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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Murgen said:
Canada's is still intact, and our beef is as safe (or safer) as any in the world.


Murgen - then you answer me the question as to why after several of the investigations ( #7-#8, or was it 8-9 , 9-10 whatever?, I lost track on how many Canada now has :wink: ) CFIA released a statement saying at least 2 cases were tracked to a contracted trucking firm that had not properly cleaned their trucks and had provided feed to several feed mills- with no further info- but then released a statement that could be taken as something to the effect that there could be inumerable diseased cattle all over the western provinces- but then said nothing else... Then the Manitoba cow was found...

Tam and none of the industry leaders seem to care enough to ask- but this sure doesn't give me feelings of safe (or safer) beef :wink: :???:
Oldtimer you are jumping to conclusions AGAIN :roll: , what I said was I wasn't going to tell you until you start answering our questions, so I doubt you will ever know where whether I asked the CFIA. as you will never have proof to where your cases were born thanks to R-CALF getting M'ID taken out of M'COOL. :wink: And this thread was again about over 75 millions pounds of comtaminated US FEED. What can you tell us about that feed Oldtimer or don't you care about how many cattle were infected by this feed? :? Hurry Oldtimer divert again before everyone remembers what the topic really is! :wink:

Fine then Tam-- If Canadian Industry Leaders ( which you've presented yourself and spouse to be on this site in your little Canuck chitchats) don't want to lead and find the answer- then I guess I and other concerned US producers will have to...I thought I would give you a chance to do a positive action rather than all the negative you continually promote blaming everything on the US ( altho I don't hold it against you personally, knowing that growing up in that part of Saskakota has to to be traumatic on a childhood :wink: :lol: )....

Like I said- I've already asked the Congressional people, and USDA- and it will be part of the questions I submit when USDA comes up with another final rule proposal...Then if no answer there always leaves the court action again- which USDA left us to before--which I hate to see-- but it appears to me right now that CFIA and USDA are again not being very open and transparent with what was found in the Canadian investigations......And it appears that no one in Canada cares enough about their industry, their Canadian cattle herd, or the consumer to ask------EH :???:
 

Tam

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Sandhusker said:
Tam, Murgen and I were having a rational and civil conversation. If you're going to participate, please do the same.
Is it my fault your organization can't make a rational statement Sandhusker I was just posting some of their comments followed by more of their comments? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is best one , So if for some reason we did find a case we can stand and look our consumers right in the eye and say, don’t worry we have had these firewalls in place for years, the only country prior to having a case of BSE to have these firewalls in place for so many years. And we did it to make sure if a case was ever found it was a non-issue. followed by If we import cattle and beef from Canada we will putting our herd and consumers in danger!!!!

What happen to the FIREWALLS YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE US HERD AND CONSUMERS FROM US BSE AND WHY CAN'T THEY PROTECT FROM IMPORTED SANDHUSKER?????? :shock:
 
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Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
Tam, Murgen and I were having a rational and civil conversation. If you're going to participate, please do the same.
Is it my fault your organization can't make a rational statement Sandhusker I was just posting some of their comments followed by more of their comments? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is best one , So if for some reason we did find a case we can stand and look our consumers right in the eye and say, don’t worry we have had these firewalls in place for years, the only country prior to having a case of BSE to have these firewalls in place for so many years. And we did it to make sure if a case was ever found it was a non-issue. followed by If we import cattle and beef from Canada we will putting our herd and consumers in danger!!!!

What happen to the FIREWALLS YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE US HERD AND CONSUMERS FROM US BSE AND WHY CAN'T THEY PROTECT FROM IMPORTED SANDHUSKER?????? :shock:

Tam- Does SSGA ever make any statement-- or do they just take the dues and run :???: :wink: :lol: I guess you can never be challenged if you say or do NOTHING- eh Tam :???: :lol:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Murgen - then you answer me the question as to why after several of the investigations ( #7-#8, or was it 8-9 , 9-10 whatever?, I lost track on how many Canada now has :wink: ) CFIA released a statement saying at least 2 cases were tracked to a contracted trucking firm that had not properly cleaned their trucks and had provided feed to several feed mills- with no further info- but then released a statement that could be taken as something to the effect that there could be inumerable diseased cattle all over the western provinces- but then said nothing else... Then the Manitoba cow was found...

