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Ukraine dealing with PNEUMONIC PLAGUE

hypocritexposer

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Very hard to get updated reports coming out of the Ukraine right now. Ukraine/Polish border has been closed, over 200,000 reported infected in last 96 hours! Virus is mimicing 1918 Spanish flu, 22% mortality, early autopsy’s show severe bleeding in the lungs! Attack’s respiratory system.

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE has an acute course than other forms, over and is accompanied by a very high mortality rate. The incubation period of primary pneumonic plague rarely exceeds more than 1-4 days. It begins, as a rule, suddenly - with shivering, fever, headache, myalgia, weakness, nausea. The symptoms of pneumonia - cough with phlegm, chest pain, shortness of breath - usually appear on the second day of the disease. Blood spitting, growing respiratory disorders, heart failure, respiratory failure, shock are being observed. In primary pneumonic plague phlegm usually is watery or mucinous, foamy, with blood or visibly bloody. A secondary pneumonic plague occurs as interstitial pneumonia. Phlegm is scanty and more dense and viscous than in primary pulmonary plague. It is believed that in this regard, patients are less contagious.

Government website
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=23630&cat=dis&lang=eng
 

hypocritexposer

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Ukraine H1N1 Deaths and Hospitalizations Spike Higher
Recombinomics Commentary 21:54
November 2, 2009

255516 Influenza/ARI
15810 Hospital Admissions
235 Intensive Care
70 deaths

The above numbers reflect the latest government update on cases in the Ukraine. They are dramatically higher than those reported in the past few days and raise concerns that the death toll will increase significantly over the next several days.

Some wire service reports and comments from WHO have downplayed these numbers, noting that the death rate for Ukraine is similar to other countries in Europe. However, the deaths in the other countries accumulated over the entire pandemic flu season, while the deaths in the Ukraine were in the past few weeks, with most cases reported in the past few days.

About 5% of patients admitted with H1N1 infections have died in other countries, so that rate in the patients currently hospitalized would increase the deaths in Ukraine 10 fold, which would be markedly higher than any other European country. Moreover, the vast majority of the cases, hospitalizations, ICU admissions, and deaths are in three Oblasts in western Ukraine. Lviv, Ternopil, and Ivano-Frankivsk (see map).

This concentration of H1N1, including serious and fatal cases, raises concerns that the virus in this region has changed. Samples have been sent to London for analysis and prompt release of that data would be useful.

http://www.recombinomics.com/News/11020902/Ukraine_Spike.html
 
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hypocritexposer said:
Very hard to get updated reports coming out of the Ukraine right now. Ukraine/Polish border has been closed, over 200,000 reported infected in last 96 hours! Virus is mimicing 1918 Spanish flu, 22% mortality, early autopsy’s show severe bleeding in the lungs! Attack’s respiratory system.

PNEUMONIC PLAGUE has an acute course than other forms, over and is accompanied by a very high mortality rate. The incubation period of primary pneumonic plague rarely exceeds more than 1-4 days. It begins, as a rule, suddenly - with shivering, fever, headache, myalgia, weakness, nausea. The symptoms of pneumonia - cough with phlegm, chest pain, shortness of breath - usually appear on the second day of the disease. Blood spitting, growing respiratory disorders, heart failure, respiratory failure, shock are being observed. In primary pneumonic plague phlegm usually is watery or mucinous, foamy, with blood or visibly bloody. A secondary pneumonic plague occurs as interstitial pneumonia. Phlegm is scanty and more dense and viscous than in primary pulmonary plague. It is believed that in this regard, patients are less contagious.

Government website
http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/woalert_read.php?cid=23630&cat=dis&lang=eng

You and I had a discussion about H1N1 back in August. Here is some of the discussion but not all:

hypocritexposer wrote:
Hurley, the swine flu is a minor issue, isn't it? It is less serious than the seasonal flu, that's what we are being told.

Except it seems that the government is making preparations for it. These preparations have already been in place for years, but they seem to be openly ramping up preparations.

Take it for what it is. Take the shot, if you choose, or if they make it mandatory like the UN is suggesting, take it then.

The US/Canada have about 1/2 the doses they would need to vaccinate the whole population.

They are saying older people are not vulnerable, so you will probably not get one, if it is mandatory, and the Government sets the priorities.

