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Turning the green zone over

fff

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We're supposed to turn the security of the Green Zone over under the new agreement Bush and the Iraqi government have signed. This doesn't sound promising:

Explosions kill at least 15 outside Iraq's Green Zone
By Adam Ashton

BAGHDAD — Two explosions killed at least 15 people today, including an Iraqi army soldier at a heavily guarded checkpoint leading to the U.S.-controlled Green Zone.

The U.S. said the larger explosion killed 14 and injured four on a shuttle in Baghdad's Karadah District about 7:20 a.m.

Iraqi officials said someone placed a magnetic bomb on a shuttle for employees of the Ministry of Trade in Baghdad's Karadah District about 7:20 a.m. All of the victims worked for the ministry. The second bombing reportedly was carried out by a mentally unstable woman wearing suicide vest, said Qassim al Musawi, spokesman for the Iraqi army in Baghdad.

Iraqi police and the U.S. military have issued different reports about the number of deaths caused by the checkpoint explosion.

The U.S. has confirmed eight injuries and one death, that of an Iraqi army soldier. Iraqi police say five were killed, two of them soldiers.The checkpoint sits a few hundred yards from Iraq's parliament, which was scheduled to debate an agreement today that calls for the withdrawal of American forces from the country by 2012.

That agreement has proved divisive in Iraq over the past two weeks. It's meant to replace a United Nations mandate that allows Americans to operate in Iraq. That mandate expires Dec. 31.

Several political blocs refuse to accept the agreement, though it appears to have enough votes to pass Iraq's 275-member parliament. It's expected to go to a vote by Wednesday.

More than 10,000 followers of radical cleric Muqtada al Sadr protested it in a central Baghdad square Friday, criticizing the pact as an infringement on Iraqi sovereignty. Sadr has suggested he'd call off a cease-fire among his militia if it passes.

The U.S. is still investigating today's bombings, and is not prepared to say what motivated them.

"Coalition forces are convinced that today's horrific acts will not deter the government of Iraq from deciding their own future through peaceful means, and not acts of barbaric terrorism designed to intimidated the will of the government," the U.S. said in a written statement.

Ashton reports for the Modesto (Calif.) Bee. McClatchy special correspondents Mohammed al Dulaimy and Hussein Khadim contributed to this report.

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/251/story/56377.html
 
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Anonymous

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And Cost how much :???: :( :mad:

This is the way the war ends, not with a bang, but a whimper

Sunday, November 30, 2008
With little coverage in the US press, outgoing lame-duck-in-chief Bush has just basically surrendered in Iraq, and the only question is whether the thing that can be seen waving is a white flag or Bush’s tail between his legs. You would think that with all the noise during the presidential campaign about the need for “victory” in Iraq, that someone would notice. But no.

The Bush administration has negotiated an agreement with the government of Iraq that sets a firm timetable for the US withdrawal from Iraq — something that Bush repeatedly and vigorously vowed that he would never do, claiming that such an timetable would endanger the US and its troops. According to Peter Galbraith, a top Iran expert and former ambassador to Croatia:

The agreement represents a stunning and humiliating reversal of course by the Bush administration, which had vehemently opposed any timetable for withdrawal from Iraq.

The agreement mandates that US combat forces withdraw from urban areas by the end of this coming June (a scarce seven months from now), and withdraw completely from Iraq by the end of December 2011. The agreement bars permanent American bases in Iraq, leaves a government in charge of Iraq that is decidedly pro-Iranian, something else about which Bush warned about repeatedly.

And finally, nobody noticed that Bush didn’t bother to visit the troops in Iraq for the Thanksgiving and serve them turkey.
 

Steve

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fff
We're supposed to turn the security of the Green Zone over under the new agreement Bush and the Iraqi government have signed. This doesn't sound promising:

could you liberals make up your mind.... first you want a timetable.. and US out of Iraq,.. and now you don't want a timetable?

this whole thing doesn't matter unless you pinned your dreams to Obama who promised US out in 16 months.. which is May 21, of 2010, so the 2012 timetable is irrelelavent.


so either you knew Obama is a liar, or you don't believe Obama will get US out before 2012.. which is it?
 
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Anonymous

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I just think its ironic that after all your chosen Champions- and Bush's- rhetoric about no timetable for the last several years and during the campaign- that the Iraqis themselves stuck him with a timetable.. And a far from stable and Democratic government...

Bush Accepts Timeline for Withdrawing Troops from Iraq
After years of saying he would never accept a timeline for withdrawing U.S.troops from Iraq because that would help the enemy, President Bush has accepted a timeline for withdrawing all U.S. troops from Iraq: Dec.31, 2011. Nobdoy noticed. After the U.S. leaves, Iraq will be run by a pro-Iranian government that opposes everything Bush wanted to achieve in Iraq. There has been no political solution about dividing up the oil revenue, so civil war remains an option for the future as well. However, since the agreement will be signed on Bush's watch, if Iraq devolves into chaos later on, the question: "Who lost Iraq?" will have a clear answer: George W. Bush. While this doesn't get Barack Obama off the hook entirely, for him an easy course of events is to carry out Bush's agreement and keep Robert Gates on as secretary of defense to see it through. As long as Obama doesn't have to make an executive decisions about Iraq but just carries out existing policy, he probably won't be blamed if things go wrong.

Just another "Bush Blunder"- that was very costly to America...GW didn't go to Iraq (or Afghanistan) for Thanksgiving because all he wants to do is slip out the door and hope people forget what he did to this country...
But that will take generations.....
 

Sandhusker

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In light of your current bitching, would you Liberals care to to explain what would of happened had we followed Dear Leader Chairman Maobama's wishes and turned tail a year ago?
 

hopalong

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Oldtimer said:
I just think its ironic that after all your chosen Champions- and Bush's- rhetoric about no timetable for the last several years and during the campaign- that the Iraqis themselves stuck him with a timetable.. And a far from stable and Democratic government...

Bush Accepts Timeline for Withdrawing Troops from Iraq
After years of saying he would never accept a timeline for withdrawing U.S.troops from Iraq because that would help the enemy, President Bush has accepted a timeline for withdrawing all U.S. troops from Iraq: Dec.31, 2011. Nobdoy noticed. After the U.S. leaves, Iraq will be run by a pro-Iranian government that opposes everything Bush wanted to achieve in Iraq. There has been no political solution about dividing up the oil revenue, so civil war remains an option for the future as well. However, since the agreement will be signed on Bush's watch, if Iraq devolves into chaos later on, the question: "Who lost Iraq?" will have a clear answer: George W. Bush. While this doesn't get Barack Obama off the hook entirely, for him an easy course of events is to carry out Bush's agreement and keep Robert Gates on as secretary of defense to see it through. As long as Obama doesn't have to make an executive decisions about Iraq but just carries out existing policy, he probably won't be blamed if things go wrong.

Just another "Bush Blunder"- that was very costly to America...GW didn't go to Iraq (or Afghanistan) for Thanksgiving because all he wants to do is slip out the door and hope people forget what he did to this country...
But that will take generations.....

Could you offer proof of that or is that just another one of your feeble attacks of Bush??/ Beating a dead horse again oldtimer.
Go back on your meds!!!
 
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