Tam and none of the industry leaders seem to care enough to ask- but this sure doesn't give me feelings of safe (or safer) beef :wink: :???:
Oldtimer you are jumping to conclusions AGAIN :roll: , what I said was I wasn't going to tell you until you start answering our questions, so I doubt you will ever know where whether I asked the CFIA. as you will never have proof to where your cases were born thanks to R-CALF getting M'ID taken out of M'COOL. :wink: And this thread was again about over 75 millions pounds of comtaminated US FEED. What can you tell us about that feed Oldtimer or don't you care about how many cattle were infected by this feed? :? Hurry Oldtimer divert again before everyone remembers what the topic really is! :wink:

Fine then Tam-- If Canadian Industry Leaders ( which you've presented yourself and spouse to be on this site in your little Canuck chitchats) don't want to lead and find the answer- then I guess I and other concerned US producers will have to...I thought I would give you a chance to do a positive action rather than all the negative you continually promote blaming everything on the US ( altho I don't hold it against you personally, knowing that growing up in that part of Saskakota has to to be traumatic on a childhood :wink: :lol: )....

Like I said- I've already asked the Congressional people, and USDA- and it will be part of the questions I submit when USDA comes up with another final rule proposal...Then if no answer there always leaves the court action again- which USDA left us to before--which I hate to see-- but it appears to me right now that CFIA and USDA are again not being very open and transparent with what was found in the Canadian investigations......And it appears that no one in Canada cares enough about their industry, their Canadian cattle herd, or the consumer to ask------EH :???:

NICE DIVERSION AGAIN OLDTIMER, But I'm surprized you of all people would call your precious MONTANA , Saskatoda and think growing up in MONTANA would be traumatic on a childhood. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

I guess the USDA is really being transparent in their US INVESTIGATIONS aren't they? :wink: I guess if the Canadians want to know where this 75 MILLION POUNDS OF CONTAMINATED US FEED went we will have to look into it ourselves as you seem to be to busy looking in our trucking company that failed to clean out their trucks. :roll: Divert again Oldtimer :wink:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
Tam, Murgen and I were having a rational and civil conversation. If you're going to participate, please do the same.
Is it my fault your organization can't make a rational statement Sandhusker I was just posting some of their comments followed by more of their comments? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Here is best one , So if for some reason we did find a case we can stand and look our consumers right in the eye and say, don’t worry we have had these firewalls in place for years, the only country prior to having a case of BSE to have these firewalls in place for so many years. And we did it to make sure if a case was ever found it was a non-issue. followed by If we import cattle and beef from Canada we will putting our herd and consumers in danger!!!!

What happen to the FIREWALLS YOU HAVE IN PLACE TO PROTECT THE US HERD AND CONSUMERS FROM US BSE AND WHY CAN'T THEY PROTECT FROM IMPORTED SANDHUSKER?????? :shock:

Tam- Does SSGA ever make any statement-- or do they just take the dues and run :???: :wink: :lol: I guess you can never be challenged if you say or do NOTHING- eh Tam :???: :lol:

Diverting to the SSGA now. :roll: Stay with us Oldtimer THE TOPIC IS THESE R-CALF HYPOCRITICAL CONTRADICTING STATEMENTS. Do us a favor try prove that R-CALF didn't make these statements, that will go alot farther than bad mouthing another organization that has nothing to do with this conversation !!!! :wink:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer you are jumping to conclusions AGAIN :roll: , what I said was I wasn't going to tell you until you start answering our questions, so I doubt you will ever know where whether I asked the CFIA. as you will never have proof to where your cases were born thanks to R-CALF getting M'ID taken out of M'COOL. :wink: And this thread was again about over 75 millions pounds of comtaminated US FEED. What can you tell us about that feed Oldtimer or don't you care about how many cattle were infected by this feed? :? Hurry Oldtimer divert again before everyone remembers what the topic really is! :wink:

Fine then Tam-- If Canadian Industry Leaders ( which you've presented yourself and spouse to be on this site in your little Canuck chitchats) don't want to lead and find the answer- then I guess I and other concerned US producers will have to...I thought I would give you a chance to do a positive action rather than all the negative you continually promote blaming everything on the US ( altho I don't hold it against you personally, knowing that growing up in that part of Saskakota has to to be traumatic on a childhood :wink: :lol: )....

Like I said- I've already asked the Congressional people, and USDA- and it will be part of the questions I submit when USDA comes up with another final rule proposal...Then if no answer there always leaves the court action again- which USDA left us to before--which I hate to see-- but it appears to me right now that CFIA and USDA are again not being very open and transparent with what was found in the Canadian investigations......And it appears that no one in Canada cares enough about their industry, their Canadian cattle herd, or the consumer to ask------EH :???:

NICE DIVERSION AGAIN OLDTIMER, But I'm surprized you of all people would call your precious MONTANA , Saskatoda and think growing up in MONTANA would be traumatic on a childhood. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tam I used to work with several guys that were raised in your little corner of America- and teased them constantly about not knowing if they were Montanan, Saskatoonie or Dakotan-- One I knew had 3 (or 4) different badges and used to just switch them when he crossed a line...But those days are long gone....

I guess the USDA is really being transparent in their US INVESTIGATIONS aren't they? :wink: I guess if the Canadians want to know where this 75 MILLION POUNDS OF CONTAMINATED US FEED went we will have to look into it ourselves as you seem to be to busy looking in our trucking company that failed to clean out their trucks. :roll: Divert again Oldtimer :wink:

Again Tam- I don't see why this should worry you.... You don't care if we have A BILLION POUNDS OF CONTAMINATED US FEED-- you've already agreed to take anything the US sends you- be it from Mexico, Uruaguay, Timbuktu, wherever as long as it passes thru the US and gets that precious USDA inspected stamp....Just so you can get the US to let you in on that gravy train of passing off imported beef as US product...

We on the other had down here- would like to protect our US cattle herd and US industry- and since we don't really need Canadian beef would like to have guarantees that it is safe...

But it appears that the Canadian Industry Leaders cannot provide those guarantees :???:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam- WE DON'T NEED YOUR OLD COWS-- we're doing plumb fine without your old cows and beef-- we did plumb fine without ANY Canuck beef...Its you that needs the US shirtails, and again want to pass off Canadian beef as US beef, so its marketable-- Thats why the US should have and does have the right to require Canada to raise their standards above and beyond the call of duty- AND PROVE IT....Elseways just send it somewhere else-- EH Canadian Tam...

Oldtimer didn't you just tell us the your local butcher cut the "Canadian stamp" off the beef he was selling. So who was really trying to pass our good Canadian beef off as US beef? the Canadian industry that are the ones that put the stamp on or your local butcher that cut the stamp off??????? :?

And You and R-CALF seem to like OIE quotes how about this one.
The importing country cannot be more trade restrictive than necessary to achieve the desired national level of protection, and that it’s measures must not be different from those applied to products within the domestic market
When will you be raising your standards above ours so you can legally force us to to raise ours? :? :roll:
I guess Japan should have told your government send your beef somewhere else if you don't like our rules. Gee I wonder how fast the US Congress would have slapped trade sanctions on Japan????? :shock: Has R-CALF ever spoke up and voiced their opinions on the threatened trade sanctions??? I guess I'll have to find out for myself as you are to concerned about our trucking company to look into your PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam- WE DON'T NEED YOUR OLD COWS-- we're doing plumb fine without your old cows and beef-- we did plumb fine without ANY Canuck beef...Its you that needs the US shirtails, and again want to pass off Canadian beef as US beef, so its marketable-- Thats why the US should have and does have the right to require Canada to raise their standards above and beyond the call of duty- AND PROVE IT....Elseways just send it somewhere else-- EH Canadian Tam...

Oldtimer didn't you just tell us the your local butcher cut the "Canadian stamp" off the beef he was selling. So who was really trying to pass our good Canadian beef off as US beef? the Canadian industry that are the ones that put the stamp on or your local butcher that cut the stamp off??????? :?

