vice president. When a president goes down (for whatever reason) the world watches with bated breath. In this country, the stock market falls, financial institutions hesitate. In the rest of the world our allies wonder if this country will be able to stand by promises made and our enemies go on alert for an opportunity to take advantage of any weakness.

The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down. Joe Biden can do that. He may not have great speaking skills, he may not represent change, but he's a proven, reliable, known factor in Washington, DC and around the world. On the other hand, McCain (71 years old, several bouts with cancer) has chosen a VP with no national, much less international, experience. One who is under investigation by her own state! This says a lot about his judgment and who puts "Country First" in this election.
 

Sandhusker

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fff said:
A president is elected by the people of this country. During the campaign, he presents a program, his view of where this country should be headed. (Well, Obama is doing that; McCain is mostly bashing Obama and kissing up to Bush.) He's elected and has several weeks to get together a cabinet and get briefed on world situations. Then the world watches the swearing in ceremony and sees the US, again, peacefully pass the reins of command from one man to another. We've done it for over 200 years.

Voters don't elect a vice president. When a president goes down (for whatever reason) the world watches with bated breath. In this country, the stock market falls, financial institutions hesitate. In the rest of the world our allies wonder if this country will be able to stand by promises made and our enemies go on alert for an opportunity to take advantage of any weakness.

The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down. Joe Biden can do that. He may not have great speaking skills, he may not represent change, but he's a proven, reliable, known factor in Washington, DC and around the world. On the other hand, McCain (71 years old, several bouts with cancer) has chosen a VP with no national, much less international, experience. One who is under investigation by her own state! This says a lot about his judgment and who puts "Country First" in this election.

It says a lot a about a party who chooses a president with no national, much less international, experience. Who the heck are you to point fingers?
 

Larrry

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name a back up (vice president)

It is ironic that the rep backup is ten times the person that the socialists put in their front line.

If he is the best they can do what does that say about the rest of the socialists.
 

RobertMac

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This election is turning out much better than I ever thought it would. The far left, extremist socialist are not only going to destroy the Democrat party, but also their strongest ally, the drive-by media, which is obvious to everyone, is in the tank for Democrats. It is becoming clear to middle America that Liberals and the mainstream, drive-by media live by a double standard!!!!
 

fff

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Comparing electing a president to electing a VP is simply spin on your part. If the voters don't like Obama they won't elect him president. That's very simple. We turned to LBJ when Kennedy was killed. Reagan had George HW Bush to back him up when he was shot. Both LBJ and GHWB had years of national and international experience. They knew where the buttons for running the country were located. Obama has chosen someone who can keep the wheels on the track if he can't serve as president. McCain chose someone that he hopes can get him elected.

It's pretty obvious which one puts their country before their political career. And it ain't John McSame. :mad:
 

Larrry

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LBJ couldn't have dumped pizz out of a boot with the instructions on the heel. The only one probably worse than him was Peanut boy
 

RobertMac

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fff said:
Comparing electing a president to electing a VP is simply spin on your part. If the voters don't like Obama they won't elect him president. That's very simple. We turned to LBJ when Kennedy was killed. Reagan had George HW Bush to back him up when he was shot. Both LBJ and GHWB had years of national and international experience. They knew where the buttons for running the country were located. Obama has chosen someone who can keep the wheels on the track if he can't serve as president. McCain chose someone that he hopes can get him elected.

It's pretty obvious which one puts their country before their political career. And it ain't John McSame. :mad:
SandHusker said:
It says a lot a about a party who chooses a president with no national, much less international, experience. Who the heck are you to point fingers?
:lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

VanC

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fff said:
The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down.

I take it you're worried about Palin's qualifications. When asked about Obama's qualifications, you gave us this, and nothing more:


Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Well, I looked it up and, by golly, the constitutional qualifications for president and vice-president are EXACTLY the same. Imagine that!! So I guess you can rest easy now. :lol: :lol:
 

fff

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VanC said:
fff said:
The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down.

I take it you're worried about Palin's qualifications. When asked about Obama's qualifications, you gave us this, and nothing more:


Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Well, I looked it up and, by golly, the constitutional qualifications for president and vice-president are EXACTLY the same. Imagine that!! So I guess you can rest easy now. :lol: :lol:

Well, we haven't seen her birth certificate, have we? She may not even be a natural born citizen for all I know. Do you know? Have you seen a birth certificate? It was a big deal with Obama, why not Gov Palin? Oh, right, he's black. he has to PROVE stuff. Palin is a white woman, we just take her word, right? :lol:

She meets the Constitutional requirements. You probably do too and I do. Do you think you're ready to take over the government of the United States? Do you think Sara Palin is ready to face off with Russia or China? Do you think financial markets, Wall Street, will be confident of her abilities if she has to step into the Oval Office next year? McCain doesn't give a rip about whether she's prepared or not. He thinks she can win votes and to hell with the country if he drops dead next year. This is a bad choice for the country and it speaks volumns about John McCain. (BTW, you did know he was a POW?)
 

