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U.S. Cattlemen Benefited From Closed Canadian Border

Mike

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Have seen a few of you argue this point. Just thought I would throw it out there.


U.S. producers benefit from Canadian beef ban: Statistics Canada
Last Updated: Thursday, December 4, 2003 | 2:16 PM ET
CBC News
U.S. beef exporters evidently moved quickly to fill the void created in world markets when countries closed their borders to Canadian meat following the discovery of a single case of mad cow disease in Alberta last May.
Statistics Canada said Wednesday that U.S. exports of beef jumped by 17 per cent following the ban on Canadian beef exports.

"This increase more than filled the gap on the world markets resulting from this ban," Statistics Canada said in a report.

Most of the increase went to markets where Canadian and U.S. exporters traditionally compete: Mexico, Japan and South Korea.

Average monthly exports of U.S. beef jumped from $460 million over the first four months of this year to $540 million in June, July and August.

It's a similar situation in the U.S. domestic market, where the country's own producers have benefited from the ban on Canadian products.


About 90 per cent of Canada's beef exports last year went to the U.S. market, the largest importers of beef in the world. But after the border was closed in May, Canadian exports to the U.S. went from April's $288 million to almost zero in June, July and August.

"U.S. imports did not import more from other countries to fill the gap created by the banned Canadian beef," Statistics Canada said.

The outlook for Canadian beef is starting to improve slowly. The U.S. and Mexico have reopened their borders to some Canadian beef.

As of mid-September, Canadian boneless beef from animals younger than 30 months has been allowed into the United States. Live animals and cuts from older animals are still banned, although a U.S. proposal last week could see young live animals begin to cross the border soon.
 

Jason

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Agman had already stated that the US market enjoyed a brief period of highly unusual trade.

Canada was closed up tight from May and the US picked up all the slack in a growing market until December when the Washington case was discovered.

Anytime you close off the biggest importer of a product and gain much of their exports at the same time there will be a benefit. The key point is there were many factors involved all at the same time. Just the closed (to the US) border wasn't the main one.
 

RoperAB

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Oh I agree, trade with Canada is awful. Lets close the border to all Canadian exports to the US includeing oil, gas and electricity.
Dont you guys ever get tired of all this?
 

Sandhusker

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RoperAB said:
Oh I agree, trade with Canada is awful. Lets close the border to all Canadian exports to the US includeing oil, gas and electricity.
Dont you guys ever get tired of all this?

I'm not advocating it, but it would help our trade balance. We're running a sizable deficit post-NAFTA with you. I submit you would be injured worse than us.
 

cowsense

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Sandhusker said:
RoperAB said:
Oh I agree, trade with Canada is awful. Lets close the border to all Canadian exports to the US includeing oil, gas and electricity.
Dont you guys ever get tired of all this?

I'm not advocating it, but it would help our trade balance. We're running a sizable deficit post-NAFTA with you. I submit you would be injured worse than us.

Sandhusker; The last figures I seen posted were that the US runs a $11 billion trade surplus in ag product and produce with Canada. At the present time large volumes of American meat products are being shipped into Eastern Canadian markets. Trade is a two way street and there are trade agreements that must be honoured by both sides! As a banker you should realize that our dollar has strengthened in relationship to the US currency along with high freight costs and Canadian exports of all types have sharply decreased as a result.
 

cowzilla

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Sandhusker; Just trying to help your Trade Deficit problems. Sent 2 of my Case IH tractors to town for some much needed tuneups. Gonna cost a few dollars to get those Parts from down south :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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cowsense said:
Sandhusker said:
RoperAB said:
Oh I agree, trade with Canada is awful. Lets close the border to all Canadian exports to the US includeing oil, gas and electricity.
Dont you guys ever get tired of all this?

I'm not advocating it, but it would help our trade balance. We're running a sizable deficit post-NAFTA with you. I submit you would be injured worse than us.

Sandhusker; The last figures I seen posted were that the US runs a $11 billion trade surplus in ag product and produce with Canada. At the present time large volumes of American meat products are being shipped into Eastern Canadian markets. Trade is a two way street and there are trade agreements that must be honoured by both sides! As a banker you should realize that our dollar has strengthened in relationship to the US currency along with high freight costs and Canadian exports of all types have sharply decreased as a result.

Trade deficit I spoke of was all trade. I thought when I said, "I'm not advocating", folks would understand that I wasn't saying to close the border. I was just pointing out that more stuff comes South than goes North, nothing more.
 

RoperAB

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Sandhusker said:
RoperAB said:
Oh I agree, trade with Canada is awful. Lets close the border to all Canadian exports to the US includeing oil, gas and electricity.
Dont you guys ever get tired of all this?

I'm not advocating it, but it would help our trade balance. We're running a sizable deficit post-NAFTA with you. I submit you would be injured worse than us.

Yeah your right, nobody else in the world wants oil or energy except the States :lol:
No offence but its been months since I was on Bull Session and it seems like everybody is talking about the same old stuff :lol:
Look we are allies and tradeing partners because we have he same interests and it helps both countries. Quit trying to look for ways to screw us :lol: :wink:
Merry Christmas :D
 

Sandhusker

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Roper, "No offence but its been months since I was on Bull Session and it seems like everybody is talking about the same old stuff
Look we are allies and tradeing partners because we have he same interests and it helps both countries. Quit trying to look for ways to screw us Merry Christmas "

Throw out another topic and we'll chew the fat.
 

RoperAB

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Sandhusker
Rod and I are talking about diesel conversions and truck drivetrains on Everything Else :lol:
Come down to the Hunting section and tell us about your Savage/Simmons combination and what you did with it this fall :wink:
 

Sandhusker

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RoperAB said:
Sandhusker
Rod and I are talking about diesel conversions and truck drivetrains on Everything Else :lol:
Come down to the Hunting section and tell us about your Savage/Simmons combination and what you did with it this fall :wink:

I didn't even know there was a hunting/sports board! I made a few Husker posts. Haven't shot at anything other than paper with the .25 - didn't draw a goat permit and can't get too excited about deer. I need to get out and try to plug a coyote.
 
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