And You and R-CALF seem to like OIE quotes how about this one.
The importing country cannot be more trade restrictive than necessary to achieve the desired national level of protection, and that it’s measures must not be different from those applied to products within the domestic market
When will you be raising your standards above ours so you can legally force us to to raise ours? :? :roll:
I guess Japan should have told your government send your beef somewhere else if you don't like our rules. Gee I wonder how fast the US Congress would have slapped trade sanctions on Japan????? :shock: Has R-CALF ever spoke up and voiced their opinions on the threatened trade sanctions??? I guess I'll have to find out for myself as you are to concerned about our trucking company to look into your PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!

TRULY A CANADIAN INDUSTRY LEADER- SEE NOTHING-SAY NOTHING-KNOW NOTHING....New Canadian Saskatchewan Stockgrowers Association motto (fits CCA & ABP, too) --DON'T ASK- DON'T TELL- JUST FIND US THE TEAT AGAIN.... :wink: :lol:

Only old Randy Kaiser and Cam of BIG-C have shown that Canadians have any backbone left when dealing with the Packer bought government agencies.....

When I talk to the retired teachers group again- I'll tell them that according to the Canadian Industry Leaders they have no idea of the spread of the disease- or for how long- or why they think it could be thru out all the cows in the western provinces-- AND THEY DON"T CARE TO ASK, AND/OR THINK THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL US AMERICAN CONSUMERS ANYTHING-- that about sums it up- Eh Tam :???:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Fine then Tam-- If Canadian Industry Leaders ( which you've presented yourself and spouse to be on this site in your little Canuck chitchats) don't want to lead and find the answer- then I guess I and other concerned US producers will have to...I thought I would give you a chance to do a positive action rather than all the negative you continually promote blaming everything on the US ( altho I don't hold it against you personally, knowing that growing up in that part of Saskakota has to to be traumatic on a childhood :wink: :lol: )....

Like I said- I've already asked the Congressional people, and USDA- and it will be part of the questions I submit when USDA comes up with another final rule proposal...Then if no answer there always leaves the court action again- which USDA left us to before--which I hate to see-- but it appears to me right now that CFIA and USDA are again not being very open and transparent with what was found in the Canadian investigations......And it appears that no one in Canada cares enough about their industry, their Canadian cattle herd, or the consumer to ask------EH :???:

NICE DIVERSION AGAIN OLDTIMER, But I'm surprized you of all people would call your precious MONTANA , Saskatoda and think growing up in MONTANA would be traumatic on a childhood. :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Tam I used to work with several guys that were raised in your little corner of America- and teased them constantly about not knowing if they were Montanan, Saskatoonie or Dakotan-- One I knew had 3 (or 4) different badges and used to just switch them when he crossed a line...But those days are long gone....

I guess the USDA is really being transparent in their US INVESTIGATIONS aren't they? :wink: I guess if the Canadians want to know where this 75 MILLION POUNDS OF CONTAMINATED US FEED went we will have to look into it ourselves as you seem to be to busy looking in our trucking company that failed to clean out their trucks. :roll: Divert again Oldtimer :wink:

Again Tam- I don't see why this should worry you.... You don't care if we have A BILLION POUNDS OF CONTAMINATED US FEED-- you've already agreed to take anything the US sends you- be it from Mexico, Uruaguay, Timbuktu, wherever as long as it passes thru the US and gets that precious USDA inspected stamp....Just so you can get the US to let you in on that gravy train of passing off imported beef as US product...

We on the other had down here- would like to protect our US cattle herd and US industry- and since we don't really need Canadian beef would like to have guarantees that it is safe...

But it appears that the Canadian Industry Leaders cannot provide those guarantees :???:

Any excuse is better than no excuse for name calling. I grew up in Outlook, in Sheridan Country in Northeastern MONTANA just south of the US border. See Oldtimer I'm not confused of where I grew up so please keep your name calling for someone that doesn't take offence to it. And By the Way I live in Canada and I am a Canadian NOT A CANUCK.
How dare you say I don't Care if you have Billions of pounds I care more than you seem to as I want to know where that Contaminated feed was shipped and what consumed it unlike you. I also want to know where your BSE cattle were born and how they contracted BSE but you don't seem to care about that either!!!!!! As for taking your beef I'm not sure we should until we know how your strain is spread and you implement firewalls to stop the spread, LIKE CANADA HAS.
 
