Actually when I first saw him he was about five feet from the front bumper of the truck lol. A buddy from Ontario is out hunting right now and were seeing some hog whitetails-I passed a 150 Wednesday at about twenty yards-there's a 200 inch typical where he runs so were trying to get my buddy on him. I think we've seen 20 or 30 over 150 the last few days-my friend thinks he's in whitetail heaven-maybe he's right. The bucks are still in bachelor groups so pretty good hunting. There going to lull before the rut fairly quick.