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CattleArmy

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http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081215/entertainment/quotes_of_the_year?printer=1


Can all of you name the papers you read? :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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reader (the Second) said:
CattleArmy said:
http://ca.news.yahoo.com/s/capress/081215/entertainment/quotes_of_the_year?printer=1


Can all of you name the papers you read? :wink:

I doubt that she reads papers because she does not have time. I would bet that she does get reports of current events and news that affect Alaska from her staff. Whether she gets broader news is debatable. If it's not germane to her job or her son's deployment or her husband's job, why would she?

Once you are Governor or a legislator -- state or Federal -- you are fed information and rushed around from meeting to meeting and media event to media event. I am sure that some politicians do read papers but many may only read clipping services or pre-digested staffer reports.

I read my news on Google but I can name the primary papers I read. However I jump around depending upon where the news took place and read a lot of international papers just for an article on a particular topic.

I bet Sandhusker can name the papers I read ;)

Huffington Post?
 
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Anonymous

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I quite reading any newspapers or magazines. I get all of the news on Ranchers.net's Bull Session.
 

VanC

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President-elect Barack Obama didn't make the list, not even for his much-criticized remark in which he said some small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion."


"To me it didn't seem like a very remarkable or very foolish quote," said Shapiro, who describes himself as a liberal Democrat. "Ultimately I decided against it, but it was a close call."

Well, gee. A liberal Democrat doesn't think demeaning millions of small town Americans is very remarkable or foolish. How shocking!! :roll:


However, a crude remark about Obama by Rev. Jesse Jackson did make the list. Jackson apologized for the comment during what he thought was a private conversation in July.

"It indicates Republicans do not have a monopoly on quotes that are deplorable," Shapiro said.

Thanks, Mr Shapiro. How fair of you. :roll:


While Obama dominated the year and produced memorable quotes, "quotes from people like Palin were more celebrated and said more about our times than anything Obama said."

This is funny. The guy is running Palin down and in the process tells us that what Obama has been saying for the past two years doesn't say much about our times. Doesn't bode well for our future, does it? Am I the only one that's aware that the reason Palin's missteps were "more celebrated" is that 90% of the media were rooting for Obama and did everything in their power to get him elected? As reader said, politicians say a lot of stupid things during a campaign. They're under a lot of pressure, they have a million things to think about, they're running around the country like chickens with their heads cut off, they're frazzled and tired, and, WHAMMO, something stupid comes out of their mouth. Especially when, as in Palin's case, they're being set up by a hostile media because they don't worship at the sacred alter of "choice". Why are the stupid things Palin or McCain said "celebrated" while the stupid things Obama, Biden, Axelrod, Reid, Pelosi, Emmanuel, etc. said are ignored? Gee, I don't know. :roll:

Think about how stupid this whole thing is, people. Some guy from Yale, with way too much free time on his hands it would seem, comes up with a silly list which turns out to be just another hit piece on Palin and Republicans, and AP picks up on it. Why? Has our country dumbed down so much that this is considered newsworthy? I guess somebody must eat this stuff up or they wouldn't print it. I feel sorry for those people.
 

VanC

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reader (the Second) said:
Yeah I have to say that I had the same reaction as you to this article.

I think if you choose the quotes you put based on how much buzz and repetition of the quote there is or upon how influential the quote is, it might be more useful. This guy's quotes made it sound very subjective and partisan.

Personally you know that I think McCain made a mistake with Palin. Lots of politicians shoot themselves in the foot with their mouths, no kidding, but bringing someone into a national campaign fresh like that, someone a bit "out there" and unusual like Palin who was not vetted was unfair to her and to the voters. I would have been more impressed with someone experienced with national campaigns and national political scene and their media blunders would have been fewer due to experience.

However all in all, the economical debacle is what lost McCain the election. And Palin despite all the jokes got amazing branding and will be back on the national scene wiser and more coached.

You're very insightful, and I agree with you about the economy being a huge factor in the election. The reasons for the bad economy are numerous and complicated, and in this case the Democrats are just as much to blame as the Republicans, but the party that holds the presidency always suffers when it tanks.

As for Palin, I've said before that I never was a big fan, at least not yet. I think she's a good person and is a woman that should make all women proud. Too bad some narrow-minded people don't see it that way. But in this election she was obviously in way over her head. What really irks me is the way so many, especially the media, piled on and wouldn't let up, even dragging her teenage daughter into it. I find that despicable. For God's sake, the election was two months ago and they're still doing it!!
 

Steve

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R2
I would have been more impressed with someone experienced with national campaigns and national political scene and their media blunders would have been fewer due to experience.

I am just a little tired of that type of person... as so far the leadership that experienced campaigners has delivered seems to be lacking on true leadership..
 

CattleArmy

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VanC said:
President-elect Barack Obama didn't make the list, not even for his much-criticized remark in which he said some small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion."