You can take this as fearmongering or whatever you want, but if the Government is making plans and preparations, shouldn't you also?


Hypo my understanding of the swine flu or the bird flu that was happening is that as time goes on and the flu spreads it morphs itself in to something that is worse each time. You know Old Gerald Ford got us all vaccinated for swine flu during his term. I do not know if it will be dangerous or not could be and then again might not be I am not an expert on it, I have to have faith our government is telling us the truth. After all these people that have studied it should be smarter than I on it. On something that I have no knowledge of I have to turn to someone else. When I have a cow that comes up with something that I or my vet has no knowledge of we turn to Texas A & M for the expert knowledge to help with the matter. Do you have any cows if you do who do you turn to for advise on matters you have no knowledge of.
 
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hypocritexposer said:
So what's the question Hurley?

No I do not have any cows anymore.

You posted the article about the plague in the ukraine and the testing to see if the H1N1 had changed to something worse. I only pointed out that in the August discussion when you was thinking the H1N1 would not be very bad. I stated that I thought the H1N1 could morph into something stronger as it spread.
 

hypocritexposer

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hurleyjd said:
hypocritexposer said:
So what's the question Hurley?

No I do not have any cows anymore.

You posted the article about the plague in the ukraine and the testing to see if the H1N1 had changed to something worse. I only pointed out that in the August discussion when you was thinking the H1N1 would not be very bad. I stated that I thought the H1N1 could morph into something stronger as it spread.

Yes, we talked about it mutating. Same as the seasonal flu that mutates annually.

But today's vaccination would not necessarily protect you against a mutated form.

There is more to the Ukraine story though.



Feb. 24 (Bloomberg) -- Baxter International Inc. in Austria unintentionally contaminated samples with the bird flu virus that were used in laboratories in three neighboring countries, raising concern about the potential spread of the deadly disease.

The contamination was discovered when ferrets at a laboratory in the Czech Republic died after being inoculated with vaccine made from the samples early this month. The material came from Deerfield, Illinois-based Baxter, which reported the incident to the Austrian Ministry of Health, Sigrid Rosenberger, a ministry spokeswoman, said today in a telephone interview.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aTo3LbhcA75I


Moshe claimed that Baxter's laboratory in the Ukraine out of all places was creating this biological weapon. All of this came out in the beginning of August, which is more than 2 months before the situation that is currently unfolding. For Moshe to correctly name the country where a new epidemic would be unleashed, requires either inside information, or an incredible coincidence as anyone with a basic knowledge of statistics can confirm for himself.


However, the internet community was very skeptical of the true reasons behidn this man's arrest. Comments on the Huffington Post website immediately began pouring in about an unreported side to this story, namely that Joseph Moshe was a Mossad Agent specialized in biological warfare who called into a radio show to warn people about a biological weapn that was being made by Baxter international that would be spread through vaccine and would cause a plague upon it's release.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/08/14/man-suspected-of-making-t_n_259330.html

Moshe's biomed profile appears to confirm his position as a microbiologist. Furthermore, this page with Baxter's contact information for it's Ukraine office confirms that Baxter has a presence in the Ukraine.
http://www.biomedexperts.com/Profile.bme/78637/Moshe_Bar-Joseph
 

hypocritexposer

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I believe these deaths are those that have died after being hospitalized. Estimates of deaths outside the hospital run about 3000, every 3 or 4 days.


Situation Update No. 26
On 07.11.2009 at 14:09 GMT+2

The number of infected people in the Ukraine shot up to 764000 since about two days ago. They have all fallen ill with the "flu and acute respiratory infections", 34000 have been hospitalised claims Olexander Bilovol. The flu AND respiratory deaths jumped up to 109 people and only 14 of those linked to swine flu according to health officials. The World Health Organisation however said that more people could be infected with h1n1. It is still unclear whether most people are infected with h1n1 or the viral pneumonic plague or as some claim it is the same thing (although the one is a virus and the other one a bacteria). So far evidence shows that this is a pneumonic plague mostly as well as h1n1 infecting people at the same time. the WHO is still to confirm whether the it is a normal h1n1 or if it has mutated into a different h1n1 than seen in the US and Uk like the president of the Ukraine claimed this week.
 
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