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Time to pull the troops out.

aplusmnt

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I think I have been presuaded that it is time to pull the troops out of Iraq!...........................................................No Kolan you did not persuade me :lol:

If the Politicians will not let the troops fight to win the war, then I am tired of it and just as well see them come home. Yes they will have to go back again in a few years but maybe by the idiots in Washington will allow the boys to win.

War is a nasty thing and if our soldiers are going to risk their lives they should be able to get down and dirty with the enemy. If the enemy hold up in a Mosque then an air strike should be called in and the mosque destroyed with maybe half the town.

If People harbour terrorist in their homes, the city block should be leveled.

They should pass a no gun law for Iraq, and anyone caught with a gun should be considered an enemy and shot before they can draw their weapon. All this you must be fired upon first crap is for the birds.

I doubt our soldiers in WWII waited when they saw a Jap for him to fire first. Examples of what worked in WWII should be followed. And yes there might be citizen casualties but they are not innocent by any means. They allowed their country to go down the road it went, they did not clean house themselves and they have to accept the consequences of guilt by association. In WWII many civilians died when we bombed Japan, as well as the fire bombs in Europe. But they were not innocent either, they had to accept that they allowed their countries to become what they became.

I say maybe a couple million Iraqi's need to die in next few months. Or our soldiers need to come home. I say bomb them and shoot anyone that so much as looks at a soldier with a bad expression. If they throw a rock at one of our tanks, then turn it on their home and blow it to nothing with them in it.

It is time to get nasty and get some crap done. And if the Washington wusses will not let our brave soldiers fight then take them out of harms way! Let the get a rest until one of the Sheet heads nuke LA, Washington or NYC. Then they can go back over and level the Middle east.

And first place I would target when we go back is all the Mosque and holly places. I say level any building that has anything to do Islam and make no apologizes for it.

I am so tired of the crap coming out of Washington from the Liberals and the so called Conservatives!

If I could go back in time 17 years I would have never had children! I feel so bad for bringing them into the world they will have to encounter over the next 50 years. As much as I would like to have grandchildren I hope none of them have kids.

OK enough radical rant, I am sleep deprived and need to get to bed :(
 

kolanuraven

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FINALLY...you're beginning to see the light!!! You don't have to give me credit.....but ya know I've nudged you along the way. :wink: :wink:

I've always said here, and been made fun of...that we need to seal up Iraq TIGHT....let'em hash it out...then talk with whomever walks out of the dust be they Islamic or not.

Let'em settle the problem between themselves by themselves.

!! En shallah!

Welcome over to the Correct side there A PLUS!!!!!!
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
FINALLY...you're beginning to see the light!!! You don't have to give me credit.....but ya know I've nudged you along the way. :wink: :wink:

I've always said here, and been made fun of...that we need to seal up Iraq TIGHT....let'em hash it out...then talk with whomever walks out of the dust be they Islamic or not.

Let'em settle the problem between themselves by themselves.

!! En shallah!

Welcome over to the Correct side there A PLUS!!!!!!

The difference in me and you is that you want them pulled out no matter what, my first plan is for US to shoot them all bomb the mosque, shoot any man, woman or child caught with a gun. Bomb the towns that are harbouring the enemy even if women and children die in the process.

The ONLY reason I say bring them home, is because the politicians will not let them fight and kill the enemy like a real war. If the politicians would let them fight then I say stay and kill some more, but since the politicians do not want to let them defend themselves then lets bring them home.
 

jigs

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perhaps, just pull out one brigade, turn them loose on the Capitol and then the politicians will not be a factor anymore.


it is sick to see people stand on the House floor and berate our military, to speak treasonous, and to out right curse the job the military is doing.

untie their hands and turn them loose !!! it will be over rather quickly.

tell them any means to win, with the exception of a nuke......

if you are gonna fight a war, then damn it, fight it!
 

aplusmnt

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jigs said:
if you are gonna fight a war, then damn it, fight it!

Thats my point!

My great grandpa fought in WWI and my Grandpa fought in WWII, them men and their leaders knew how to fight a war. I asked my grandpa once about what they did with Japanese prisoners, he said what prisoners?, If you took a Prisoner then you had to share your food with him, and food was pretty short at times.

I doubt many soldiers in WWII worried about rather the Japs or Germans fired first. I doubt they worried about what buildings they were held up in. And I don't think they worried a bunch about rather they would have to face criminal charges back home because congress was making the war political.

My Grandpa's fought for the freedom and very existence of this country and they fought to win! I do not think the Libs realize how much our soldiers today are also fighting for this same existence! The Libs do not realize how dangerous the spreading of Radical Muslims is!

How it is just as dangerous as Nazism was back in the 40,s.
 

MoGal

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I totally agree Aplus......... go in flatten it and then get out of there.

The sad part is that Americans now do not know what it is like to have war on their own soil and it will happen someday.

Dad was in Korea and he says MacArthur wanted to flatten North Korea and the US wouldn't let him. Now look 50 years later, they are raising their ugly head again.

Best bumper sticker I saw was out in CA read .... "Big terrorists breed little terrorists... kill em all.

Hopefully someday we'll get all the politicians voted out that aren't representing their constituents.
 
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Anonymous

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Aplus-- I think this is the reason many folks have lost faith in the Iraqui situation- me included... I won't even call it a "war"anymore especially after I found out that US troops have to check out the ID cards to find out first which Iraqui political party they belong before they can decide if they can detain, arrest, or shoot them.... :roll: :( :mad:


Thing has transcribed over into another Vietnam situation-where the person that openly supports you in the daylight is trying to kill you after dark- and then is given a "get out of jail card" because of their political/tribal connections...