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I grew up in Outlook, in Sheridan Country in Northeastern MONTANA just south of the US border.

Tam- I knew that because 2 of the guys that I worked with for years - and retired about the same time I did, but still live here with different jobs( ones now the State Parole officer- the other is the state Gambling Investigator) were also Blue Jays at one time....One of them spent a couple of years up there, off and on, with me when I was in charge of working undercover guys out of that area....Learned a lot about that country- almost as much the end of the earth as Alzada :roll: :wink: :lol: :lol: ....

I want to know where that Contaminated feed was shipped and what consumed it unlike you. I also want to know where your BSE cattle were born and how they contracted BSE but you don't seem to care about that either!!!!!!

Tam- You care where the US feed went- but don't care what happened to all the Canadian feed- that has led to 4 POST feedban cattle- one that was only 4 years old :???: And don't start riding the high horse about where this or that cow came from- unless you know where that Manitoba cow came from that CFIA says is untraceable....Right now- I don't think Canada is in the drivers seat to demand anything....

As for taking your beef I'm not sure we should until we know how your strain is spread and you implement firewalls to stop the spread, LIKE CANADA HAS.

I agree Tam- except now it is "our" strain, since they announced the Manitoba cow was "atypical" too...But until both governments start giving some straight answers- and they start using science as a guideline over economics- I think they should shut everything down...Surprised me that Canada took anything we wanted to send them without a squawk- and no Canadian cattle organizations even whimpered- except they still haven't dropped all the Blue tongue restrictions :wink:
 

S.S.A.P.

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Oldtimer wrote:
But until both governments start giving some straight answers- and they start using science as a guideline over economics- I think they should shut everything down...

Are you suggesting a gigantic bonfire in the US? And every other BSE country in the world. After all that is what you suggested Canada do.
 
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S.S.A.P. said:
Oldtimer wrote:
But until both governments start giving some straight answers- and they start using science as a guideline over economics- I think they should shut everything down...

Are you suggesting a gigantic bonfire in the US? And every other BSE country in the world. After all that is what you suggested Canada do.

Nope- Just that we don't import beef over 20 months old- or live cattle from any known BSE risk country-- which I would think they would want to do the same- until their is some answers- especially the big ones as to why is Canadas feedban not working and why are they showing up with such a much more potent infection?
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam- WE DON'T NEED YOUR OLD COWS-- we're doing plumb fine without your old cows and beef-- we did plumb fine without ANY Canuck beef...Its you that needs the US shirtails, and again want to pass off Canadian beef as US beef, so its marketable-- Thats why the US should have and does have the right to require Canada to raise their standards above and beyond the call of duty- AND PROVE IT....Elseways just send it somewhere else-- EH Canadian Tam...

Oldtimer didn't you just tell us the your local butcher cut the "Canadian stamp" off the beef he was selling. So who was really trying to pass our good Canadian beef off as US beef? the Canadian industry that are the ones that put the stamp on or your local butcher that cut the stamp off??????? :?

And You and R-CALF seem to like OIE quotes how about this one.
The importing country cannot be more trade restrictive than necessary to achieve the desired national level of protection, and that it’s measures must not be different from those applied to products within the domestic market
When will you be raising your standards above ours so you can legally force us to to raise ours? :? :roll:
I guess Japan should have told your government send your beef somewhere else if you don't like our rules. Gee I wonder how fast the US Congress would have slapped trade sanctions on Japan????? :shock: Has R-CALF ever spoke up and voiced their opinions on the threatened trade sanctions??? I guess I'll have to find out for myself as you are to concerned about our trucking company to look into your PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!

TRULY A CANADIAN INDUSTRY LEADER- SEE NOTHING-SAY NOTHING-KNOW NOTHING....New Canadian Saskatchewan Stockgrowers Association motto (fits CCA & ABP, too) --DON'T ASK- DON'T TELL- JUST FIND US THE TEAT AGAIN.... :wink: :lol:

Only old Randy Kaiser and Cam of BIG-C have shown that Canadians have any backbone left when dealing with the Packer bought government agencies.....

