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US President Barack Obama on Thursday accepted an apology.

nonothing

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WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President Barack Obama on Thursday accepted an apology from the Republican lawmaker who won instant notoriety for shouting "you lie!" during his prime-time health care speech.



"I'm a big believer that we all make mistakes. He apologized quickly and without equivocation, and I'm appreciative of that," Obama told reporters as he held a cabinet meeting a day after Representative Joe Wilson's shock outburst.


The president, who used his speech to skewer "bogus claims" from "partisan" critics and warned those who distort the plan he will "call you out," also said he hoped the incident would cool the debate's superheated political rhetoric.


"I hope that some of the fever breaks a little bit," said Obama, who has at times been portrayed by some opponents of the health care overhaul as a Nazi bent on having government officials put elderly Americans to death.


Ambushed by reporters outside his office, Wilson said his eruption during the president's address to a rare joint session of Congress had been "spontaneous" and said party leaders had requested his swift apology.


"Last night I heard from the leadership that they wanted me to contact the White House and state that my statements were inappropriate. I did," he said in brief remarks that conveyed no particular remorse for the breach in protocol.


The South Carolina seemed to be paying a political price for his universally condemned remarks, as his likely Democratic rival in the 2010 midterm, Rob Miller, had drawn upwards of 300,000 dollars in new donations after the speech.


But US House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, visibly shocked and angry at Wilson's outburst, signaled that there was no formal punishment and indicated that she viewed discussions of the incident as time better spent on health care.


"As far as I'm concerned, the episode was unfortunate. Mr Wilson has apologized. It's time for us to talk about health care and not Mr Wilson," the California Democrat told reporters.


"The president did the right thing; just continued on from it and didn't give it any more attention than it deserved," said Pelosi, who called Wilson's outburst "stunning" given the formal setting.


At the White House, Obama used the fallout to make a plea for civility, urging that the divisive debate proceed "without vitriol, without name-calling, without the assumption of the worst in other people's motives."


Wilson, who conveyed his apology by telephone late Wednesday to White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel, said he was "very grateful" to hear an appeal for "a civil discussion about the health care issues."


But the number two Republican in the US Senate, Jon Kyl of Arizona, condemned Obama's rhetorical broadsides at Republicans in the speech and questioned the president's stated willingness to work with his critics.


"Bottom line: I thought the speech was partisan, uninformative, disingenuous, and not likely to encourage those who have honest disagreements with him to be able to work toward some kind of common solution," he said.


Kyl acknowledged his own words could "seem harsh," adding: "I am ready to drop that at this moment to engage in real bipartisan conversations, if we can do that."


For his part, Obama sought to play up what he has described as an open-door policy for Republicans, telling a reporter who asked whether he would agree to speak with Wilson: "Oh, I talk to everybody."
 

hypocritexposer

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of course he accepted an apology.

He probably remembers when he was in the front row heckling Bush about Social Security reform. And applauding becasue it did not pass the year before either.

It's the death threats that are coming from the left now that will cause for a sleepless night for Wilson.
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
of course he accepted an apology.

He probably remembers when he was in the front row heckling Bush about Social Security reform. And applauding becasue it did not pass the year before either.

It's the death threats that are coming from the left now that will cause for a sleepless night for Wilson.

The death threats from the left? You jerk! You would like nothing better than to see the United States explode, wouldn't you? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Alice
 

hypocritexposer

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alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
of course he accepted an apology.

He probably remembers when he was in the front row heckling Bush about Social Security reform. And applauding becasue it did not pass the year before either.

It's the death threats that are coming from the left now that will cause for a sleepless night for Wilson.

The death threats from the left? You jerk! You would like nothing better than to see the United States explode, wouldn't you? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Alice

Wilson is receiving death threats for calling Obama liar.

He's being made out to be a racist, and people are passing around his phone number and threatening him. Much the same as what happened to protesters from Town Hall meetings.

What does that have to do with me?

I would never want to see anything bad happen.

That's why you need to speak up as a bipartisan citizen group, even if it is to groups like SEIU,ACORN, etc.

But when you label people as Right Wing Extremist, Domestic Terrorists etc, it's hard to backtrack.

Labeling, Demonizing, Vilifying and then threatening is a Alinsky model that can have potentially dangerous consequences.

Who's lead are these people following anyway?
 

alice

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hypocritexposer said:
alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
of course he accepted an apology.

He probably remembers when he was in the front row heckling Bush about Social Security reform. And applauding becasue it did not pass the year before either.

It's the death threats that are coming from the left now that will cause for a sleepless night for Wilson.

The death threats from the left? You jerk! You would like nothing better than to see the United States explode, wouldn't you? :mad: :mad: :mad:

Alice

Wilson is receiving death threats for calling Obama liar.

He's being made out to be a racist, and people are passing around his phone number and threatening him. Much the same as what happened to protesters from Town Hall meetings.

What does that have to do with me?

I would never want to see anything bad happen.

That's why you need to speak up as a bipartisan citizen group, even if it is to groups like SEIU,ACORN, etc.

But when you label people as Right Wing Extremist, Domestic Terrorists etc, it's hard to backtrack.

Labeling, Demonizing, Vilifying and then threatening is a Alinsky model that can have potentially dangerous consequences.

Who's lead are these people following anyway?

Where did you come up with Joe Wilson getting death threats?

Alice
 

MoGal

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Sandhusker said:
When will Obama apologize for lying?

