Treated hay with anydrous ammonia

[the_jersey_lilly_2000]

We've had hay that was 12% and lower in the past. Cows will eat it just fine. We fill up the syrup lick for protein supplement and they'll eat all the hay we put out. Clean it right up.
The syrup lick makes em look for roughage.

 

[Red Robin]

Have you figured out the cost on all of this, RR? Either per bale or an estimate per ton? My first thoughts are kinda along the lines of what Clarence said - if I had some hay that tested 12%, I think my cows would have to learn to like it.

It's been a month or two but if I remember correctly it's about 15 per ton which is about 7.50 per bale. You have to get it in them someway. If they won't eat it, it ain't going to do them much good. I guess they'd eat it with a snow on but we'll never get enough snow to feed it. As long as they can find anything else to eat , they won't touch it.

 

[kolanuraven]

Have you figured out the cost on all of this, RR? Either per bale or an estimate per ton? My first thoughts are kinda along the lines of what Clarence said - if I had some hay that tested 12%, I think my cows would have to learn to like it.

It's been a month or two but if I remember correctly it's about 15 per ton which is about 7.50 per bale. You have to get it in them someway. If they won't eat it, it ain't going to do them much good. I guess they'd eat it with a snow on but we'll never get enough snow to feed it. As long as they can find anything else to eat , they won't touch it.

:lol: :lol: :lol: Sounds like you've got my picky, Diva Bovine Queens!!!

 

[Brad S]

Red Robin, I don't know if you know about feeding ammoniated hay to late gestating cows? It can cause the calves to be disoriented at birth. THey are weak and have no instincts to nurse or even follow momma. KSU has documented the condition if you want to trudge through their animal science dept. You could simply call Twig Marston at KSU, he's real helpful.

 

[Texan]

It's been a month or two but if I remember correctly it's about 15 per ton which is about 7.50 per bale. You have to get it in them someway. If they won't eat it, it ain't going to do them much good. I guess they'd eat it with a snow on but we'll never get enough snow to feed it. As long as they can find anything else to eat , they won't touch it.

I guess that's the point I was getting at. Would it be cheaper if you had a trap to feed it in so that they HAVE to eat it?

 

[kolanuraven]

Throw some snuff in the hussies eyes...kick'em in the head and they'll settle right down and eat every bit of it I bet!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

 

[Mrs.Greg]

I'm so not an anydrous fan,coming home from town one day I was rerouted because the anydrous tanks at a holding spot had a leak,the guys were in hasmat suits.The holding tank has now been moved because anyhdrous was being stolen to be used as a main ingriedent in crystal meth.I really don't like the idea of cattle ingesting this stuff,it leads to humans ingestion. Not trying to start an argument just stating my point.

 

[loomixguy]

I have treated thousands of big round bales with Loomix over the last 10 years. There is an art to it so it doesn't run on the ground, but adding Loomix, which has a patent on fiber digestion, will not only add to the protein content of the hay, but it will increase it's digestibility by up to 34%, not to mention the added vitamin and chelated mineral package it contains. I try to have the guys let me put a trough out instead of treating the bales, cause it's easier for me and a way better way to control costs, but I still treat bales every year, nonetheless.

Can you kinda explain the process with some detail? It sounds like something I might be interested in. BTW will this treatment work with cornstalk bales??

Gotta have somebody on a loader tractor to set the bales in a row on butt end. I treat each bale with 7 gallons of product, pouring it all over the face of the butt end, from the outer end clear to the center of the bale. If the bales are baled really tight, you could possibly wait one minute before you tip them over on their round side with the loader. Bales that are not so tight may only take 30 seconds before the product begins to weep out the bottom.

Now I realize that water will not run through a bale in 30 seconds to one minute, but Loomix ain't water. It is so dense that it will find it's way to the end. Mr. Newton had some kind of a law about that. :wink:

I have never treated corn stover bales, but I'd bet you have to tip them over in seconds before they weep out the bottom end.

I have also treated ground hay as it was coming out the elevator of the grinder. I made a nozzle and attached it to a hose, started my pump and had it run real slow, and sprayed the hay, kinda like a fireman and a water hose. The only way you know for sure how much product you've put on is to weigh before and after application.

Hope this helps.

BTW......Jigs...I'm waiting for your call. I have contact people for you in your area.

 

[CattleArmy]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

 

[Red Robin]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

 

[Bullhauler]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

You have to be the most condescending jackass to ever post on here Red Robin. You just seem to be asking for a good ash-kicking every post you make.

 

[Mrs.Greg]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

You have to be the most condescending jackass to ever post on here Red Robin. You just seem to be asking for a good ash-kicking every post you make.

I believe RR was being genuine on his post to CRM.

 

[katrina]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

You have to be the most condescending jackass to ever post on here Red Robin. You just seem to be asking for a good ash-kicking every post you make.

Whoaaaaaaaa little buddy........ People in glass houses shouldn't throw rocks....... Shell we bring out your skeletons???

 

[Texan]

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

You have to be the most condescending jackass to ever post on here Red Robin. You just seem to be asking for a good ash-kicking every post you make.

I believe RR was being genuine on his post to CRM.

I'm confused - did I miss something somewhere else? It's pretty obvious to me that RR was sincere.

 

[Faster horses]

Gosh, sometimes you can't even be NICE without getting in trouble.
Who peed in your cornflakes this morning, bullhauler?

 

[Red Robin]

Several years ago a gentleman that I know sprayed bales as you said then tarped them. When he fed it then he sprayed some feed supliment on it so they would eat it. I could ask him the details if you were interested.

Thanks for the offer Cattle Army. I am going to just feed the anhydrated ammonia hay as it is. Your offer was generous though. I appreciate it.

You have to be the most condescending jackass to ever post on here Red Robin. You just seem to be asking for a good ash-kicking every post you make.

Hmmmm . I appreciate CattleArmy's sincere offer to help me. If that chapps you then so be it.

 

[Red Robin]

I fed a bale of my treated hay this morning. I unstacked it this morning so the ammonia smell was still stout to say the least. I put it in a field that is boot top deep in common bermuda that's green and growing. I fed the calves earlier so they were full and laying down. I put the hay in a ring . It has a carmel color and feels kind of waxy and softer with less dust than the typical combined hay. The calves lined up 2 deep around the ring trying to get to it. The ones that could eat seemed to like it. I don't think they are hungry enough to eat much. I'll watch tomorrow and see how much they consume. Might get a picture sometime.

 

[Hanta Yo]

RR, when we ammoniated straw, I really enjoyed feeding it. It smelled really good and the cows loved it ( this after sw pulled off the bales from the stack the day before). I had to fight them off as I was pulling strings :roll: When sw fed a "fresh" bale, those poor cows would be crying, but sure didn't stop them from eating it :!:

 

[Red Robin]

( this after sw pulled off the bales from the stack the day before). :!:

...an eye watering , sinus cavity opening experience indeed. :shock: