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Trip down memory lane

Texan

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Well, well, well...looky here what I found. :lol:


Oldtimer said:
I just don't think Obama is nominatable...Just not the time for a black with ties to the Muslim party- and a name like "Obama"...The country is not that progressive or globalized yet...

ff said:
I like Obama, too. After he's served a couple of terms in the Senate, he might be my choice for President. I think he needs more "seasoning" in national and international matters before he's settled in the Oval Office...

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=241703#241703
 
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Texan said:
Well, well, well...looky here what I found. :lol:


Oldtimer said:
I just don't think Obama is nominatable...Just not the time for a black with ties to the Muslim party- and a name like "Obama"...The country is not that progressive or globalized yet...

ff said:
I like Obama, too. After he's served a couple of terms in the Senate, he might be my choice for President. I think he needs more "seasoning" in national and international matters before he's settled in the Oval Office...

http://ranchers.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=241703#241703

I was wrong- I guess the country has progressed to the point a black is not only nominatable- but electable...
Then I didn't think the Bush backlash was that bad--but I also didn't think GW would be such a dummy when his Bush Bust was obvious to everyone but him....
 

Texan

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I was wrong, too. I thought you would be able to 'fess up to your blatant anti-Muslim racism without turning it into a Bush-bash. :lol:
 
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Texan said:
I was wrong, too. I thought you would be able to 'fess up to your blatant anti-Muslim racism without turning it into a Bush-bash. :lol:

Racism :lol: :lol: :lol:
 

Mike

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Face it, OT.

You followed the rest of the Sheep, just like the media (MSM) intended you to. :roll:

"A black with ties to the Muslim Party"?

Are we "Globalized enough yet"? :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
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Mike said:
Face it, OT.

You followed the rest of the Sheep, just like the media (MSM) intended you to. :roll:

"A black with ties to the Muslim Party"?

Are we "Globalized enough yet"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

When you are offered only one choice- thats the direction you have to take....
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Face it, OT.

You followed the rest of the Sheep, just like the media (MSM) intended you to. :roll:

"A black with ties to the Muslim Party"?

Are we "Globalized enough yet"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

When you are offered only one choice- thats the direction you have to take....

There was not "only one choice" and if you actually think that, you have my sympathies. :x
 
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Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
Mike said:
Face it, OT.

You followed the rest of the Sheep, just like the media (MSM) intended you to. :roll:

"A black with ties to the Muslim Party"?

Are we "Globalized enough yet"? :lol: :lol: :lol:

When you are offered only one choice- thats the direction you have to take....

There was not "only one choice" and if you actually think that, you have my sympathies. :x

4 more years of GW Bush "misdirection" was out of the question- not only to me but a majority of this country....
 

Soapweed

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Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
When you are offered only one choice- thats the direction you have to take....

There was not "only one choice" and if you actually think that, you have my sympathies. :x

4 more years of GW Bush "misdirection" was out of the question- not only to me but a majority of this country....

I am going to repost this, because you never properly responded to it on an earlier post.

Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
Big Muddy rancher said:
If you notice that after two pages of post most of which was me bringing to the top he is conspicuous by his absence. :?

And here I thought it was only your wife that had a stalking infatuation with me :???: I'm starting to wonder about you Big Fella- bad enough alone you ain't taking care of your wife :wink: :p :p

I don't know what I am- I'm ME...Hell with the labels, I go the direction I feel-and the direction I think is heading right for the time and circumstances - not what the cultist (R) or (D) folks tell me or whats PC for the day....

I know when I take those on line political stance tests they usually come back centrist/moderate- libertarian- altho I lean fiscally conservative...
I also know that when the University did a study of Montana voters- the majority were Libertarian as they are more socially Liberal- very open to minority's (probably because of our not that long ago settled population that came from every part of the globe-voluntarily), do not want political parties interfering in or telling them the religion/belief(s) they should worship- or that we all have to be "born again" Bible Thumpers , or despise and hate monger to anyone that isn't- don't think government should be sticking their noses into bedrooms- and who they associate with or want to spend their lives with (altho the state has rejected same sex marriages), should not have old grey haired men in D.C. legislating decisions that should be left to the person after consultation with their doctor and their God....Most folks in this state also believe the Gospel words that "we are all brothers" and don't go automatically judging someone because of the color of their skin- and judge them by who they are, and what they do- not on whether their folks came over on the Mayflower- or met it....

