rammtein7 said:
Steve said:
It does not matter what he had been in trouble for in the past. Murder is murder no matter who it is.
ok.. so if charlie manson and a group of his followers are chanting death to rammtein7 and his family... and come up the stairs of the porch with a bag of skittles and cans of tea.. your going to ignore them?
really a persons history is their character.. some are good and some are bad...
and yes often in a tense situation it matters if you are a law abiding citizen or one who doesn't have a high regard for the laws...
What's your point? That argument is completely random nonsensical. Trayvon was walking home to watch the NBA and give his younger brother some skittles. He wan't chanting "death to Zimmerman." If he hadn't harassed Trayvon, none of this would have happened. The blame lies on Zimmerman and Zimmerman alone. If anyone acted in self-defense, it was Trayvon.
the point of my 'argument was to show how ridicules your argument that character doesn't matter was.
It does not matter what he had been in trouble for in the past
It does matter what he had been in trouble for in the past,... character matters.. a persons' history matters,.. that and by your inability to answer shows you know it does.. other wise why would it matter if it was Manson or Travon?
if their past history
didn't matter then it would be just two people engaging in suspicious behavior.. and you could ignore both..
if you take a persons past actions way then there is no difference ..
and since we can't ignore mansons actions,.. in the past,.. how can we ignore Travon's?
it matters how Travon reacted to a harmless situation...
he was walking in a "gated" community"
he was wandering about in the rain in a gated community.. with his hand on his trouser front.. (holdin up his saggy's or keepin his hand on his weapon)..
when an SUV pulled up, he put his hood up.. and ran ...
when confronted about his suspicious activity..
(walking in a gated comunity in the rain holdin up his saggy's.. or keepin his hand on his weapon.. putin his hoody up,.. and runnin).. Travon responded by attacking the neighborhood watch captain...
the watch captain didn't find him after he ran and hid.. ...Zimmerman had lost him according to eyewitness accounts.. and was returning to his SUV...
and was attacked..
where is the confrontation by Zimmerman? there is none.. it didn't get to that point.. because Travon resorted to suspicious activity instead of law abiding societal norms.. and attacked the neighborhood watch captain out paroling in a gated community with a recent upsurge in burglaries and murder..