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Trying to understand this.........

Goodpasture

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Ok, lets look at a few names.....most recently Craig, Cunningham, Haggard come to mind as Republicans preaching family values. Also heard on talk radio that it was no worse than what Clinton did. But the preaching of family values, focused in the Republican party, I do not understand the incredible history of of the Republicans......course, FAUX Noise doesn't report it, but if someone starts saying they are Republican and are for family values, check on your children...........according to the following list, this is NOT an aberration.

* Republican legislator Ted Klaudt was charged with raping girls under the age of 16.

* Republican city councilman Joseph Monteleone Jr. was found guilty of fondling underage girls.

* Republican congressional aide Jeffrey Nielsen was arrested for having sex with a 14-year old boy.

* Republican County Commissioner Patrick Lee McGuire surrendered to police after allegedly molesting girls between the ages of 8 and 13.

* Republican prosecutor Larry Corrigan was arrested for soliciting sex from 13-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Jeffrey Kyle Randall was sentenced to 275 days in jail for molesting two boys -- ages ten and 12 -- during a six-year period.

* Republican County Board Candidate Brent Schepp was charged with molesting a 14-year old girl and killed himself three days later.

* Republican Congressman Mark Foley abruptly resigned from Congress after "sexually explicit" emails surfaced showing him flirting with a 16-year old boy.

* Republican executive Randall Casseday of the conservative Washington Times newspaper pleaded guilty to soliciting sex from a 13-year old girl on the internet.

* Republican chairman of the Oregon Christian Coalition Lou Beres confessed to molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Constable Larry Dale Floyd pleaded guilty to charges of soliciting sex from an 8-year old girl. Floyd has repeatedly won elections for Denton County, Texas, constable.

* Republican judge Mark Pazuhanich pleaded no contest to fondling a 10-year old girl and was sentenced to 10 years probation.

* Republican Party leader Bobby Stumbo was arrested for having sex with a 5-year old boy.

* Republican petition drive manager Tom Randall pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 14, one of them the daughter of an associate in the petition business.

* Republican County Chairman Armando Tebano pleaded guilty to fondling a 14-year-old girl.

* Republican teacher and former city councilman John Collins pleaded guilty to sexually molesting 13 and 14 year old girls.

* Republican campaign worker Mark Seidensticker is a convicted child molester.

* Republican Mayor Philip Giordano is serving a 37-year sentence in federal prison for sexually abusing 8- and 10-year old girls.

* Republican Mayor Tom Adams was arrested for distributing child pornography over the internet.

* Republican Mayor John Gosek was arrested on charges of soliciting sex from two 15-year old girls.

* Republican County Commissioner David Swartz pleaded guilty to molesting two girls under the age of 11 and was sentenced to 8 years in prison.

* Republican legislator Edison Misla Aldarondo was sentenced to 10 years in prison for raping his daughter between the ages of 9 and 17.

* Republican Committeeman John R. Curtin was convicted of molesting an underage teenage boy and sentenced to serve six to 18 months in prison.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Howard Scott Heldreth is a convicted child rapist in Florida.

* Republican zoning supervisor, Boy Scout leader and Lutheran church president Dennis L. Rader pleaded guilty to performing a sexual act on an 11-year old girl he murdered.

* Republican anti-abortion activist Nicholas Morency pleaded guilty to possessing child pornography on his computer and offering a bounty to anybody who murders an abortion doctor.

* Republican campaign consultant Tom Shortridge was sentenced to three years probation for taking nude photographs of a 15-year old girl.

* Republican pastor Mike Hintz, whom George W. Bush commended during the 2004 presidential campaign, surrendered to police after admitting to a sexual affair with a female juvenile.

* Republican legislator Peter Dibble pleaded no contest to having an inappropriate relationship with a 13-year-old girl.

* Republican advertising consultant Carey Lee Cramer was sentenced to six years in prison for molesting two 8-year old girls, one of whom appeared in an anti-Gore television commercial.

* Republican fundraiser Lawrence E. King, Jr. organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican lobbyist Craig J. Spence organized child sex parties at the White House during the 1980s.

* Republican Congressman Donald "Buz" Lukens was found guilty of having sex with a female minor and sentenced to one month in jail.

* Republican fundraiser Richard A. Delgaudio was found guilty of child porn charges and paying two teenage girls to pose for sexual photos.

* Republican activist Mark A. Grethen convicted on six counts of sex crimes involving children.

* Republican campaign chairman Randal David Ankeney pleaded guilty to attempted sexual assault on a child and was arrested again five years later on the same charge.

* Republican Congressman Dan Crane had sex with a female minor working as a congressional page.

* Republican activist and Christian Coalition leader Beverly Russell admitted to an incestuous relationship with his step daughter.

* Republican Judge Ronald C. Kline pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer.

* Republican congressman and anti-gay activist Robert Bauman was charged with having sex with a 16-year-old boy he picked up at a gay bar.

* Republican Committee Chairman Jeffrey Patti was arrested for distributing a video clip of a 5-year-old girl being raped.