If I don't fit in with the current neocon Republicanism that believes in stifling all that- so be it...These current batch of Republicans/right wingnuts wouldn't make a pimple on the arse of the oldtimers that really respected liberty, law and order, the Constitution and individual privacy rights...

Basically you believe in all the right things, Oldtimer. It is just your ideas of how to get to that point that are skewed. You are always condemning us "right wingnuts," but if you would look in the mirror, your deep down thoughts are more in line with us than with the far left leaning Liberals. Believe it or not, you and most of us "right wingnuts" were not happy with Bush because he spent money like a drunken sailor. Why then would you support Obama who plans to spend money like a whole drunken battalion? Bush's spending will look like a drop in a bucket to what Obama will spend before he is done. We, as private citizens or as a nation, can't spend money we don't have on things we don't need and ever hope to get out of debt. It is purely impossible by all laws of logic.

You don't like government interference. Why then have you supported Obama, who will completely screw up private property rights if he is given half a chance? By your own set of values (and by my values), Bush was too liberal. Why then do you support the Democrats who are far more liberal?

The Republicans completely dropped the ball in the last few years. We don't need "neocons," we need good straight shootin' conservatives with honesty and integrity. They are hard to come by, because most of the good people with those kind of values prefer to stay in private businesses rather than become politicians. I don't know what the answer is, but I do know that in the case of two duds running for office, we should still try our best to elect the one that has the best values, with the best interests of our nation in mind. This did not happen with the past presidential election. :(
 

Mike

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Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
Oldtimer said:
When you are offered only one choice- thats the direction you have to take....

There was not "only one choice" and if you actually think that, you have my sympathies. :x

4 more years of GW Bush "misdirection" was out of the question- not only to me but a majority of this country....

1- Bush wasn't in the election...

2- "A majority of this country" did not decide the election

The Dems got 51% of the 64% that voted.

You voted along with 100% of the Al Sharptons and the Jesse Jacksons. :roll:
 
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Mike said:
Oldtimer said:
Soapweed said:
There was not "only one choice" and if you actually think that, you have my sympathies. :x

4 more years of GW Bush "misdirection" was out of the question- not only to me but a majority of this country....

1- Bush wasn't in the election...

McSame was tho-- still more of the same....This was shown when all three- Bush, McCain, and his Treasury Secretary leading candidate Gramm were all echoing the same rhetoric-- "the fundamentals of the ecomomy are strong"--even as the banks were failing around them...They didn't have a clue- and folks saw that....
 

TexasBred

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Did you even consider Romney, Huckabee, Thompson?? You made you Osama Obama comments in 2007....the primaries hadn't even started and the election was over according to you and Bush was already to blame for today's problem. Oh I forgot you had already predicted the crash.
 

Mike

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McSame was tho-- still more of the same....This was shown when all three- Bush, McCain, and his Treasury Secretary leading candidate Gramm were all echoing the same rhetoric-- "the fundamentals of the ecomomy are strong"--even as the banks were failing around them...They didn't have a clue- and folks saw that....

You have Soapweed's sympathies......but not mine. :roll: :roll:
 
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TexasBred said:
Did you even consider Romney, Huckabee, Thompson?? You made you Osama Obama comments in 2007....the primaries hadn't even started and the election was over according to you and Bush was already to blame for today's problem. Oh I forgot you had already predicted the crash.

Yeah I did- and there was only one Repub candidate running that wasn't backslapping Bush and echoing his rhetoric- and supporting his corporate fascist beliefs- and that was Ron Paul...If you looked back far enough you can see where I posted several posts about him.....