Any type of political micro-management doesn't work in wars....Especilly when the rules of engagement all favor the bad guys....
 

andybob

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I was under the impression it had ceased to be a war, and is now a 'policing action' so when do the police take over?
The British army had the same problem in Northern Ireland, they were not allowed to shoot anyone running their roadblocks, could be prosecuted for shooting someone in crossfire etc, if you use troops, then martial law must prevail if it is policing, then put in police.
 

kolanuraven

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Oh...how soon you forget....remember that BIG BANNER that screamed

" MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"........according to The Decider in Chief...he decided the war was over long ago.


So what da'hell is this mess called now?????


I'm glad to see that so many of you have now "turned the corner" with the rest of us to see what we've been saying for YEARS!!!!

You don't have to admit it....you can say that you've been against it all along....we'll not point fingers!
 

MN Farm Girl

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If King Richard would have had his way during the crusades we wouldn't have the problems with the fricken, shite, and muslims. His plan was to wipe out the muslims. He marched into this one town and killed 7,000 of them. I don't know why this goverenment hasn't discovered by now that we need to be out of Iraq. If the UN would keep there nose out of things we would have been out of there. :mad: Look at all the wars we didn't win because of the UN. :mad:


MN Farm Girl
 

Cal

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kolanuraven said:
FINALLY...you're beginning to see the light!!! You don't have to give me credit.....but ya know I've nudged you along the way. :wink: :wink:

I've always said here, and been made fun of...that we need to seal up Iraq TIGHT....let'em hash it out...then talk with whomever walks out of the dust be they Islamic or not.

Let'em settle the problem between themselves by themselves.

!! En shallah!

Welcome over to the Correct side there A PLUS!!!!!!
Yeah, those Iranian backed terrorists won't want us dead anymore and will be just giddy to start a dialogue. :roll: Problem solved.
 

aplusmnt

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kolanuraven said:
Oh...how soon you forget....remember that BIG BANNER that screamed

" MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"........according to The Decider in Chief...he decided the war was over long ago.


So what da'hell is this mess called now?????


I'm glad to see that so many of you have now "turned the corner" with the rest of us to see what we've been saying for YEARS!!!!

You don't have to admit it....you can say that you've been against it all along....we'll not point fingers!

I will give you credit for my thoughts, it is Libs like you that tie the hands of the troops and do not allow they to fight a war to win.

To make sure I make my point clear, I do not think we should pull out of Iraq I think we should start blowing the place up and killing anyone that blinks when we tell them to jump! But if the Liberal idiots in Washington will not allow our soldiers to do that then we might as well bring them home and wait til them Radical Muslims do something like 911 again and then the Libs will agree to fight at least until the next election.

Since Libs are spineless maybe we should just attack and retreat and then repeat. We could attack on non election years and then retreat election years. Since they can not hold to their convictions.
 

kolanuraven

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aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Oh...how soon you forget....remember that BIG BANNER that screamed

" MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"........according to The Decider in Chief...he decided the war was over long ago.


So what da'hell is this mess called now?????


I'm glad to see that so many of you have now "turned the corner" with the rest of us to see what we've been saying for YEARS!!!!

You don't have to admit it....you can say that you've been against it all along....we'll not point fingers!

I will give you credit for my thoughts, it is Libs like you that tie the hands of the troops and do not allow they to fight a war to win.

To make sure I make my point clear, I do not think we should pull out of Iraq Well then QUIT using leading titles then if you're not happy with the responses

I think we should start blowing the place up and killing anyone that blinks when we tell them to jump! But if the Liberal idiots in Washington will not allow our soldiers to do that then we might as well bring them home and wait til them Radical Muslims do something like 911 again and then the Libs will agree to fight at least until the next election.

Since Libs are spineless maybe we should just attack and retreat and then repeat. We could attack on non election years and then retreat election years. Since they can not hold to their convictions.


I never said tie the handsof our troops....re read earlier post here. You reps get in a rut and with blinders and won't take in anything else.

I said to surround them ( Iraq) and them fight it out themselves. Who are we to settle a fight that began in the 600's between 2 sects that we have NO connection to??? Let'em fight cause that's what they seem to want to do anyway...so give it to them BUT.....BUT.... take our kids out of the target range![/b][/i]
 

aplusmnt

Well-known member
kolanuraven said:
aplusmnt said:
kolanuraven said:
Oh...how soon you forget....remember that BIG BANNER that screamed

" MISSION ACCOMPLISHED"........according to The Decider in Chief...he decided the war was over long ago.


So what da'hell is this mess called now?????


I'm glad to see that so many of you have now "turned the corner" with the rest of us to see what we've been saying for YEARS!!!!

You don't have to admit it....you can say that you've been against it all along....we'll not point fingers!

I will give you credit for my thoughts, it is Libs like you that tie the hands of the troops and do not allow they to fight a war to win.

To make sure I make my point clear, I do not think we should pull out of Iraq Well then QUIT using leading titles then if you're not happy with the responses

I think we should start blowing the place up and killing anyone that blinks when we tell them to jump! But if the Liberal idiots in Washington will not allow our soldiers to do that then we might as well bring them home and wait til them Radical Muslims do something like 911 again and then the Libs will agree to fight at least until the next election.

Since Libs are spineless maybe we should just attack and retreat and then repeat. We could attack on non election years and then retreat election years. Since they can not hold to their convictions.


I never said tie the handsof our troops....re read earlier post here. You reps get in a rut and with blinders and won't take in anything else.

I said to surround them ( Iraq) and them fight it out themselves. Who are we to settle a fight that began in the 600's between 2 sects that we have NO connection to??? Let'em fight cause that's what they seem to want to do anyway...so give it to them BUT.....BUT.... take our kids out of the target range![/b][/i]

I guess where we differ is I believe to pull the troops back circle them as the two sects begin fighting, we KILL them ALL both sides!
 
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