* Republican activist Marty Glickman (a.k.a. "Republican Marty"), was taken into custody by Florida police on four counts of unlawful sexual activity with an underage girl and one count of delivering the drug LSD.

* Republican legislative aide Howard L. Brooks was charged with molesting a 12-year old boy and possession of child pornography.

* Republican Senate candidate John Hathaway was accused of having sex with his 12-year old baby sitter and withdrew his candidacy after the allegations were reported in the media.

* Republican preacher Stephen White, who demanded a return to traditional values, was sentenced prison after offering $20 to a 14-year-old boy for permission to perform oral sex on him.

* Republican talk show host Jon Matthews pleaded guilty to exposing his genitals to an 11 year old girl.

* Republican anti-gay activist Earl "Butch" Kimmerling was sentenced to 40 years in prison for molesting an 8-year old girl after he attempted to stop a gay couple from adopting her.

* Republican Party leader Paul Ingram pleaded guilty to six counts of raping his daughters and served 14 years in federal prison.

* Republican election board official Kevin Coan was sentenced to two years probation for soliciting sex over the internet from a 14-year old girl.

* Republican politician Andrew Buhr was charged with two counts of first degree sodomy with a 13-year old boy.

* Republican legislator Keith Westmoreland was arrested on seven felony counts of lewd and lascivious exhibition to girls under the age of 16 (i.e. exposing himself to children).

* Republican anti-abortion activist John Allen Burt was found guilty of molesting a 15-year old girl.

* Republican County Councilman Keola Childs pleaded guilty to molesting a male child.

* Republican activist John Butler was charged with criminal sexual assault on a teenage girl.

* Republican candidate Richard Gardner admitted to molesting his two daughters.

* Republican Councilman and former Marine Jack W. Gardner was convicted of molesting a 13-year old girl.

* Republican County Commissioner Merrill Robert Barter pleaded guilty to unlawful sexual contact and assault on a teenage boy.

* Republican City Councilman Fred C. Smeltzer, Jr. pleaded no contest to raping a 15 year-old girl and served 6-months in prison.

* Republican activist Parker J. Bena pleaded guilty to possession of child pornography on his home computer and was sentenced to 30 months in federal prison and fined $18,000.

* Republican parole board officer and former Colorado state representative, Larry Jack Schwarz, was fired after child pornography was found in his possession.

* Republican strategist and Citadel Military College graduate Robin Vanderwall was convicted in Virginia on five counts of soliciting sex from boys and girls over the internet.

* Republican city councilman Mark Harris, who is described as a "good military man" and "church goer," was convicted of repeatedly having sex with an 11-year-old girl and sentenced to 12 years in prison.

* Republican campaign worker, police officer and self-proclaimed reverend Steve Aiken was convicted of having sex with two underage girls.

* Republican director of the "Young Republican Federation" Nicholas Elizondo molested his 6-year old daughter and was sentenced to six years in prison.

* Republican benefactor of conservative Christian groups, Richard A. Dasen Sr., was found guilty of raping a 15-year old girl. Dasen, 62, who is married with grown children and several grandchildren, has allegedly told police that over the past decade he paid more than $1 million to have sex with a large number of young women.
 

Soapweed

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There are 65 names on your "tainted Republican" list. If Kola's Google machine works, there were 44,800,000 registered Republicans in the USA in the year 2000. If my calculator with all the numbers wore off works, this figures out to .00014 of one percent that are "bad" Republicans. That really isn't too bad of a ratio. Can the Democrats impress us with anywhere near that ratio of good Democrats to bad Democrats? :wink: :)
 

Sandhusker

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Perversion is not a party-specific problem. I'm sure you could find just as many Democrats if you took the effort. Neither is more guilty than the other due to affiliation - I don't think either party condones a man having sex with a child.
 

loomixguy

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Whatever became of the Gary Condon thing? Did they ever find Chandra Levy? Was it 9/11 that came and swept this under the rug? Something did.

Perversion is bad enough. Murder is even worse. Just ask Mary Jo Kopeckne's(sp?) parents. I wonder if they vote Democrat.
 

Larrry

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I wonder why the LIAR even posted this. Just him trying to imply that Reps are the dirty ones. So sad that the Dems have such a hangup with this gay issue.
Did they have a hangup when Barny Frank had his male prostitution ring problems. Did they call for his resignation, I think not. On the other hand you see many Reps calling for Craigs resignation. Come on you lefties get with the program and be consistent.
 
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Larrry said:
I wonder why the LIAR even posted this. Just him trying to imply that Reps are the dirty ones. So sad that the Dems have such a hangup with this gay issue.
Did they have a hangup when Barny Frank had his male prostitution ring problems. Did they call for his resignation, I think not. On the other hand you see many Reps calling for Craigs resignation. Come on you lefties get with the program and be consistent.

I can easily tell you why-- HYPOCRISY-- The Democratic party is not the one actively campaigning itself to be the Party of the Highest Christian Values- the party that says homosexuality is immoral and is trying to ban it....The party that believes all lawbreakers should be locked up and the key thrown away forever (but then don't follow their own beliefs--remember all the illegal immigrants and all their buddies that are hiring them- remember a fellow named "Scooter" :roll: ).....
I always thought of the Republican Party as the "law and order" party--but not anymore...The last 6-7 years their image has become more tied to "GREED"--profit, no matter who else is negatively affected- or how badly we have to bend the laws and Constitution.....