But the Montana Republicans this year decided that the Montana voters didn't count to them anymore- and only the elitist party leaders in a caucus should be allowed to choose who they should support for President- and I wasn't even given the chance to vote for Paul... :roll:

And I could see where the neocon Bush Bunch and their rubberstamp Congress was leading us and this economy long before 2007...And I could see the backlash against the party that was going to result from that misdirection and rubberstamping....
Remember thats why I get to tell you I Told You So.... :wink:

"The American people are slow to anger; but when their wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming fire."
~President Theodore Roosevelt
 

Lonecowboy

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Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
Did you even consider Romney, Huckabee, Thompson?? You made you Osama Obama comments in 2007....the primaries hadn't even started and the election was over according to you and Bush was already to blame for today's problem. Oh I forgot you had already predicted the crash.

Yeah I did- and there was only one Repub candidate running that wasn't backslapping Bush and echoing his rhetoric- and supporting his corporate fascist beliefs- and that was Ron Paul...If you looked back far enough you can see where I posted several posts about him.....

But the Montana Republicans this year decided that the Montana voters didn't count to them anymore- and only the elitist party leaders in a caucus should be allowed to choose who they should support for President- and I wasn't even given the chance to vote for Paul... :roll:

And I could see where the neocon Bush Bunch and their rubberstamp Congress was leading us and this economy long before 2007...And I could see the backlash against the party that was going to result from that misdirection and rubberstamping....
Remember thats why I get to tell you I Told You So.... :wink:

"The American people are slow to anger; but when their wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming fire."
~President Theodore Roosevelt


are you a habitual liar or senile OT????
I live and vote in MT too, I got to vote twice for Ron Paul!!!
once in primary, once in general, he was on the ballot both times!!
oh yes there was more than one choice!!
 

Mike

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Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
Did you even consider Romney, Huckabee, Thompson?? You made you Osama Obama comments in 2007....the primaries hadn't even started and the election was over according to you and Bush was already to blame for today's problem. Oh I forgot you had already predicted the crash.

Yeah I did- and there was only one Repub candidate running that wasn't backslapping Bush and echoing his rhetoric- and supporting his corporate fascist beliefs- and that was Ron Paul...If you looked back far enough you can see where I posted several posts about him.....

But the Montana Republicans this year decided that the Montana voters didn't count to them anymore- and only the elitist party leaders in a caucus should be allowed to choose who they should support for President- and I wasn't even given the chance to vote for Paul... :roll:

And I could see where the neocon Bush Bunch and their rubberstamp Congress was leading us and this economy long before 2007...And I could see the backlash against the party that was going to result from that misdirection and rubberstamping....
Remember thats why I get to tell you I Told You So.... :wink:

"The American people are slow to anger; but when their wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming fire."
~President Theodore Roosevelt


are you a habitual liar or senile OT????
I live and vote in MT too, I got to vote twice for Ron Paul!!!
once in primary, once in general, he was on the ballot both times!!
oh yes there was more than one choice!!


OOOOOOOOPS!!!

Definitely BOTH!!!!!!

OT been caught lying how many hundreds of times??????????????
Constitution Party Filed Paperwork Friday
Ron Paul Will be on Presidential Ballot

Rep. Ron Paul

By Dan Testa, 09-08-08
Ron Paul's name will appear on the Montana presidential ballot as the Constitution Party nominee, along with running mate Michael Peroutka, according to a spokesman at the Montana Secretary of State's office.

Jonathan Martin, state chairman of the Constitution Party of Montana confirmed that he submitted the paperwork for Ron Paul's presidential candidacy Friday. The Montana Constitution Party recently disaffiliated itself with the national Constitution Party, which is supporting Chuck Baldwin, a conservative radio talk show host and Baptist minister in Florida. Ballot Access News first broke the story about Paul's name on the Montana ballot.

Martin said he simply felt Paul was the most qualified, experienced candidate with views most closely in line with the Constitution – though he acknowledged neither Baldwin nor Paul are likely to win the state.

"From a pragmatic point of view, neither one of them are likely to win," Martin said. "If there is anything we can do to further an interest in the Constitution and keep this issue alive, it would be good."