When I talk to the retired teachers group again- I'll tell them that according to the Canadian Industry Leaders they have no idea of the spread of the disease- or for how long- or why they think it could be thru out all the cows in the western provinces-- AND THEY DON"T CARE TO ASK, AND/OR THINK THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL US AMERICAN CONSUMERS ANYTHING-- that about sums it up- Eh Tam :???:

Jumping to Conclusions again Oldtimer? :roll: While you are at it tell those retired Teachers that the Canadian problem may have be spread by a trucking company that failed to clean their trucks out between loads BUT also tell, the US problem may be caused by over 75 million pounds of CONTAMINATED US FEED coming out of two US states. And the US industry leaders don't want to know what it was fed to and the US industry doesn't seem to care that the US has BSE in their cattle only that Canadian with as non compliant trucking company. Add to that that the US industry seems to shoot shovel and shut up about their BSE and that the firewalls that the US has are ones that stop the spread of the Canadian strain of BSE but not the Strain the US has> How about telling those retired teachers that Oldtimer and see what label they will want on the Beef they eat. :wink:
 
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Tam said:
Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Oldtimer didn't you just tell us the your local butcher cut the "Canadian stamp" off the beef he was selling. So who was really trying to pass our good Canadian beef off as US beef? the Canadian industry that are the ones that put the stamp on or your local butcher that cut the stamp off??????? :?

And You and R-CALF seem to like OIE quotes how about this one.
When will you be raising your standards above ours so you can legally force us to to raise ours? :? :roll:
I guess Japan should have told your government send your beef somewhere else if you don't like our rules. Gee I wonder how fast the US Congress would have slapped trade sanctions on Japan????? :shock: Has R-CALF ever spoke up and voiced their opinions on the threatened trade sanctions??? I guess I'll have to find out for myself as you are to concerned about our trucking company to look into your PROBLEMS!!!!!!!!

TRULY A CANADIAN INDUSTRY LEADER- SEE NOTHING-SAY NOTHING-KNOW NOTHING....New Canadian Saskatchewan Stockgrowers Association motto (fits CCA & ABP, too) --DON'T ASK- DON'T TELL- JUST FIND US THE TEAT AGAIN.... :wink: :lol:

Only old Randy Kaiser and Cam of BIG-C have shown that Canadians have any backbone left when dealing with the Packer bought government agencies.....

When I talk to the retired teachers group again- I'll tell them that according to the Canadian Industry Leaders they have no idea of the spread of the disease- or for how long- or why they think it could be thru out all the cows in the western provinces-- AND THEY DON"T CARE TO ASK, AND/OR THINK THEY DON'T NEED TO TELL US AMERICAN CONSUMERS ANYTHING-- that about sums it up- Eh Tam :???:

Jumping to Conclusions again Oldtimer? :roll: While you are at it tell those retired Teachers that the Canadian problem may have be spread by a trucking company that failed to clean their trucks out between loads BUT also tell, the US problem may be caused by over 75 million pounds of CONTAMINATED US FEED coming out of two US states. And the US industry leaders don't want to know what it was fed to and the US industry doesn't seem to care that the US has BSE in their cattle only that Canadian with as non compliant trucking company. Add to that that the US industry seems to shoot shovel and shut up about their BSE and that the firewalls that the US has are ones that stop the spread of the Canadian strain of BSE but not the Strain the US has> How about telling those retired teachers that Oldtimer and see what label they will want on the Beef they eat. :wink:

Tam- I will do that...And I'll tell them that Canada now has found BOTH known strains- and none of the Canadian producers seem concerned enough to even question their government or CFIA about why their feedban is not working- or why the CFIA announced there will be more diseased cattle found thruout all the western provinces....And that Canadian producers are still pushing to get the US border opened so they can send all their cattle/beef thruout the country- and passed off as US beef so its marketable-- even tho they have no ideas of how, where, why, when on much of these disease questions...

Dollars taking precedence over Disease control or eradication :( :mad:

I don't think I need to ask which label they would then want on their beef :lol:

I think the whole safety concern issue is pretty well summed up by the fact that we down here knew the Manitoba cow was "atypical" several days ago- (the R-CALF smoke signals ? ) when Canucks apparently still had no idea :roll: Tam, maybe you need to find or join a "concerned" cattlemans organization that works to stay on top of the issues... :wink: :lol:
 

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