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Today's history lesson, Germany

hypocritexposer

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Why did Hitler come to power?
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The story of why Hitler came to power is about the reasons why the German people lost their senses and allowed a vicious madman to come to power. What could have brought this about?





All the following were present from the 1920s:

1. Long-term bitterness
Deep anger about the First World War and the Treaty of Versailles created an underlying bitterness to which Hitler’s viciousness and expansionism appealed, so they gave him support.

2. Ineffective Constitution
Weaknesses in the Constitution crippled the government. In fact, there were many people in Germany who wanted a return to dictatorship. When the crisis came in 1929–1933 – there was no one who was prepared or able to fight to stop Hitler.

3. Money
The financial support of wealthy businessmen gave Hitler the money to run his propaganda and election campaigns.

4. Propaganda
Nazi propaganda persuaded the German masses to believe that the Jews were to blame and that Hitler was their last hope.

5. Programme
Hitler promised everybody something, so they supported him.

6. Attacks on other parties
The Stormtroopers attacked Jews and people who opposed Hitler. Many opponents kept quiet simply because they were scared of being murdered – and, if they were, the judges simply let the Stormtroopers go free (see point 2).

7. Personal Qualities
Hitler was a brilliant speaker, and his eyes had a peculiar power over people. He was a good organiser and politician. He was a driven, unstable man, who believed that he had been called by God to become dictator of Germany and rule the world. This kept him going when other people might have given up. His self-belief persuaded people to believe in him.
 

hypocritexposer

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Badaxe, question for you.

Can you have socialist social values and fascist business values at the same time?

You know where every one in a society is average, but big business is co- owned between government and... I don't know, let's say banks?
 

Mike

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badaxemoo said:
Let's not forget another factor: The National Socialist Party's anti-communist hysteria.

But the Nazi's did stress the perceived failures of Capitalism and Democracy.
 

Silver

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The whole world was questioning capitalism at the time. Some people gave up on it entirely. Tens of thousands of Americans emigrated to Russia in the '30s for that reason (with disasterous results I might add).
The time and place was ripe for Adolf.
 

Sandhusker

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badaxemoo said:
Let's not forget another factor: The National Socialist Party's anti-communist hysteria.

Since you didn't try to refute any of the points in the article, I take it that you accept them?
 

Clarencen

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We souldn't overlook the fact that sometime after World War I, germany had ultra high inflation. In order to payy off their war debt, Germany issued vast amounts of paper money. It is almost unbelievable how this devalued the mark. It was said that at first money cold be carried from bank to bank in a sachel, Then it needed to be carried by truck. The value of all products became unreal. A farmer might have been able to pay off his mortgage with just one load of potatoes.

Then all of the old marks were turned in and the new mark re-valued, it took an awful lot of the old marks to to equal a new one, again the amount was almost unbelievable. With an economy like that how could anyone have much confidence in their government.
 

hypocritexposer

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The teenager who exposed Auschwitz
Apr. 20, 2009
RAFAEL MEDOFF , THE JERUSALEM POST

This month marks the 65th anniversary of a daring escape from Auschwitz, by a teenager who then revealed the truth about the death camp - only to be ignored by the Allied leadership.

In March 1944, the Germans occupied Hungary and began preparing to deport that country's Jews - numbering approximately 750,0000 - to Auschwitz. A 19-year-old prisoner named Rudolf Vrba, together with fellow-inmate Alfred Wetzler, decided to do something that almost nobody had ever done before: escape from Auschwitz. They were determined to alert the world about the doom that Hungarian Jews would soon face.

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1239710740325&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FPrinter
 

Silver

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Clarencen said:
We souldn't overlook the fact that sometime after World War I, germany had ultra high inflation. In order to payy off their war debt, Germany issued vast amounts of paper money. It is almost unbelievable how this devalued the mark. It was said that at first money cold be carried from bank to bank in a sachel, Then it needed to be carried by truck. The value of all products became unreal. A farmer might have been able to pay off his mortgage with just one load of potatoes.

Then all of the old marks were turned in and the new mark re-valued, it took an awful lot of the old marks to to equal a new one, again the amount was almost unbelievable. With an economy like that how could anyone have much confidence in their government.

We should also remember why it was they printed all that money :wink:
 

Martin Jr.

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Hatred for the Jews went back much farther. In the 1800's bismark blamed the Jews for many of Germany's problems. Bismark also didn't like Catholic's. Catholics thought they should appoint their own Bishops, while Bismark thought the Government should run the church and appoint Bishops. The Protestant's didn't mind the government interference so much.
 

Clarencen

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This is overly simplistic, still something to think about. The Jews were hated and opressed all over Europe, not just in Germany. Jews were not allowed to enter or take part in trades as were others. The Jews learned that if they had some control over money it would give them some clout. They put their money together and became bankers. The Rothchilds were Europe's bankers at one time. Maybe they still are. The Rothchilds were Jews.
 

Mike

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Clarencen said:
This is overly simplistic, still something to think about. The Jews were hated and opressed all over Europe, not just in Germany. Jews were not allowed to enter or take part in trades as were others. The Jews learned that if they had some control over money it would give them some clout. They put their money together and became bankers. The Rothchilds were Europe's bankers at one time. Maybe they still are. The Rothchilds were Jews.

Yup. As of 12/5/2007:
When the conflict with France ended (at the battle of Waterloo) the House of Rothschild was in control of British finance and was the official banker of the British Government.
...
His $50 billion dollar fortune (give or take) is virtually nothing compared to the wealth and economic power of the House of Rothschild.Baron Jacob Rothschild (who controls the Rothschild banking dynasty) is owed approximately half of the U.S. national debt (which is now some $6 trillion dollars) because the privately-owned Rothschild Bank and its proxies have a 51 percent ownership and controlling interest in the U.S. Federal Reserve System; and this $3 trillion dollar amount obviously does not even include the debt that many other nations ultimately owe to the Rothschild banking network.The interest payments alone provide the Rothschild Bank with $100 billion dollars per year.The reason that the Rothschild dynasty remains generally obscure to the public is because virtually all of their assets are privately-owned and they are very carefully protected from public scrutiny by various ways and means.It has been estimated that the House of Rothschild, directly or indirectly, controls a very substantial portion of the $35 trillion dollars in total overall spending power that exists in the world today."
 

burnt

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Mike said:
Yup. As of 12/5/2007:
When the conflict with France ended (at the battle of Waterloo) the House of Rothschild was in control of British finance and was the official banker of the British Government.
...
His $50 billion dollar fortune (give or take) is virtually nothing compared to the wealth and economic power of the House of Rothschild.Baron Jacob Rothschild (who controls the Rothschild banking dynasty) is owed approximately half of the U.S. national debt (which is now some $6 trillion dollars) because the privately-owned Rothschild Bank and its proxies have a 51 percent ownership and controlling interest in the U.S. Federal Reserve System; and this $3 trillion dollar amount obviously does not even include the debt that many other nations ultimately owe to the Rothschild banking network.The interest payments alone provide the Rothschild Bank with $100 billion dollars per year.The reason that the Rothschild dynasty remains generally obscure to the public is because virtually all of their assets are privately-owned and they are very carefully protected from public scrutiny by various ways and means.It has been estimated that the House of Rothschild, directly or indirectly, controls a very substantial portion of the $35 trillion dollars in total overall spending power that exists in the world today."

Wow. I'm a lil challenged by numbers that end in more than 3 zeros, but I think those are some pretty big figures, more than any of my family can boast!

Wow.
 
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