Martin also stressed that Paul did not ask to be put on the Montana ballot, but that the former Republican candidate and Texas congressman did not object to having his name there either.

"Ron Paul did not seek it, but he did not oppose it," Martin said. "He allowed it."

Paul's name on the ballot could siphon votes from Republican presidential candidate John McCain. In Montana’s June 3 primary, Paul took 20,606 votes, well short of McCain’s 72,791, but still a sizeable chunk of Republican voters. An additional 2,333 Montanans voted for neither, choosing Republican “no preference.”

Martin said he would not be concerned if putting Paul on the ballot harmed McCain's candidacy.

"If it would affect that, it wouldn't bother us too much," Martin added. "We wanted to put the best candidate that was out there on the ballot."

Unbelievable!!!! And you can still look in the mirror each morning? :roll:
 

Mike

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PRESIDENTIAL BALLOT FINALIZED

September 8, 2008

HELENA—Today the office of Secretary of State Brad Johnson notified county election offices of the final list of Presidential and Vice-Presidential candidates whose names will appear on the November ballot.

Said Johnson, “This year, Montana’s elections have attracted more national attention than ever before. The number of candidates proves just how much Montana matters this year.”

The candidates for President and Vice President who will appear on Montana’s general election ballot are:


Bob Barr and Wayne Allen Root – Libertarian Party

John McCain and Sarah Palin – Republican Party

Ralph Nader and Matt Gonzalez – independent

Barack Obama and Joe Biden – Democratic Party

Ron Paul and Michael Peroutka – Constitution Party of Montana



There are also write-in candidates for President only – not for Vice President. Their names will not appear on the ballot. However, if a voter writes in any of those names, it will be counted.

Those names are: Keith Judd, Kenneth Marcure, Lawson Bone, Lynn Starr, Ronald Hobbs and Frank Moore.
 
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Lonecowboy said:
Oldtimer said:
TexasBred said:
Did you even consider Romney, Huckabee, Thompson?? You made you Osama Obama comments in 2007....the primaries hadn't even started and the election was over according to you and Bush was already to blame for today's problem. Oh I forgot you had already predicted the crash.

Yeah I did- and there was only one Repub candidate running that wasn't backslapping Bush and echoing his rhetoric- and supporting his corporate fascist beliefs- and that was Ron Paul...If you looked back far enough you can see where I posted several posts about him.....

But the Montana Republicans this year decided that the Montana voters didn't count to them anymore- and only the elitist party leaders in a caucus should be allowed to choose who they should support for President- and I wasn't even given the chance to vote for Paul... :roll:

And I could see where the neocon Bush Bunch and their rubberstamp Congress was leading us and this economy long before 2007...And I could see the backlash against the party that was going to result from that misdirection and rubberstamping....
Remember thats why I get to tell you I Told You So.... :wink:

"The American people are slow to anger; but when their wrath is kindled, it burns like a consuming fire."
~President Theodore Roosevelt


are you a habitual liar or senile OT????

once in primary, once in general, he was on the ballot both times!!
oh yes there was more than one choice!!

The primary vote didn't count- as the caucus had already chosen who they would cast their convention votes for-- Romney....Paul was second place in the caucus (won most eastern counties--McCain was dead last)- but when Romney backed out the party elite decided to not vote for him (as you would think would happen with the 2nd place if 1st place drops out)- but instead followed the flow with McCain...

Paul was not on the ticket as the Republican candidate in the general- he was on there as a Constitution Party member- and as such stood no chance of winning- and just as when I voted for Perot- ended up a wasted vote....
My choice was made as a vote to make sure Bush III didn't get into office...
Lonecowboy
I live and vote in MT too, I got to vote twice for Ron Paul!!!

Lonecowboy- why didn't you vote for McCain :???:
 

Lonecowboy

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something hard for you to understand OT,--- principles :D


McCain is way too liberal--
If only Sarah Palin had been at the TOP of the ticket--
I could have still written her in though-- I had a choice!!

I understand some of your frustration, but that is no excuse to not tell the truth or exagerate!!!
 
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