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Just watched a grizzley hunt on TV-of course the danger was played up etc. Well they shot one at 620 yards on a mountainside. While that is incredible marksmanship it's reducing a great game animal to a target and is definately not dangerous. I think the ultralong range stuff is fine for varmints but it doesn't do much for me on big game. While I've never shot a grizzley I know how much fun it is to get up close with big black bear-shooting one at 3/8 of a mile doesn't trip my trigger.