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CattleArmy

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Miss California keeping title ... for now
1 hr 8 mins ago
BEVERLY HILLS, Calif. – Officials of the Miss California USA pageant strongly criticized some of the actions of titleholder Carrie Prejean on Monday but said it's not their decision whether she should be stripped of her crown.

Co-executive directors Keith Lewis and Shanna Moakler told a press conference that only Miss USA pageant owner Donald Trump can make that decision. He plans to hold a press conference at 11 a.m. Tuesday in New York City.

The officials said Prejean has been "unavailable" and so in the meantime they have appointed the state pageant's runner-up, Tami Farrell, as a "Beauty of California Ambassador" to fulfill any duties the winner normally would handle.

Lewis said that if Trump allows Prejean to retain her crown, state pageant officials would welcome her back and encourage her to take part in her normal duties.

"We're still going to be able to fulfill our duties no matter if Mr. Trump offers a second chance or utters his famous line from `The Apprentice,'" Lewis said (meaning, of course, "You're fired").

Prejean, 21, of San Diego, created controversy during the Miss USA pageant when she answered a judge's question by saying she believes marriage should only be between a man and a woman.

The state pageant has been investigating whether she violated her contract by making public appearances with groups opposed to same-sex marriage. Prejean also failed to reveal that she posed in her underwear as a teenager.

Moakler said Prejean's failure to reveal the photo to organizers shows she entered the pageant under false pretenses.

"For us the severity of nudity in the one photo that Carrie Prejean has admitted was hers is not the issue. The fact that she entered the pageant and admitted it, is," Moakler said.

Moakler said that women entering the pageant are given documents that require full disclosure, but they do not say that any disclosure will make the person ineligible.

Rather, she said, the documents say the entrant should disclose things so officials can evaluate them.

"Our system is about empowering women to be the best they can be," she said.

Lewis said the state pageant has never criticized Prejean for her beliefs, but he added that Miss California USA must represent everyone in the state.

Lewis said the appointment of Farrell wasn't meant to be punitive or retaliatory against Prejean. Lewis and Moakler are officials of K2 Productions, which independently produces the state pageant under license. Lewis emphasized they were not speaking on behalf of the Miss USA or Miss Universe pageants.

In the meantime, blogs raised questions about whether a double standard existed as stories surfaced about topless pictures of Alysha S. Castonguay, now Miss Rhode Island USA. She was a New England Patriots cheerleaders when she posed for Maxim last year.

The 22-year-old Castonguay, who has said she told pageant officials about the pictures, apparently is in no danger of being dethroned.

On CBS' "The Early Show," Castonguay defended Prejean, saying Prejean's comments on gay marriage are the main issue, not her photos.
 

CattleArmy

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In my opinion she gave an opinion in which she was asked for and in the end her opinion and it disagreeing with what some think is what made her news.
 

hypocritexposer

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I'm sure other "Miss"'s are sticking up for her "semi-nude" photos. Miss Rhode Island was in Maxim magazine, showing more skin than MissCA.

She was targeted for her beliefs, much the same as the Gay marriage movement has done in CA.

It's a misdirection campaign to scare those against Gay marriage into silence.

Yet Miss Rhode Island thinks the core of the debate is over Miss California’s views, not her photos. Alysha tells press:

“I personally believe this situation is stemming from the controversy over her opinion and not a photo.”
 

Texan

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Why would they have a gay man judging girls, anyway? It looks like CattleArmy would have been a much better choice for a judge for a girl's beauty contest.
 

CattleArmy

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Texan said:
Why would they have a gay man judging girls, anyway? It looks like CattleArmy would have been a much better choice for a judge for a girl's beauty contest.


You are right because I know if I ask for an opinion that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :D

Now you can just BITE ME!
 

hypocritexposer

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I don't think many guys do watch fashion shows, so who's idea of the "ideal woman" are they portraying, and who is buying into it?

Why are women trying to be what a gay fashion designer has said is the ideal image? How does he know what real men want?

Duh, maybe it's because gay fashion designers have controlled the image of the female body for the past 40 years so that the ideal female now is a 6'3" Slav with broad shoulders, no breasts, no hips, weighing 110 lbs
 

backhoeboogie

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hypocritexposer said:
I don't think many guys do watch fashion shows, so who's idea of the "ideal woman" are they portraying, and who is buying into it?

I don't. Wash and wear women who smile have always been appealing to me.
 

hopalong

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CattleArmy said:
Texan said:
Why would they have a gay man judging girls, anyway? It looks like CattleArmy would have been a much better choice for a judge for a girl's beauty contest.


You are right because I know if I ask for an opinion that everyone is entitled to their own opinion. :D

Now you can just BITE ME!

Say what?
That would be confusing even to your gay friends! Real men don't want biters!!!!
But then Real men want real women not a wanna be from PMS NE.
 

hypocritexposer

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Real men want women that can think for themselves, and not be directed on their "ideal image" by liberal gay men.

Anybody that can embrace their individual rights and freedoms are sexy to me.

Those that are lead by "political correctness" and liberal thinking can follow whomever they like, but they are not independent or confident enough to be individually sexy.
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
Real men want women that can think for themselves, and not be directed on their "ideal image" by liberal gay men.

Anybody that can embrace their individual rights and freedoms are sexy to me.

Those that are lead by "political correctness" and liberal thinking can follow whomever they like, but they are not independent or confident enough to be individually sexy.

Women with any kind of pride...any kind of sense of self...would never let a "Perez Hilton" dictate their sexuality. Doesn't matter that he's gay...doesn't matter that he's liberal. He's a kook...a hilarious one...but a kook none the less. The fact that you people are giving him his 15 minutes does not speak well. Go find something important to carry on about.

Alice
 

hopalong

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alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
Real men want women that can think for themselves, and not be directed on their "ideal image" by liberal gay men.

Anybody that can embrace their individual rights and freedoms are sexy to me.

Those that are lead by "political correctness" and liberal thinking can follow whomever they like, but they are not independent or confident enough to be individually sexy.

Women with any kind of pride...any kind of sense of self...would never let a "Perez Hilton" dictate their sexuality. Doesn't matter that he's gay...doesn't matter that he's liberal. He's a kook...a hilarious one...but a kook none the less. The fact that you people are giving him his 15 minutes does not speak well. Go find something important to carry on about.

Alice


BAHHHHWAAAAAAAAAA!!!
You wanna cry about his 15 minutes of fame?

Looks as if he has been in the spotlight since the yr 2000 so the comment YOU people are giveing him 15 minuts of fame is another one of your unresearched comments!

Maybe it is YOU people that make random comments that have no basis that need to be chastized
 
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