Remember Newts "Contract with America" that brought in all the Republican followers :???: Tougher enforcement of ALL laws, balanced budget, decreased federal bureaucracy, term limits, welfare reform, balanced budget, decreased federal involvement in the UN, and less use of US troops in peacekeeping missions etc. etc..... Well I don't think many in the White House or on Capitol Hill do anymore....The Republican party of today is not the Republican party I've know for many years.....

And its kind of hard to blame it all on the Democrats when the Repubs controlled the Hill for 12 years-- the White House and Hill for the last 7- and still control the Administration- which should be setting some direction for this now stumbling/fumbling party....
 

Larrry

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Man this is good
The Democratic party is not the one actively campaigning itself to be the Party of the Highest Christian Values
Since the dems do not "actively campaign" for value then they do not have to live up to any standards. As Gomer Pyle would say GOLLLEEEEEE.
And yes the libs are hypocrites, Barny Frank says it all.

As far as parties and what they were years ago, neither are what they were years ago.

And yes there are many reps who are greedy as many dems who are greedy, no party is immune from being greedy. The problem is not the GREED it is the l;ack of morals that make Greed a dirty word.

For anyone to imply this a just a Rep problem, well I guess I would have to call them stupid
 
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Larrry said:
Man this is good
The Democratic party is not the one actively campaigning itself to be the Party of the Highest Christian Values
Since the dems do not "actively campaign" for value then they do not have to live up to any standards. As Gomer Pyle would say GOLLLEEEEEE.
And yes the libs are hypocrites, Barny Frank says it all.

As far as parties and what they were years ago, neither are what they were years ago.

And yes there are many reps who are greedy as many dems who are greedy, no party is immune from being greedy. The problem is not the GREED it is the l;ack of morals that make Greed a dirty word.

For anyone to imply this a just a Rep problem, well I guess I would have to call them stupid

Your correct Larry-- neither of the parties are close to what they used to be...And this is not just a Republican problem-- but it becomes magnified when its a Republican involved because of the image they try to promote- the "we're holier than thou" image--which personally I don't think they've done a very good job of living up to......

And I don't think you'd see so many Republicans jumping on the "dump Craig" bandwagon if they hadn't expected this for years...

One of the reasons we need "term limits" so these guys don't get so entrenched that they don't/won't keep their own houses clean....Now its a You don't tell what I did- I won't tell what you did situation....

Yep-- and (R) or a (D) besides someones name doesn't mean they're a good person or a bad person-- the reason I've always said you got to look further than that....I never could understand these folks that vote straight all 1 party....No wonder the idiots we end up with in D.C....
 

Red Robin

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I'm wondering if the Rep. politicians are held more accountable because they are hypocritic when they do something immoral then are the democrats also hypocritic when they do something moral? :lol:

I say anytime they find a politician who is a lying cheating imoral fool, throw them out on the street.
 

Red Robin

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You moderates that are aginst immorality and child exploitation should support this bill.

Representative Marilyn Musgrave (R-Colorado) is sponsoring a bill that would prohibit the access of child porn. The Child Pornography Elimination Act of 2007 (HR 3148) would also impose mandatory criminal penalties for possession of child porn and increase civil penalties for Internet service providers that fail to report child porn to law enforcement. In addition, it would provide mandatory restitution for child pornography victims.

The congresswoman says the new leadership on Capitol Hill has different priorities, and that protecting children should be their highest priority. "I'm frustrated with leadership, and I hope that they will take action on my bill and a number of other bills that address child porn and these victims who suffer for the rest of their life," says Musgrave.

According to Musgrave, child porn is an "incredibly profitable global enterprise."

"The technical sophistication of these heinous criminals is just staggering," Musgrave observes, "and children who are used in this just hellish industry are just some of the most pitiful victims of abuse and molestation that you would ever see. And you know, unfortunately, around the world in many countries it's not even criminal activity," she says.

The Colorado lawmaker says although current law prohibits the possession, trafficking, or transport of child pornography, the Internet allows pedophiles to view the material without actually downloading or printing it.
 

MoGal

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What I have mostly heard on the news today with Craig's scandal is that he was also for "illegal immigration" ............. that's going to come back and haunt every congressional person that voted for it (and it should, as they should be ousted), but they practically put it in the same sentence with his scandal.
 

nonothing

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larry said

Since the dems do not "actively campaign" for value then they do not have to live up to any standards. As Gomer Pyle would say GOLLLEEEEEE.

At least one repub on this board has quoted a gay man to make his piont...Change is a commin...lol. :D
 

aplusmnt

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nonothing said:
larry said

Since the dems do not "actively campaign" for value then they do not have to live up to any standards. As Gomer Pyle would say GOLLLEEEEEE.

At least one repub on this board has quoted a gay man to make his piont...Change is a commin...lol. :D

Thats funny! :lol:
 

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