Risking the chance of being typed alive I wonder was Obama so far base in saying small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion"? Before you eat me alive read some of the posts made on this site and really think of views that are expressed here. Not to sure ole Obama was off base in saying that. Would have been smarter not to for popularity reasons, but I'm not so sure the man was wrong.
 

Steve

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CattleArmy said:
VanC said:
President-elect Barack Obama didn't make the list, not even for his much-criticized remark in which he said some small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion."


Risking the chance of being typed alive I wonder was Obama so far base in saying small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion"? Before you eat me alive read some of the posts made on this site and really think of views that are expressed here. Not to sure ole Obama was off base in saying that. Would have been smarter not to for popularity reasons, but I'm not so sure the man was wrong.

his error is in that most don't cling to guns or religion.. We just know when the gun and religious rights start getting eroded, they will soon be gone.. so we fight and defend our rights..

it seems easy to compromise, but the anti-gun atheists seem to forget that we did compromise, and they want more concessions..

I like Santa.. and Frosty.. and feel the Menorah and the Crest are fine next to the Christmas tree and Nativity.. but the sign really pissed me off..

I could agree with commonsense gun laws if they would enforce the laws already on the books.. but they just want more laws.. not even better laws, just more of the same laws that only seem to effect the law abiding and more guns banned..

Is that such a radical stand that Obama can say I cling to guns and religion?

and I am sure by the next time I post it will be a full blown argument..
 

Steve

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And that's what you all should be lobbying for, just as you should be lobbying for sex education and teen age counseling so that abortion is not even an issue because pregnancy is prevented or avoided or teen age sex is postponed...

do you really think that anything a gray haired senator does will convince a hormone controled child to keep his business to themsleves in this day and age?
 

Sandhusker

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Steve said:
R2
And that's what you all should be lobbying for, just as you should be lobbying for sex education and teen age counseling so that abortion is not even an issue because pregnancy is prevented or avoided or teen age sex is postponed...

do you really think that anything a gray haired senator does will convince a hormone controled child to keep his business to themsleves in this day and age?

The kids listen to the "Don't do it" message for a period in school one year and then they watch TV for a few hours and see not only people doing it, but gays doing it, they see sex in the movies, on the internet, etc... Society can't tell them one thing, do another, and expect the kids to do anything other than what they see.
 

CattleArmy

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Steve said:
CattleArmy said:
VanC said:
Risking the chance of being typed alive I wonder was Obama so far base in saying small-town Americans "cling to guns or religion"? Before you eat me alive read some of the posts made on this site and really think of views that are expressed here. Not to sure ole Obama was off base in saying that. Would have been smarter not to for popularity reasons, but I'm not so sure the man was wrong.

his error is in that most don't cling to guns or religion.. We just know when the gun and religious rights start getting eroded, they will soon be gone.. so we fight and defend our rights..

it seems easy to compromise, but the anti-gun atheists seem to forget that we did compromise, and they want more concessions..

I like Santa.. and Frosty.. and feel the Menorah and the Crest are fine next to the Christmas tree and Nativity.. but the sign really p****d me off..

I could agree with commonsense gun laws if they would enforce the laws already on the books.. but they just want more laws.. not even better laws, just more of the same laws that only seem to effect the law abiding and more guns banned..

Is that such a radical stand that Obama can say I cling to guns and religion?

and I am sure by the next time I post it will be a full blown argument..

Steve read the posts on the two topics here and you cannot miss the clinging.
 

CattleArmy

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Steve said:
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And that's what you all should be lobbying for, just as you should be lobbying for sex education and teen age counseling so that abortion is not even an issue because pregnancy is prevented or avoided or teen age sex is postponed...

do you really think that anything a gray haired senator does will convince a hormone controled child to keep his business to themsleves in this day and age?

Sex education is a waste of time and money it takes involved parents in my opinion to help with this epidemic to our youth.
 

CattleArmy

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Sandhusker said:
Steve said:
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And that's what you all should be lobbying for, just as you should be lobbying for sex education and teen age counseling so that abortion is not even an issue because pregnancy is prevented or avoided or teen age sex is postponed...

do you really think that anything a gray haired senator does will convince a hormone controled child to keep his business to themsleves in this day and age?

The kids listen to the "Don't do it" message for a period in school one year and then they watch TV for a few hours and see not only people doing it, but gays doing it, they see sex in the movies, on the internet, etc... Society can't tell them one thing, do another, and expect the kids to do anything other than what they see.

It takes involved informed parents and some other good role models. Actutally as bad as I hate to admit it in small town Amercia where sports are such a huge thing sometimes coaches help play a part in steering kids on the right track when it comes to both this and alcohole. Either one and no ball helps kids sometimes make better decisions. When I was in high school way back in the dark ages the coaches even inflicted curfews for players. Keep even the kids who didn't have involved parents more at home cause if a coach caught you out or heard of it no ball for the week. Now the problem is to many parents would bitch and moan it wasn't anyones business but theirs.
 
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