RobertMac

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fff said:
VanC said:
fff said:
The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down.

I take it you're worried about Palin's qualifications. When asked about Obama's qualifications, you gave us this, and nothing more:


Age and Citizenship requirements - US Constitution, Article II, Section 1

No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty-five years, and been fourteen years a resident within the United States.

Well, I looked it up and, by golly, the constitutional qualifications for president and vice-president are EXACTLY the same. Imagine that!! So I guess you can rest easy now. :lol: :lol:

Well, we haven't seen her birth certificate, have we? She may not even be a natural born citizen for all I know. Do you know? Have you seen a birth certificate? It was a big deal with Obama, why not Gov Palin? Oh, right, he's black. he has to PROVE stuff. Palin is a white woman, we just take her word, right? :lol:

She meets the Constitutional requirements. You probably do too and I do. Do you think you're ready to take over the government of the United States? Do you think Sara Palin is ready to face off with Russia or China? Do you think financial markets, Wall Street, will be confident of her abilities if she has to step into the Oval Office next year? McCain doesn't give a rip about whether she's prepared or not. He thinks she can win votes and to hell with the country if he drops dead next year. This is a bad choice for the country and it speaks volumns about John McCain. (BTW, you did know he was a POW?)
Good to see you have conceded the election!!!!!! :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2: :lol2:
 

Sandhusker

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Frankie blathered, "She meets the Constitutional requirements. You probably do too and I do. Do you think you're ready to take over the government of the United States? Do you think Sara Palin is ready to face off with Russia or China? Do you think financial markets, Wall Street, will be confident of her abilities if she has to step into the Oval Office next year? McCain doesn't give a rip about whether she's prepared or not. He thinks she can win votes and to hell with the country if he drops dead next year. This is a bad choice for the country and it speaks volumns about John McCain. (BTW, you did know he was a POW?)"

We KNOW Obama isn't ready to face the Russians. He failed that test when he sided with Russia and blamed Georgia!

The libs are the ones who apparently don't give a rip about this country or your nomination would be based on experience and accomplishments, not equal opportunity. The fact that you can't get a lib in a conversation about Obama's qualifications, accomplishments, or even on issues where he actually cast a vote other than "present" is pathetic and reveals the ankle-deep intellect of the left.
 
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Anonymous

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Actually there are 17 sitting Republican Governors with more experience than Palin who all qualify to be V.P....Only Ahrrrrnold doesn't....

Is Palin the Best Qualified Potential Veep?
For the first half of this year, whenever John McCain was asked what qualities he would look for in a potential Vice President he always said he wanted the most qualified person in the country to be available for the presidency should the need arise. This is without a doubt a very strong answer and he was often praised for putting the country ahead of political expediency. Now that his choice is known, some people (although not McCain personally) have added it is executive experience that counts, something that neither Barack Obama nor Joe Biden has any of.


Taking executive experience as the benchmark, who might he have chosen? The obvious pool is sitting Republican governors, of whom there are 22, one of whom (Arnold Schwarzenegger) is ineligible because he is foreign born. An interesting question is then how does Sarah Palin rank in executive experience compared to the 21 eligible Republican governors. The answer is given in the table below: she ranks 17th. If executive experience were indeed the criterion McCain really valued most, then Gov. John Hoeven (R-ND) or Gov. Rick Perry (R-TX) would have been the top choices, with 2819 and 2813 days of experience as governor, respectively. If he insisted that the job be given to a woman, then Gov. Linda Lingle (R-HI) comes in next.

http://www.electoral-vote.com/
 

aplusmnt

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fff said:
Obama has chosen someone who can keep the wheels on the track if he can't serve as president.

It's pretty obvious which one puts their country before their political career. And it ain't John McSame. :mad:

I guess all you have to wish for is Obama to be come unable to serve and then the Democrats may have someone able to serve as President? :shock:

If McCain putting Palin on the ticket makes you mad, how does your Democrats putting Obama on your ticket make you feel? :?
 

fff

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Sandhusker said:
fff said:
A president is elected by the people of this country. During the campaign, he presents a program, his view of where this country should be headed. (Well, Obama is doing that; McCain is mostly bashing Obama and kissing up to Bush.) He's elected and has several weeks to get together a cabinet and get briefed on world situations. Then the world watches the swearing in ceremony and sees the US, again, peacefully pass the reins of command from one man to another. We've done it for over 200 years.

