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US risk catagory

What OIE risk catagory does the US belong in?

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Tam

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I would like to know what risk catagory the US producers think they are in.
Now in light of the BSE in the US native herd we all have to agree that they are not BSE FREE or Provisionally Free so I'm leaving those out.
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
I would like to know what risk catagory the US producers think they are in.
Now in light of the BSE in the US native herd we all have to agree that they are not BSE FREE or Provisionally Free so I'm leaving those out.

Who cares? Even OIE admits that no one follows their guidelines anymore- kind of another United Nations- worthless......
 
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Anonymous

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Tam said:
I would like to know what risk catagory the US producers think they are in.
Now in light of the BSE in the US native herd we all have to agree that they are not BSE FREE or Provisionally Free so I'm leaving those out.

Tam-Actually none of your choices fit anymore after the OIE guidelines were changed in May, 2005 from 5 classifications to 3 at USDA's pushing: negligible, controlled, and undetermined... And all these are considered "nonbinding" on member countries....

http://www.allbusiness.com/periodicals/article/442882-1.html
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam said:
I would like to know what risk catagory the US producers think they are in.
Now in light of the BSE in the US native herd we all have to agree that they are not BSE FREE or Provisionally Free so I'm leaving those out.

Who cares? Even OIE admits that no one follows their guidelines anymore- kind of another United Nations- worthless......

R-CALF has used the argument that Canada does not qualify for minimal risk and therefore should not be able to export beef. So why shouldn't everyone including you hypocrite R-CALFERs care if the US qualifies as you are exporting your beef OLDTIMER.

I think the voters should know this before voting. According to the Declaration of Gary A Weaver D.V.M Ph.D. Esq in support of motion for summary judgement in the R-CALF USDA case

Canada has not met the criteria of the moderate risk because we have failed to permanently identifying, controlling the movement, and when slaughtered or at death. completely destroying ALL the cattle born in the same herd as, and within 12 months of , the birth herd of (referred to as birth cohorts). each of the four indigenous BSE cases detected in Canada. The administrative records reveals that Canada has only traced and destroyed "the majority of surviving cattle that were birth cohorts of the May 2003 and December 2003 cases 0f Canadian origin"------

Now just how many birth cohort has the USDA found and completely destroyed in the Alabama and Texas cases?????? and I find it funny that Gary figures we don't qualify because of the Dec. 2003 case as it was in the US and the USDA was also unable to find the birth cohorts that were imported with her :roll: So what risk catagory does the US sit in if we don't qualify even for moderate risk.

And we should ALL CARE YOU ARE EXPORTING YOUR BEEF OLDTIMER
 
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Anonymous

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Tam-The last I could find, the US hadn't applied for classification under OIE- instead they did the risk analysis study that was released last month that said "The results of this analysis suggest that the number of infected cattle in the United States is very low."

Maybe now they are going to go to OIE for a classification....

And Tam- Would Canada meet the moderate classification NOW with the 3 POST feedban positive cattle... I believe a requirement was to show an effective feedban had been in place... :???:
 

Tam

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Oldtimer said:
Tam-The last I could find, the US hadn't applied for classification under OIE- instead they did the risk analysis study that was released last month that said "The results of this analysis suggest that the number of infected cattle in the United States is very low."

Maybe now they are going to go to OIE for a classification....

And Tam- Would Canada meet the moderate classification NOW with the 3 POST feedban positive cattle... I believe a requirement was to show an effective feedban had been in place...

Will you still be concerned about post feed ban animals once the US finds one? :wink: or will all your concern melt away as fast as an ice cube on a hot day like it did when you found your first Pre feed ban animal and had two investigations which did not find the birth cohorts so they could be completely destroyed. Who cares if Canada is moderate risk it doesn't seem to matter to you that the US isn't by your mans criteria.
 
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Anonymous

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I'll bet the only way Big Muddy gets in the last word is if he whispers it 3 hours after you been asleep--SHEEEESH :roll: :lol: :lol:
 

flounder

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BSE GBR ASSESSMENTS



EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of the United States of America (USA)
Last updated: 19 July 2005
Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)

Report
Summary
Summary of the Scientific Report

The European Food Safety Authority and its Scientific Expert Working Group on the Assessment of the Geographical Bovine Spongiform Encephalopathy (BSE) Risk (GBR) were asked by the European Commission (EC) to provide an up-to-date scientific report on the GBR in the United States of America, i.e. the likelihood of the presence of one or more cattle being infected with BSE, pre-clinically as well as clinically, in USA. This scientific report addresses the GBR of USA as assessed in 2004 based on data covering the period 1980-2003.

The BSE agent was probably imported into USA and could have reached domestic cattle in the middle of the eighties. These cattle imported in the mid eighties could have been rendered in the late eighties and therefore led to an internal challenge in the early nineties. It is possible that imported meat and bone meal (MBM) into the USA reached domestic cattle and leads to an internal challenge in the early nineties.

A processing risk developed in the late 80s/early 90s when cattle imports from BSE risk countries were slaughtered or died and were processed (partly) into feed, together with some imports of MBM. This risk continued to exist, and grew significantly in the mid 90’s when domestic cattle, infected by imported MBM, reached processing. Given the low stability of the system, the risk increased over the years with continued imports of cattle and MBM from BSE risk countries.

EFSA concludes that the current GBR level of USA is III, i.e. it is likely but not confirmed that domestic cattle are (clinically or pre-clinically) infected with the BSE-agent. As long as there are no significant changes in rendering or feeding, the stability remains extremely/very unstable. Thus, the probability of cattle to be (pre-clinically or clinically) infected with the BSE-agent persistently increases.







Publication date: 20 August 2004



http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/573_it.html


http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/573/sr03_biohaz02_usa_report_summary_en1.pdf


http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/573/sr03_biohaz02_usa_report_v2_en1.pdf





EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of Mexico

Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)


[Last updated 08 September 2004]




http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/565/sr04_biohaz02_mexico_report_v2_en1.pdf






EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of the United States of America (USA)

Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)


[Last updated 08 September 2004]




http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/573/sr03_biohaz02_usa_report_v2_en1.pdf






EFSA Scientific Report on the Assessment of the Geographical BSE-Risk (GBR) of Canada

Adopted July 2004 (Question N° EFSA-Q-2003-083)


[Last updated 08 September 2004]




http://www.efsa.eu.int/science/tse_assessments/gbr_assessments/564/sr02_biohaz02_canada_report_v2_en1.pdf



THE big difference here is the blatant cover-up the USDA tried with there infamous june 2004 enhanced bse surveillance program. OIE is a big part of the problem, they folded to GWs 'industrial friendly' ways when they went along the the BSE MRR policy and did away with abiding by EFSA BSE GBR risk assessments. it was nothing more than a legal tool to trade all strains of TSE globally, and believe me, the countries following through with this will be the ones to suffer the most. they will become infected with the different strains of TSE that have been circulating in the USA for decades. you see, the USA is most unique, we have the most documented TSE in the most documented species than any other country, all of which have been rendered and fed back to humans, and animals for human consumption. you see, this is like what the UK did with BSE when they exported there poison all over the globe, but GW just made it legal with his BSE MRR policy. ...TSS
 

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