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Steve

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there were several mistakes made by the dispatcher and the police...

"apparently" the kid was being stupid.. and was ordered to drop the gun he had in his waste band and raise his hands..

he was shot when he "complied" by pulling the gun out of his waste band to drop it...




A police officer who shot a 12-year-old dead in a Cleveland park late last month had been judged unfit for police service two years earlier by a small suburban force where he worked for six months, according to records released on Wednesday.

Officer Timothy Loehmann, who killed Tamir Rice on 22 November, was specifically faulted for breaking down emotionally while handling a live gun. During a training episode at a firing range, Loehmann was reported to be “distracted and weepy” and incommunicative. “His handgun performance was dismal,” deputy chief Jim Polak of the Independence, Ohio, police department wrote in an internal memo.

In recommending Loehmann’s dismissal, Polak listed what he said were other performance shortcomings, including Loehmann’s having left his gun unlocked, lied to supervisors and failed to follow orders.

“Due to this dangerous loss of composure during live range training and his inability to manage this personal stress, I do not believe Ptl Loehmann shows the maturity needed to work in our employment,” Polak concludes. “For these reasons, I am recommending he be released from the employment of the city of Independence. I do not believe time, nor training, will be able to change or correct these deficiencies.”

The memo concludes with a recommendation that Loehmann be “released from the employment of the City of Independence”. Less than a week later, on 3 December 2012, Loehmann resigned.

Loehmann shot the boy dead within two seconds of a police car driven by Garmack arriving to the park and pulling to a stop within feet of the child. In the video, released by Cleveland police a week ago, Loehmann appears to fire his gun as he opens the door to leave the police car.

Loehmann shot Rice within two seconds of his squad car pulling up to the park pavilion.

to read more about the alleged police coverup and discrepancies in the case.. "
Not knowing that a camera recorded the entire incident, the police told what appear to be at least five lies about what happened.

1. Police said that Tamir Rice was seated at a table with other people.

2. Police said that as they pulled up, they saw Tamir Rice grab the gun and put it in his waistband.

3. Police said they got out of the car and told Tamir Rice three times to put his hands up but he refused.

4. Police said that Tamir Rice then reached into his waistband and pulled out the gun, and was then shot and killed by Officer Timothy Loehmann.

5. Timothy Loehmann was described as a rookie.

1. Tamir Rice as not seated at a table with other people.

2. Tamir Rice does not appear to grab the gun and put it in his waistband.

3. Police shot and killed Tamir in less than two seconds and could not have told him to put his hands up three times.

4. Tamir Rice absolutely does not pull the air gun out of his waistband and brandish it in any way. This fact is so crucial.

5. Timothy Loehmann was not a rookie, but had been an officer for over two years.

either way a child is dead...
 

Mike

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Scary stuff, Steve.............

I have been posting articles about trigger happy policemen for some time now.

There's new mentality going on in younger cops that makes them want to part of the "TactiCool" bunch. Whatever that means............

SWAT team members think they are snipers. etc. etc. etc.

I think it has a lot to do with the "Militarization" of police that is all the craze.
 

Mike

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hypocritexposer said:
It's about a sense of control and dependence...the same as we see from all government.

Does that mean we need to bring the "Old Time Cowboy Sheriffs" back? :lol:
 

W.T

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Mike said:
hypocritexposer said:
It's about a sense of control and dependence...the same as we see from all government.

Does that mean we need to bring the "Old Time Cowboy Sheriffs" back? :lol:

Well............ Maybe not all of them. :lol: :lol:
 

Larrry

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Remember when we had peace officers, now its LAW ENFORCEMENT

Remember when it was to "protect and serve"

Remember when it was to enforce the "intent of the law" rather than the "letter of the law"

Remember when cops were your friends and neighbors who would do their patrols walking and visiting with people. Now its in a car with their radar gun pointed at the next ticket(revenue) prospect. Now cops keep their distance and wont get close to people.

Remember when cops would stop you for an infraction and theyd visit with you instead of interrogate you

Remember when cops looked to help you even if it meant a ticket, now its just trying to figure what you did wrong. After all everyone did something wrong they just have to figure it out.

Remember when if a cop would would do something wrong and his fellow officers wouldn't build a wall around him. Right is right, wrong is wrong even if it comes to standing up to wrong doing of another police officer.

The cops are making it so easy for people to disrespect them, yet they can't see what they are doing. I wish we could go back and pay them to protect and serve the citizens. Then they would have their respect. We need that


A little story I was stopped for a burnt out tail light. I had just washed my pickup. So he comes up and tells me. When he was getting ready to leave I handed him a rag and asked him to wipe off his hand smudge he left on the corner of the bed. Now if that wasnt a deer ion the headlight look. Another thing I do is if they start asking questions that arent necessary I just tell them its not important after all I did't ask them if the had sex with their wife last night. :lol: :lol:
 

Steve

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The cops are making it so easy for people to disrespect them, yet they can't see what they are doing

Over the years I have seen good police and bad cops.. the good ones by far out number the bad ones.. but those few bad ones sure make it hard to defend all of them..

It is sad when police look for the worst in folk instead of looking at the good in them..
 

kolanuraven

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I question the part in the video where he races into the greenspace near the kid.

I thought the police were always trained to handle situations from a distance?


The video shows that the police has either roadway or parking lot area just a bit farther from the kid but still well with in distance.

By getting so close the cops endangered themselves too.


REAL looking toy guns are also the problem. In those split seconds it would be hard to tell if one of those were real or not.
 

Brad S

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Steve is correct, good cops outnumber bad cops by a wide margine. The good cops need to police themselves and forsake the thin blue line.

Mikes point about militarization in the protect and serve community should be observed by everyone. It's must be confusing rectifying protect and serve with combat targets.
 
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