Voters don't elect a vice president. When a president goes down (for whatever reason) the world watches with bated breath. In this country, the stock market falls, financial institutions hesitate. In the rest of the world our allies wonder if this country will be able to stand by promises made and our enemies go on alert for an opportunity to take advantage of any weakness.

The very first responsiblity for a presidential candidate is to name a back up (vice president) who can reassure the American people, our allies, and our enemies, that we are in capable hands in a crises where the president goes down. Joe Biden can do that. He may not have great speaking skills, he may not represent change, but he's a proven, reliable, known factor in Washington, DC and around the world. On the other hand, McCain (71 years old, several bouts with cancer) has chosen a VP with no national, much less international, experience. One who is under investigation by her own state! This says a lot about his judgment and who puts "Country First" in this election.

It says a lot a about a party who chooses a president with no national, much less international, experience. Who the heck are you to point fingers?

I'm a voter. I'm a tax payer. I have the right to point fingers all I want. I will speak out about how badly the conservative Republicans have damaged my country.

As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Obama has visited many spots around the world vital to U.S. interests including Russia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Israel among others. His most high profile trip was an August 2006 visit to Africa where he brought his family to his father's birthplace in Kenya.

Foreign Policy Positions:
Senator Obama opposed the war in Iraq. He advocates a regional conference involving Syria and Iran as one part of an ultimate Iraq solution. He partnered with GOP Senator Richard Lugar in efforts to fight proliferation of nuclear weapons. Obama has also spoken out on the importance of energy independence and the need for U.S. leadership in dealing with global climate change. He seeks significant changes in U.S.-Cuba policy.

Not enough for you? Don't vote for him. Doesn't change the FACT that John McSame chose a woman who doesn't even know what the vice president does, has had one trip outside the US (to Kuwait, not Iraq),has never sat on the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has probably never even met the head of a foreign country, thinks the founding fathers wrote the Pledge of Allegiance, and likely couldn't find Syria, Iran or Israel on a map! For that matter, John McCain hasn't been all that impressive with his knowledge/experience. He tried to tell us that going to a market in Iraq was as safe as going to a market in the US, ignoring the fact that he was surrounded by the US military. Joe Libermann had to tell him about Sunnis and Shiites! He refers to the "Iraq/Pakistan border", he still references "Chezlovakia" though there hasn't been any such country in years. IMO, he's not mentally or physically able to handle the job as President. But that's a choice for the voters. Their choice of VP tells me a lot about the candidate.
 

Larrry

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As a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Senator Obama has visited many spots around the world vital to U.S. interests including Russia, Kuwait, Iraq, and Israel among others. His most high profile trip was an August 2006 visit to Africa where he brought his family to his father's birthplace in Kenya.

Foreign Policy Positions:
Senator Obama opposed the war in Iraq. He advocates a regional conference involving Syria and Iran as one part of an ultimate Iraq solution. He partnered with GOP Senator Richard Lugar in efforts to fight proliferation of nuclear weapons. Obama has also spoken out on the importance of energy independence and the need for U.S. leadership in dealing with global climate change. He seeks significant changes in U.S.-Cuba policy.


You can't be serious. Do you realize how stupid your answer is. Probably not


Obamas experience:
He visited, he advocates, he opposes, he has spoken, he seeks,he partnered for efforts.. Heck even ot's drunk friends could say the same thing.
 

fff

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Sandhusker said:
I asked for "experience".

Just like Hillary said, "Obama has a speech he gave in 2004".

Nobody running has "experience" being president. Hillary was the closest and she didn't make the final cut. :(

I listed Obama's federal government experience. You don't think it's enough, don't vote for him. But don't ignore the FACT that he chose a respected, experienced man to keep the country on track if Obama can't serve. Since Biden doesn't necessarily re-enforce Obama's popular message of "Change", IMO, that says he puts the country above his political ambitions. And McCain pandered to the conservative base of the Republican Party to get their votes. Obviously he's more interested in votes than the security of this country.

I think Obama would win if you want "foreign experience" since he actually lived in a foreign country for a while. But I know you're not going to be satisfied with anything. You just want to rant and tell everyone how tough and special you are. :roll:
 

Mike

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Their choice of VP tells me a lot about the candidate.

Your choice of VP a few years ago (Lieberman) tells us a whole lot about your party. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Did you like the hatchet job he did on Obama last night? :lol: :lol:
 
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