Yup and I want an apology from Obama to all Americans for taking away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...... the young people in America should be angry.
 
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MoGal said:
Sandhusker said:
When will Obama apologize for lying?

Yup and I want an apology from Obama to all Americans for taking away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...... the young people in America should be angry.

What liberty did you lose MoGal?
 

hypocritexposer

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alice said:
hypocritexposer said:
the internet

Care to provide a link? I looked but didn't find anything.

Alice

I won't provide the link, just because some of them are pretty harsh, with lots of language, but I will post a sreenshot of 3 posts that are on the milder side, all the same, but you get the point.


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Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
When will Obama apologize for lying?

When will he apologize for calling others liars when they are the ones telling the truth while he lies.

He didn't lie-- there is nothing in any of the proposed health care insurance plans I've saw to provide insurance coverage to illegal immigrants....
You need to read them..
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
Sandhusker said:
When will Obama apologize for lying?

When will he apologize for calling others liars when they are the ones telling the truth while he lies.

He didn't lie-- there is nothing in any of the proposed health care insurance plans I've saw to provide insurance coverage to illegal immigrants....
You need to read them..

Horseshit - he lied. Illegal aliens will not be denied any care because providers will not ask of their of the citizenship - the Democrats blocked Republican efforts to put that in the bill. Obama knows damn well that there will be nothing stopping them from getting care, yet he makes that comment.... what a lying sack of ......
 
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Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
MoGal said:
Yup and I want an apology from Obama to all Americans for taking away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...... the young people in America should be angry.

What liberty did you lose MoGal?

How about the liberty to NOT buy health insurance?

I think that is even an option... If you can show your banker billions in your assets can cover any catastrophic event occuring to you or your family- it sounds like you can get a waiver there too... Self Insured- if you will not be a drain on the rest of the community/country....
 

Sandhusker

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Oldtimer said:
Sandhusker said:
Oldtimer said:
What liberty did you lose MoGal?

How about the liberty to NOT buy health insurance?

I think that is even an option... If you can show your banker billions in your assets can cover any catastrophic event occuring to you or your family- it sounds like you can get a waiver there too... Self Insured- if you will not be a drain on the rest of the community/country....

IF
 

MoGal

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Oldtimer said:
MoGal said:
Sandhusker said:
When will Obama apologize for lying?

Yup and I want an apology from Obama to all Americans for taking away their right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness...... the young people in America should be angry.

What liberty did you lose MoGal?

OT - for one thing, censorship of the internet has already started (all in the namesake of terrorism of course), liberty is also the right to bear arms, Obama is over Homeland Security and when Homeland Security calls someone a right wing extremist because they are against abortion, against the United Nations, and read the Bible.

here is the definition from the dictionary:
lib·er·ty (lĭb'ər-tē)
n. pl. lib·er·ties

1.
1. The condition of being free from restriction or control.
2. The right and power to act, believe, or express oneself in a manner of one's own choosing.
3. The condition of being physically and legally free from confinement, servitude, or forced labor. See Synonyms at freedom.
4. A breach or overstepping of propriety or social convention. Often used in the plural.
5. A statement, attitude, or action not warranted by conditions or actualities: a historical novel that takes liberties with chronology.
6. An unwarranted risk; a chance: took foolish liberties on the ski slopes.
2. Freedom from unjust or undue governmental control.
3. A right or immunity to engage in certain actions without control or interference: the liberties protected by the Bill of Rights.
4.
1. A breach or overstepping of propriety or social convention. Often used in the plural.
2. A statement, attitude, or action not warranted by conditions or actualities: a historical novel that takes liberties with chronology.
3. An unwarranted risk; a chance: took foolish liberties on the ski slopes.
5. A period, usually short, during which a sailor is authorized to go ashore.


[Middle English liberte, from Old French, from Latin lībertās, from līber, free; see leudh- in Indo-European roots.]
The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fourth Edition
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Word Origin & History

liberty
c.1375, from O.Fr. liberté "freedom," from L. libertatem (nom. libertas) "freedom, condition of a freeman," from liber "free" (see liberal)

"The spirit of liberty is the spirit which is not too sure it is right." [Learned Hand, 1944]

Nautical sense of "leave of absence" is from 1758. To take liberties "go beyond the bounds of propriety" is from 1625. Sense of "privileges" led to sense of "a person's private land" (1455), which yielded sense in 18c. England and America of "a district within a county but having its own justice of the peace," and also "a district adjacent to a city but under its municipal jurisdiction" (e.g. Northern Liberties of Philadelphia).
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Legal Dictionary

Main Entry: lib·er·ty
Function: noun
Inflected Form: plural -ties
1 a : freedom from external (as governmental) restraint, compulsion, or interference in engaging in the pursuits or conduct of one's choice to the extent that they are lawful and not harmful to others b : enjoyment of the rights enjoyed by others in a society free of arbitrary or unreasonable limitation or interference
2 : freedom from physical restraint
3 : freedom from subjection to the will of another claiming ownership or services
4 : RIGHT liberty secured by the Fourteenth Amendment —W. Railroad LaFave and J. H. Israel>
Merriam-Webster's Dictionary of Law, © 1996 Merriam-Webster, Inc.
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Idioms & Phrases

liberty

see at liberty; take the liberty of.
The American Heritage® Dictionary of Idioms by Christine Ammer.
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